Illegal SC proposals - post them here

[Outer Sparta]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1629226505

War On The United Kingdom
A resolution to express a position on international affairs and obligations.

Category: Declaration

Type: Declare

Proposed by: Of the mitochondria

War with the United Kingdom is the only way to convince the British “people” of their wrongdoings

RL references

[WayNeacTia]

Security Council Proposal
ID: jutsa_1629772257

Declaration Against Fascism

A resolution to express a position on international affairs and obligations.

Category: Declaration
Type: Declare
Proposed by: Jutsa
The Security Council hereby declares fascism is bad.

Approvals: 2 (North-West Commland, Tinhampton)

Fully duplicates SC #358 which has not yet been repealed.

[Sedgistan]

We haven't yet worked out how Duplication applies to Declarations. But that one is a Rule 1b violation anyway - lack of relevant argument.

[WayNeacTia]

We haven't yet worked out how Duplication applies to Declarations. But that one is a Rule 1b violation anyway - lack of relevant argument.

Do declarations require arguments? I thought they were merely a statement on behalf of the World Assembly, akin to a memo.

[Sedgistan]

Roughly speaking, they need to express an opinion (declare something) - which is their operative clause, and they need some reasoning for doing that (relevant argument).

[Mancheseva City]

Security Council Resolution #366 “Liberate New Western Atlantic” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

This is disgusting I do not agree with fascism and anti semitism I say this country shall be destroyed for peace and harmony.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1630599536

Branding

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Security Council Resolution #366 “Liberate New Western Atlantic” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

This is disgusting I do not agree with fascism and anti semitism I say this country shall be destroyed for peace and harmony.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1630599536

Branding

Not a thing in the SC, but it’s R1(a), not from the SC’s point of view.

[Outer Sparta]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1630941255

I believe that there should be a boost in spending for firearms and other weapons to help Law and Regular People to protect themselves.

Reason 1: Fighting fire with Fire is a good idea. If you want to protect yourself, you cant just sit there and do nothing, you will die, boosting firearms production will help common folk and law to defend themselves from criminals and murderers.

Reason 2: It will boost the economy. Manufacturing weapons will help businesses grow, which will put more money into the economy, which will be great for all nations.

Final Reason: It will make people happy. Making people happy can help all types of nations, for example, dictatorships, if you do this, then maybe other nations will trade more. For nations that are free and fair, this will make allies willing to help you more and give foreign aid. Even Anarchy's will be happy, because they have even more freedoms.

Thank you for your time, I hope you take this with consideration.

Not written from SC perspective

[Outer Sparta]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1631311561

Repeal: “Condemn The Black Hawks”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#52

Proposed by: Lardonie

Security Council Resolution #52 “Condemn The Black Hawks” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

These people only wish to keep peace and order in their nations so I wish for these people to gain there dignity back.

Not written from SC perspective once again, I'm also not sure if the no operative clause rule if broken, but there's definitely one rule broken.

[Sincluda]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_view_proposal/id=onionist_randosia_1631671866

Condemn TheCardCollector
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: TheCardCollector

Proposed by: Onionist Randosia

Honorable Delegates of the Security Council,
NOTING that the nation TheCardCollector is the source of at least 150 spamming alts, several of which have been deleted by game moderators, and has, along with alts, regularly posted offensive (to members) comments on The Union of Great Onionist Nations RMB, as well as some other regions,

DISGUSTED at the fact that these travesties and NationStates rule violations have gone mostly unpunished, with moderators having only treated the symptom and not the cause,

ALSO NOTING that the only way to punish these crimes is by the utilization of Condemnations, as TheCardCollector itself has mostly remained clean,

HOPING that this will discourage TheCardCollector from future NationStates rule violations, and will cause victims of its crimes to speak out against it more in the future,

Thus, the Security Council, most august body for the upholding of world peace, condemns TheCardCollector.

Metagaming

[Sedgistan]

Metagaming

General Assembly rule, not a Security Council rule.

[Outer Sparta]

Metagaming

General Assembly rule, not a Security Council rule.

Couldn't it be 3b, which deals with rules violations and moderation?

[Sedgistan]

Yes - it got marked illegal for 2a and 3b.

[Tsaivao]

Commend Europeia
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: Europeia

Proposed by: Jaydenism

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Branding, metagaming, recruitment

[Emodea]

Those are GA rules, me thinks. Doesn't apply to the SC. Except branding, that falls under 4(b).

It also violates 1(a), 1(b), 1(d), 2(a) and 2(b), from what I can see.

