Why I Care

[Picairn]

I don't see how liberalism is religious in any way

I'm all out of statements of the obvious today.

In this context, it should be obvious that both are overriding, monopolistic cultural forces.

Liberalism is an ideology.

[Latvijas Otra Republika]

Euro identity isn’t a thing. You can be from the continent of Europe but it’s neither a cultural or ethnic background.

So weird.

This is just factually untrue. The most obvious example here is the existence of the EU, and the monoculture it is in the process of seeding into its territories. The fact that we have someone with #iamEUropean in their signature chiming to signal against the existence of a Euro-monoculture illustrates some point about how that culture interprets the fact of its own existence, but it also demonstrates that it clearly exists.

Prior to this, the white monoculture was "Christendom." If you ask someone who is deeply into white identity politics whether or not Greeks are part of the club, and whether or not Turks are part of the club, the answer you will get - in light of the very short genetic distance between these two - highlights that their instinctive consideration of where the borders on "whiteness" are, are ultimately drawn where the old civilizational borders were drawn, when the Euro-monoculture was called Christendom.

Those borders also lined up pretty well with what was Rome and Byzantium. The only difference in territory now, is that the English found more islands upon which to be English. It is still the same peoples in the same places, aside from the addition of significant overseas territories placing the same people in new places.

Presently, the Euro-monoculture is split between remnant Christianity, and its successor Judeo-Christian ideology, Liberalism. These are both originally and distinctively white modes of thought and being, and clearly separate these formerly Christian, formerly Roman-imperial peoples from the rest of the world as effectively as those earlier distinctions did. Notably, all of these peoples are collectivized under one imperial power, NATO, with the exception of the Russians and adjacent peoples, which are simply a continuation of the East-West schism within former Rome / former Christendom.

I am still waiting for OP to come back from sleep, and get around to making an actionable point based off of this observation.

That's just brand identity or a political position in favour of the E.U and not a monoculture, you can set up a Martian cross-national union and claim that you're a Martian but it won't be true. The most modern example of this would be the USSR, where no Soviet monoculture was achieved so the Government resorted to Russification/homogenisation.
Cultures, ethnicities and languages require many generations to truly take form or change shape - NS signatures mean nothing.

[Kaczynskisatva]

OP, functionally you share 99.9% of your genes with the rest of humanity. The other 0.1% is skin, hair, eye color, or predisposition to diseases. This is because we all have common ancestors from the group of Homo Sapiens that migrated out of Africa 70,000 years ago.

And it's most likely your white skin owes its origin to Middle Eastern farmers, because Stone Age Europeans were black. https://phys.org/news/2015-06-ancient-d ... -skin.html

Picairn, functionally you share 99% of your genes with chimpanzees and bonobos. The other 1% is skin, hair, eye color, or predisposition to diseases. This is because we all have common ancestors from the group of Simians that bla bla number of years ago.

Pre-Stone Age simians were white.

/argument

Let's just wait for OP to explain why he cares.

[Kaczynskisatva]

Liberalism is an ideology.

So was Christianity.

/argument

That's just brand identity or a political position in favour of

So was Christianity.

/argument

I am now running at negative balance of obvious explanations for the day, and must hybernate for OP, or someone, to offer an actionable point here.

[Herador]

Liberalism is an ideology.

So was Christianity.

/argument

That's just brand identity or a political position in favour of

So was Christianity.

/argument

I am now running at negative balance of obvious explanations for the day, and must hybernate for OP, or someone, to offer an actionable point here.

You're going to be waiting a while, then.

[Picairn]

Picairn, functionally you share 99% of your genes with chimpanzees and bonobos. The other 1% is skin, hair, eye color, or predisposition to diseases.

Pre-Stone Age simians were white.

/argument

Why do you have this tendency of using cherry-picked facts to lie? https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/perman ... and-chimps

If human and chimp DNA is 98.8 percent the same, why are we so different? Numbers tell part of the story. Each human cell contains roughly three billion base pairs, or bits of information. Just 1.2 percent of that equals about 35 million differences. Some of these have a big impact, others don't. And even two identical stretches of DNA can work differently--they can be "turned on" in different amounts, in different places or at different times.

Although humans and chimps have many identical genes, they often use them in different ways. A gene's activity, or expression, can be turned up or down like the volume on a radio. So the same gene can be turned up high in humans, but very low in chimps.

The same genes are expressed in the same brain regions in human, chimp and gorilla, but in different amounts. Thousands of differences like these affect brain development and function, and help explain why the human brain is larger and smarter.

