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by Arvenia » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:11 pm
by Tracian Empire » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:16 pm
by The Cascade and Saint Islands » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:48 pm
by Tracian Empire » Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:49 pm
The Cascade and Saint Islands wrote:Nation Application
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Full Nation Name:The Second Ghassanid Kingdom of The Holy Lands, The East Bank of the Jordan River, An Nafud and Northern Hejaz
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by Wansul » Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:47 pm
Nation Application
Full Nation Name: República Argentina
Short Nation Name: Argentina
National Symbols:
The flag of the República Argentina
Argentinian Naval Jack
The symbol of the rapidly-ascending Justicialist Party of Juan Perón
Capital:
Buenos Aires
Territory:
Argentina
Form of Government:
While nominally a presidential democratic republic, Argentina's recent history has been marred by semi-legal acts of repression against political opposition by military and paramilitary forces. Because of this, the political system has become dominated by cliques of bureaucrats and caudillos, and the pretense of democracy ready to shatter. The Argentine Republic’s democracy is not representative or open, and prone to authoritarian decrees from the government and civil unrest.
The executive branch holds increasing power over the whole government, enforcing their policies directly on provinces rather than through the legislature. Since the coup of 1930, a return to stability has reduced the rate of turnover in the federal government. Slowly, the administration has fought corruption and restored trust, making true public servants out of the ministries. The wishes of generals and bankers are always put over the popular will or election integrity. In summary, Argentina’s government is an autocratic junta, with the facade of a democratic republic.
Head of State: President Agustín Pedro Justo
Head of Government: Vice President Julio A. Roca Jr.
Ideology:
While dabbling in tenets of economic liberalization, the Argentine Republic under Agustín Justo remains a firmly authoritarian state, with socially conservative restrictions.
However, the growing Justicialist Party of Juan Perón has grown more vocal and influential in the government. Espousing strong nationalism against the selling out of the nation to foreign interests and strident support for labour, Perón’s populist chimera is building a bigger ideological presence in the Argentine people and government.
Population: 13,610,000
Military Description: WIP
Tech Tree: Argentine Tech tree
Economic Description: WIP
Goals:
For the government of President Agustín Justo; improving economic growth, infrastructure development, securing better trade rights, and getting recognition for claimed lands(Antarctic claim, the Falkland, South Georgia, and South Sandwich islands)
For Perón’s Justicialist Party; social justice, economic independence, political stabilization, and securing control over their claimed lands
Point of Divergence: 1930
History:
As Argentinian exports, especially beef, sharply declined due to the Great Depression, the political situation in Argentina rapidly fell into disorder. The reform-minded President Yrigoyen was ousted in a coup on September 6 by Army generals and officers. The leader of this coup, the fascist-aligned José Felix Uriburu, was killed on September 8 by a car bomb from an unknown assassin before his inauguration. Aided by the efforts of the then-unknown officer Juan Perón, whose ties with labour and the military let him calm both, order and peace reigned in Buenos Aires long enough for the Army leaders to meet and choose a new President.
The coup’s remaining organizers offered the presidency to the much less nationalist, conservative-liberal, General Agustín Justo, who was inaugurated on September 10, 1930. While nationalist groups grumbled at the loss of their shot at power, they did not have the strength to contest it. Radical student and labour groups opposed the coup, but after unlikely but successful mediation by the officer Juan Perón, a few concessions kept them from violent opposition.
In 1932, Agustín Justo won reelection to the office of President again, in what was an undeniably unlawfully conducted election. Rampant suppression, fraud, and intimidation kept socialist and nationalist candidates from winning, and a media crackdown kept from reporting on marches and petitions from both groups. Now, as the election of 1938 draws near, the cogs of the junta’s political machine begin to turn, as Agustín Justo contemplates running for a third term or handing the reigns of state off to a loyal underling.
In 1933, the Roca-Runciman Treaty, between Agustín Justo’s government and the United Kingdom, secured some relief from the Depression. By giving benefits and special exceptions to British companies, beef exports were able to pick up and investments in Argentina picked up. The promise to only buy British coal and impose no duties especially angered coal miner unions, while the perceived selling out of the country to foreign bankers and interests turned the nationalists from annoyed to angry with the administration of Agustín Justo. While some Senators and establishment officials have pushed privately for changes to Argentina's trade arrangements, President Agustín Justo has not tolerated showing disunity within the cabinet.