[WayNeacTia]

ID: greataz_1632094528

Commend The Pacific

A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation
Nominee: the Pacific
Proposed by: Greataz
The Security Council,

Satisfied that The Pacific over the few years has changed their ways of managing a region, and establishing relations with many important regions again

Excited that The Pacific has been attracting many nations, and most in the region had applied for citizenship on their forums

For the reasons stated above, the Security Council herby commands The Pacific

2(a) and apparently Herby is at it again….

[Sedgistan]

Which part is the 2a violation?

Herby is fine, but "commands" rather than "commends" changes the meaning of the operative clause, making it a 1d violation.

[WayNeacTia]

Which part is the 2a violation?

Herby is fine, but "commands" rather than "commends" changes the meaning of the operative clause, making it a 1d violation.

Are forums allowed to be mentioned now?

[Sedgistan]

Forums have been okay since the Ardchoille days - "forums of power" was the example she gave of why it would be okay to refer to nations meeting on forums.

[Morover]

Security Council Proposal
ID: maxian_free_republic_1632240325

Commend Maxian Free Republic
A resolution to recognize outstanding contribution by a nation or region.

Category: Commendation

Nominee: Maxian Free Republic

Proposed by: Maxian Free Republic

IM DA BOMB IM TNT IM DYNAMITE AND IM GONNA EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!11

Approvals: 0

Status: LEGAL
Status: Lacking Support (requires 54 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 11 hours

Not from the perspective of the World Assembly (1a), No operative clause (1d)

[The North Polish Union]

Security Council Proposal
ID: new_ikesandria_1632485314

Repeal: “Declaration On Hippopotamuses”
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: SC#361

Proposed by: New Ikesandria

Security Council Resolution #361 “Declaration on Hippopotamuses” shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

The World Assembly,

Aware that the targeted legislature has no real security value

Interested in raising the number of unsuccessful hippopotamus legislature attempts to 3

Also Aware that hippos and related animals are large, and do benefit ecology.

This Repeal Hereby,

1. Raises the number of unsuccessful hippo legislature attempts to 3.
2. Establishes that Hippopotamuses can by pygmy, and still be members of the hippopotamus family
3. Hippos can be aggressive toward people and other animals, and does not seek to change that
4. Does nothing to change the fact that hippos are VERY REALLY LARGE
5. Repeals this legislature for no reason other than that it has no real security value, and that it can be repealed for no reason other than that it can be done.
Hereby Repeals SC-361

Approvals: 1 (SainoHind)

Status: LEGAL
Status: Lacking Support (requires 53 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

Seems weird to even have the possibility of legislating within a repeal in the SC, much less see it, but I guess the game has changed over the past decade.

[Emodea]

-snip-

That's a pretty blatant 1(e) violation, at the very least.

[Outer Sparta]

https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1634249962

Condemn Sierra Lyricalia
A resolution to express shock and dismay at a nation or region.

Category: Condemnation

Nominee: Sierra Lyricalia

Proposed by: Asturgien

Understanding the high role of Sierra Lyricalia,

Judging the morality of Sierra Lyricalia based on the behavior shown at general assembly’s proposals,

Knowing that Sierra Lyricalia held illegal the proposals called Health Versus Pornography and Death Penalty Repeal,

Considering the condemnation of the two proposals to be purely occurred for personal preferences,

Wanting to prevent injustices,

Strengthening impartiality and neutrality,

Therefore the Security Council condemns Sierra Lyricalia

Post scriptum: if this proposal does not get illegal, I would simply be amazed of myself.

3a (clearly condemning the target for their GA secretariat duties) and 1a. So no, Asturgien, this and your post scriptum are still, in fact, illegal.

[Dungtoper]

To Have Kids In The Army
A resolution to express a position on international affairs and obligations.

Category: Declaration

Type: Declare

Proposed by: United states of Fyn

we declare that kids need to be in the army kids that 7-15 should join the army we need kids to join the army

Ok, this isn't illegal yet, but this should never be legal, I mean, just looking at it makes me cringe.
He only says that we need kids in the army.
He does not explain why kids need to be in the army and it has no reason to be there including many things that would make it illegal.

[Comfed]

To Have Kids In The Army
A resolution to express a position on international affairs and obligations.

Category: Declaration

Type: Declare

Proposed by: United states of Fyn

we declare that kids need to be in the army kids that 7-15 should join the army we need kids to join the army

Ok, this isn't illegal yet, but this should never be legal, I mean, just looking at it makes me cringe.
He only says that we need kids in the army.
He does not explain why kids need to be in the army and it has no reason to be there including many things that would make it illegal.

It is illegal - not written from an SC perspective, probably among other things.