The chimpanzee immune system is surprisingly similar to ours--most viruses that cause diseases like AIDS and hepatitis can infect chimpanzees too. But chimps don't get infected by the malaria parasite Plasmodium falciparum, which a mosquito can transmit through its bite into human blood. A small DNA difference makes human red blood cells vulnerable to this parasite, while chimp blood cells are resistant.

https://bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.com/t ... 6962-8.pdf

In early works, divergence of human and chimpanzee genomes was estimated as roughly 1% [6]. This estimate was based on the comparison of protein-coding sequences and didn’t consider non-coding (major) part of DNA. However, the idea of ~ 99% similarity of genomes persisted for a long time, until 2005 when nearly complete initial sequencing results of both human [7] and chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes) [8] genomes became available. It was found that genome differences represented by single nucleotide alterations formed 1.23% of human DNA, whereas larger deletions and insertions constituted ~ 3% of our genome [8].

So was Christianity.

/argument

Wrong. /argument

Edit: Congrats, I gotta give it to you, you keep making dumber takes every time you reply to me. Have you studied evolution?

[Dakini]

White supremacy and white nationalism, however, are stigmatized. Though they're not nearly as stigmatized as they should be.

Not on eastern Europe, sadly

To be fair, half these white supremacist assholes don't count Slavic people or Southern Europeans as "European" (they probably don't count Romanians either even though they're Romance language speakers not Slavic language speakers).

Bruh yes in romanian is "da" pls

And? It's a Romance language by structure and grammar. So what if it has Slavic influences? French has Germanic influences (it's actually the Romance language that diverges the most from Latin iirc) and it's still a Romance language, not a Germanic one. English borrows a fuckton of French and Latin words and it's still a Germanic language.

[The eternal swedish empire]

I'm all out of statements of the obvious today.

In this context, it should be obvious that both are overriding, monopolistic cultural forces.

I still don't see how it is religious

The statement is quite weird in my humble opinion

[Yaak]

I still don't see how it is religious

The statement is quite weird in my humble opinion

No, no, he has a good point.

[The Reformed American Republic]

No it's not. It's absolutely not. In fact, in the EU, identifying as European is a very good thing because it suggests that you're supporting international cooperation.

White supremacy and white nationalism, however, are stigmatized. Though they're not nearly as stigmatized as they should be.

The rise of those in Poland, for example, is rather concerning.

I thought it was just authoritarian Polish nationalism.

[Majo Bolldass]

Picairn, functionally you share 99% of your genes with chimpanzees and bonobos. The other 1% is skin, hair, eye color, or predisposition to diseases. This is because we all have common ancestors from the group of Simians that bla bla number of years ago.

Pre-Stone Age simians were white.

/argument

Let's just wait for OP to explain why he cares.

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle.

[The eternal swedish empire]

The rise of those in Poland, for example, is rather concerning.

I thought it was just authoritarian Polish nationalism.

Yee
The idea of white nationalism in europe is weird because most of europeans are white but don't share a culture
Doesn't matter im happy there are a lot less white nationalists here

[-Astoria-]

Picairn, functionally you share 99% of your genes with chimpanzees and bonobos. The other 1% is skin, hair, eye color, or predisposition to diseases. This is because we all have common ancestors from the group of Simians that bla bla number of years ago.

Pre-Stone Age simians were white.

/argument

Let's just wait for OP to explain why he cares.

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle.

So that means we've (almost) returned to monke.

[Yaak]

I thought it was just authoritarian Polish nationalism.

Yee
The idea of white nationalism in europe is weird because most of europeans are white but don't share a culture
Doesn't matter im happy there are a lot less white nationalists here

At least you don't live in America where every Democrat is a white supremacist.

[Ispravlennaja Tsekovija]

Your thoughts?

huge fan of you and your work, especially this part:

All my girlfriends have been Eura babes. I haven't had the chance of having a boyfriend, yet, but I dream of a cute Euro boy to hold hands with before I have a family with a lucky girl.

keep doing what you're doing - you might be the next great political theorist

[Ifreann]

Your explanation for why you care about European identity seems to mostly be making excuses for joining a white nationalist gang in prison and in general being a white nationalist, and just sort of breezes past how you supposedly like European "music, films, literature and general culture". Like, what the fuck even is European music? Shitloads of music gets made in Europe, of wildly varying style and genre. Both Darude and Lordi have represented Finland in the Eurovision.

[Herador]

Your explanation for why you care about European identity seems to mostly be making excuses for joining a white nationalist gang in prison and in general being a white nationalist, and just sort of breezes past how you supposedly like European "music, films, literature and general culture". Like, what the fuck even is European music? Shitloads of music gets made in Europe, of wildly varying style and genre. Both Darude and Lordi have represented Finland in the Eurovision.

