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by The Holy Therns » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:04 pm
Gallade wrote:Love, cake, wine and banter. No greater meaning to life (〜^∇^)〜
Ethel mermania wrote:to therns is to transend the pettiness of the field of play into the field of dreams.
by Ifreann » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:42 pm
Police dogs are expensive to train, and a police officer trained in dog handling is not going to shoot the dog that could have taken thousands of dollars to train, and would require forcing them to desk duty because they're shot their partner.
It's the same reason that, despite what Hollywood movies would like you to believe, cops aren't trained to use their police cars as demolition derby machines.
If a police dog is shot by another cop it's usually by an officer who doesn't have that training and think that the suspect is about to escape.
Or they think the police dog is simply a suspects dog, or the police dog mistakes the other officer as the suspect.
But from what I've seen, most of the time if a police dog is injured or killed in the line of duty it's either by a suspect, or by a cop that isn't their handler.
The few exceptions I see are if the police dog turns on the handler, which happens and usually reveals that said person isn't fit to be a handler in the first place.
Page wrote:Look, I'm an anarchist and honestly most of the time I'm rooting for the criminals but honestly, you can't call it abuse, to the dogs it's just a game. Dogs need stimulation , police dogs might be happier than the dogs of people who just laze around the house all day.
by Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:28 pm
Greater Cesnica wrote:Saiwania wrote:Why dogs are used comes down to 3 main reasons.
1. Dogs have an inherently superior sense of smell and hearing than humans. Trained right, dogs can track a scent over long distances or detect what people won't. Which includes sabotaging any infiltration attempts most of the time. A would be commando likely would need to kill the dog to continue or retreat if barking will be heard or alert everyone else.
2. Dogs are inherently faster than the fastest person running. It has 4 legs and it's futile to try to outrun a canine's chase instinct generally speaking.
3. Humans as the dominant species of this world consider ourselves the masters of our environment or top of the food chain. Since when as any moral qualms or ethics ever stopped people from using lower tier animals as tools or help when this is viable?
1. This is applicable to the military, and shouldn't be for civilian law enforcement.
2. Still applicable more to the military.
3. My arguments against dogs in law enforcement are based on their ineffectiveness when it comes to detection.
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by FNU » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:31 pm
by Senkaku » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:35 pm
Iwassoclose wrote:What a terrible idea to have an animal that can be conditioned to alert the police to anything they want under the guise of police work or attacking a person.
by Pasong Tirad » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:24 pm
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:11 am
by Stellar Colonies » Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:14 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:I think it would be better if all dogs were banned.
They (whether used by the police or anyone else) could chase and bite people. Also, there’s a risk of dog droppings being out of control like in my neighborhood. Dog ownership has always been a act of endangerment.
I can understand the argument that dogs are useful for drug detection and other aspects of law enforcement, but here I think there’s a greater public interest towards not allowing their use.
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I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
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by The Holy Therns » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:04 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:I think it would be better if all dogs were banned.
They (whether used by the police or anyone else) could chase and bite people. Also, there’s a risk of dog droppings being out of control like in my neighborhood. Dog ownership has always been a act of endangerment.
I can understand the argument that dogs are useful for drug detection and other aspects of law enforcement, but here I think there’s a greater public interest towards not allowing their use.
Gallade wrote:Love, cake, wine and banter. No greater meaning to life (〜^∇^)〜
Ethel mermania wrote:to therns is to transend the pettiness of the field of play into the field of dreams.
by Stellar Colonies » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:08 am
The Holy Therns wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:I think it would be better if all dogs were banned.
They (whether used by the police or anyone else) could chase and bite people. Also, there’s a risk of dog droppings being out of control like in my neighborhood. Dog ownership has always been a act of endangerment.
I can understand the argument that dogs are useful for drug detection and other aspects of law enforcement, but here I think there’s a greater public interest towards not allowing their use.
Oooh, there's a blast from the past.
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:29 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:I think it would be better if all dogs were banned.
They (whether used by the police or anyone else) could chase and bite people. Also, there’s a risk of dog droppings being out of control like in my neighborhood. Dog ownership has always been a act of endangerment.
I can understand the argument that dogs are useful for drug detection and other aspects of law enforcement, but here I think there’s a greater public interest towards not allowing their use.
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:59 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:I think it would be better if all dogs were banned.
They (whether used by the police or anyone else) could chase and bite people. Also, there’s a risk of dog droppings being out of control like in my neighborhood. Dog ownership has always been a act of endangerment.
I can understand the argument that dogs are useful for drug detection and other aspects of law enforcement, but here I think there’s a greater public interest towards not allowing their use.
by Kermit T Frog » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:13 am
by Narland » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:23 am
by FNU » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:38 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:I think it would be better if all dogs were banned.
They (whether used by the police or anyone else) could chase and bite people. Also, there’s a risk of dog droppings being out of control like in my neighborhood. Dog ownership has always been a act of endangerment.
I can understand the argument that dogs are useful for drug detection and other aspects of law enforcement, but here I think there’s a greater public interest towards not allowing their use.
by Narland » Wed Dec 01, 2021 6:45 am
FNU wrote:No dog is born aggressive...
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by Theodores Tomfooleries » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:57 pm
by Immortan Khan » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:05 pm
FNU wrote:No dog is born aggressive, it comes from the way that it's owner treats them.
by Vikanias » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:08 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:I think it would be better if all dogs were banned.
They (whether used by the police or anyone else) could chase and bite people. Also, there’s a risk of dog droppings being out of control like in my neighborhood. Dog ownership has always been a act of endangerment.
I can understand the argument that dogs are useful for drug detection and other aspects of law enforcement, but here I think there’s a greater public interest towards not allowing their use.
by Saiwania » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:26 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Every other animal we had to like build fences around or 'break'...'cept for the cats. The cats just moved in like they owned the place and since they purr and watching them chase shit is adorable as long as you're not the one being chased we just started feeding 'em and cleaning up their poop. We'd already been doing it for the dogs.
You don't do your oldest friend like that.
by Ifreann » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:43 pm
Vikanias wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:I think it would be better if all dogs were banned.
They (whether used by the police or anyone else) could chase and bite people. Also, there’s a risk of dog droppings being out of control like in my neighborhood. Dog ownership has always been a act of endangerment.
I can understand the argument that dogs are useful for drug detection and other aspects of law enforcement, but here I think there’s a greater public interest towards not allowing their use.
What are you smoking?
But I need to know, are we banning dogs from police and military use? Or straight up banning them from being owned by humans ever again? If you think this you must’ve lived a bad life without dogs
by Salus Maior » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:47 pm
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