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by Salus Maior » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:49 pm
by FNU » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:50 pm
Immortan Khan wrote:FNU wrote:No dog is born aggressive, it comes from the way that it's owner treats them.
This is simply not true at all. This is just a cope from obsessive dog owner culture that cannot grasp that different breeds differ in their baseline levels of aggression along with other traits. Training can only go so far in preventing aggression and even well trained dogs have turned on their owners or on others.
by Vikanias » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:04 pm
by Ethel mermania » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:19 pm
by Novsiveltz » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:29 pm
by Kadan Land » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:40 pm
by Kadan Land » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:42 pm
Are you sure? Dogs have the ability to swim causing them for a good coast guard pet.Ethel mermania wrote:As a cat, I am for banning dogs from all jobs.
by Free Ravensburg » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:14 pm
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by Ethel mermania » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:32 pm
by Big Bad Blue » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:10 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:44 pm
Big Bad Blue wrote:Because no dog has ever shot an unarmed young Black man.
Defund the police; replace cops with dogs.
The more I learn about cops the more I appreciate dogs.
by Hemakral » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:49 pm
by Totalitarian Missouri » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:50 pm
Big Bad Blue wrote:Because no dog has ever shot an unarmed young Black man.
Defund the police; replace cops with dogs.
The more I learn about cops the more I appreciate dogs.
by Hemakral » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:54 pm
Totalitarian Missouri wrote:Anyway, I think mauling Criminals to death is pretty neat.
by Totalitarian Missouri » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:59 pm
by American Legionaries » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:45 pm
Hemakral wrote:Using dogs in law enforcement is kind of like training a baby to disarm bombs- it's cheap, and they may enjoy doing it, but it's also unethical, as they can't give consent and don't understand the risks involved in what they're doing.
by Dogmeat » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:23 am
American Legionaries wrote:Hemakral wrote:Using dogs in law enforcement is kind of like training a baby to disarm bombs- it's cheap, and they may enjoy doing it, but it's also unethical, as they can't give consent and don't understand the risks involved in what they're doing.
Consent and an understanding of risks isn't necessary on account of dogs being, y'know, dogs.
by Salus Maior » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:01 am
Dogmeat wrote:American Legionaries wrote:
Consent and an understanding of risks isn't necessary on account of dogs being, y'know, dogs.
Speaking on behalf of all good boys, we would accept the risk anyway. Because it's who we are.
But that's not really the point. It's not unethical because the dog would refuse. It's unethical because the dog will never refuse. There are many things that you can coerce a dog to do that you probably shouldn't. Not because the dog minds, but because it lowers you.
by Iwassoclose » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:24 pm
Salus Maior wrote:So long as they’re used responsibly I don’t see why not.
by Salus Maior » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:14 pm
by Iwassoclose » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:22 pm
by Neutraligon » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:46 pm
Dogmeat wrote:American Legionaries wrote:
Consent and an understanding of risks isn't necessary on account of dogs being, y'know, dogs.
Speaking on behalf of all good boys, we would accept the risk anyway. Because it's who we are.
But that's not really the point. It's not unethical because the dog would refuse. It's unethical because the dog will never refuse. There are many things that you can coerce a dog to do that you probably shouldn't. Not because the dog minds, but because it lowers you.
by Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:47 pm
by Neutraligon » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:49 pm
by Dogmeat » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:59 am
Salus Maior wrote:Dogmeat wrote:Speaking on behalf of all good boys, we would accept the risk anyway. Because it's who we are.
But that's not really the point. It's not unethical because the dog would refuse. It's unethical because the dog will never refuse. There are many things that you can coerce a dog to do that you probably shouldn't. Not because the dog minds, but because it lowers you.
That's not a thing in ethics. Consent is consent, and if there's consent it's not coercion.
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