This is European Music. Not an example, this is just it.

[Dakini]

Your explanation for why you care about European identity seems to mostly be making excuses for joining a white nationalist gang in prison and in general being a white nationalist, and just sort of breezes past how you supposedly like European "music, films, literature and general culture". Like, what the fuck even is European music? Shitloads of music gets made in Europe, of wildly varying style and genre. Both Darude and Lordi have represented Finland in the Eurovision.

This is European Music. Not an example, this is just it.

I know the video is called "epic sax guy", but that violin is pretty sweet too.

I also wonder what the OP means by European music. Like, is he listening to just classical music or is he thinking that white people didn't steal rock and roll from black people and forgetting that so many instruments common to "European" music owe their existence to various Asian and African cultures or something (the Mediterranean has been one giant melting pot full of interactions between three different continents since antiquity).

[The Reformed American Republic]

I thought it was just authoritarian Polish nationalism.

Yee
The idea of white nationalism in europe is weird because most of europeans are white but don't share a culture
Doesn't matter im happy there are a lot less white nationalists here

Indeed. I don't think the Poles would welcome me and I'm white. It's a nationalism for Polish people and Polish culture, which is understandable considering the fact that both the Soviets and the Nazis tried to destroy it.

Saying it's white supremacy is an oversimplification at best.

[Lady Victory]

You're just proposing multiculturalism but with certain cultures excluded based on race, the most arbitrary form of designation there is. There is no "European" race any more than there is a "white" race. Why so many people feel the need to develop some kind of affinity with people and cultures they have zero connection to I will never understand.

[Dakini]

Oh wait! I bet this is what the OP means by European music that he loves so much.

(For everyone else who is unfamiliar with Manele)

[Farnhamia]

Yee
The idea of white nationalism in europe is weird because most of europeans are white but don't share a culture
Doesn't matter im happy there are a lot less white nationalists here

At least you don't live in America where every Democrat is a white supremacist.

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[Kaczynskisatva]

I thought it was just authoritarian Polish nationalism.

Yee
The idea of white nationalism in europe is weird because most of europeans are white but don't share a culture
Doesn't matter im happy there are a lot less white nationalists here

Poland, as an overwhelmingly Catholic country, shares a lot of culture with, for example, Italy, on that basis and on other basis of shared history - running up to the present, as both are now client states of the NATO/EU empire and have their metaculture imposed on them.

(One of the greatest crimes of history, really, has been the latinization of the Polish language, which is absolutely confusing and hideous to look at in latin letters - if you would read it in cyrillic, it would suddenly make sense, but as it is now written, it is a cube being forcibly smashed into a circular hole by an angry, retarded child. To read it is like trying to read latinizations of Russian location names on the metro - you find yourself slowly mouthing through them like a child learning to read, but then if you see them in the cyrillic meant to contain them, they shine through like the light of dawn. This is, I assume, the perpetual experience of being Polish, and this observation is in parenthesis because, I think, most people could not relate to it directly, but the common meta-language / alphabetic system is a good example of this common metaculture)

Obviously, these places also have their own local, cultural differences. Even people within official states have different local cultures, the Scots and the English for example, or the Castillians and the Catalonians. These two pairs of cultural groups have differences between them, but they also have a culture in common which is not shared by people outside the club, like Tibetians. If a Polack and an Italian both found themselves in a bar in Beijing surrounded by Chinese people, the odds of them sitting together and chatting are high enough above random to be statistically significant.

I am currently compounding interest on my debt for obvious explanations for today, and I will need a loan from someone. Quick - someone explain something obvious to me.

*** Warned for trolling ***

Trolling who? The Democrats?

It wasn't directed at anyone, it was just a random, pointless hot take. Is it trolling to just throw out random idpol statements, or is it only trolling to troll other users of the forum? If trolling is just inflamming groups at large, then the context of this thread, idpol, is trolling on its own.

[Kubra]

In the context of a dude from the US, "european" always means anglo saxon.
Like yo, these dudes won't even use a whole bottle of wine to make a stew, they won't use *any* wine, can they be trusted?

[Kaczynskisatva]

Not with stew. But, is anyone suggesting that we trust British cuisine, at this point?

I mean - think about it. Who colonizes all of India, and still cannot figure out how to use spices?

Really.

I love white people, I really do - I love all people. But, even the most hardcore white identitarian will not be caught drunk and naked arguing for the preservation of anglo-saxon food. There may be something they will definitely stand on a hill and try to preserve, but it's not that. Some things truly belong in the dustbin of history.