That policy led to the dismissal of the once-rising star Juan Perón from the cabinet. His work calming labour from strikes and revolts eventually led to the position of Secretary of Labour in 1931, where he toured the country and vocally supported the rights of unions, worrying some in President Agustín Justo’s government. After an attempted coup by nationalist and pro-Uriburu Minister of War Franciso Medina in 1934, Perón found himself as the chosen replacement, partially to put someone much less pro-labour in the Ministry of Labour. In late 1936, after 2 years of friction-filled coexistence with the much less radical President and his cabinet, the dam burst. Open and violently bitter criticism of the Roca-Runciman Treaty was given by Perón on a radio segment, from a station partially owned by the recent star Eva Duarte, which led to Perón being sacked, and banished to a remote military command in northwestern Argentina.
Demonstrations in Buenos Aires followed, with marches from nationalist leagues and protests from labour unions whirling around the Casa Rosada. Military units ordered in refused to fire, and a few even took up cries of “Perón!”. Perón was quickly recalled before he had even arrived at his command, and asked to tell the people to disperse and not storm the Casa Rosada. He did so, but not without thanking them and promising to lead this new movement. Perón resigned from the army the following day, and began building his Justicialist Party, also referred to as the Perónist Party, into a storm of populism to bring down the President and government that had wronged him, the workers, and Argentina itself so much.
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by The Traansval » Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:06 pm
by Strala » Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:18 pm
by Intermountain States » Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:36 pm
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm a third party voter. Trust me when I say this: Not even a lifetime supply of tacos could convince me to vote for either Hillary or Trump. I suspect I'm not the only third party voter who feels that way. I cost Hillary nothing. I cost Trump nothing. If I didn't vote for third party, I would have written in 'Batman'.
If you try to blame me, I will laugh in your face. I'm glad she lost. I got half my wish. :)
by Kenobot » Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:36 pm
by The Traansval » Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:14 pm
Kenobot wrote:Well this throws my history completely off. Might be due for a major rework of my app.
Major problem is that dominions could only be so IRL because they proclaimed homage to a common monarch, where as now there is no monarch.
If it is Parliament to which they pay homage, then the Statute of Westminster is void.
I highly doubt they would pay common homage to the Grand Protector; seems a bit weird.
Might go for an Indian/British exiles Empire-in-exile. Would we continue to use the Stuart line?
Strala wrote:Would the British send something akin to the Macartney Mission to the Ming, and would they allow for the sales of weapons and technological goods like IRL? If not, I might need to change my app.
by Strala » Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:59 pm
The Traansval wrote:Kenobot wrote:Well this throws my history completely off. Might be due for a major rework of my app.
Major problem is that dominions could only be so IRL because they proclaimed homage to a common monarch, where as now there is no monarch.
If it is Parliament to which they pay homage, then the Statute of Westminster is void.
I highly doubt they would pay common homage to the Grand Protector; seems a bit weird.
Might go for an Indian/British exiles Empire-in-exile. Would we continue to use the Stuart line?
If you want to sure but I wrote in the Commonwealth and Dominions to it, read Territory section. It's just a natural progression from the Responsible Governments to self-rule. Dominions have a Governor-General who acts as representative of Parliament. I tried to make it so your history works fine.
Edit: Also the history Is only partially there. The Grand Protector is a very, very recent thing. From 1810 to basically 1924 Britain is a truly democratic republic with a ceremonial HoS in the form of a council of the Presidents of England, Scotland and Ireland.Strala wrote:Would the British send something akin to the Macartney Mission to the Ming, and would they allow for the sales of weapons and technological goods like IRL? If not, I might need to change my app.
The MacCartney mission actually happened OTL directly during my revolutionary period so maybe not at the time it happened but one happening later sure. I'm amenable to whatever you want to do for your history.
by The Orson Empire » Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:50 pm
by Tracian Empire » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:39 pm
Kenobot wrote:Well this throws my history completely off. Might be due for a major rework of my app.
Major problem is that dominions could only be so IRL because they proclaimed homage to a common monarch, where as now there is no monarch.
If it is Parliament to which they pay homage, then the Statute of Westminster is void.
I highly doubt they would pay common homage to the Grand Protector; seems a bit weird.
Might go for an Indian/British exiles Empire-in-exile. Would we continue to use the Stuart line?
by Tracian Empire » Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:40 pm
The Orson Empire wrote:Alright, since the original player dropped out, I've got an idea for a semi-industrialized Egypt. Basically, after the Strategos of Egypt successfully revolts against the Romans in 1821, Muhammad Ali leads a successful Islamic revolt against him in 1827, becoming the Sultan of an independent Egypt. Muhammad Ali successfully implements his modernization reforms and the country begins to rapidly westernize and industrialize, and he also leads a campaign to conquer Sudan. In the 1870's, the Sultanate is reformed into the United Kingdom, and becomes a secular constitutional monarchy. The United Kingdom sides with the winning side of WW1, and afterwards occupies the northern portion of Palestine in a bid to restore order in the region in the midst of the Palestinian Civil War. The Ghassanids would be seen as a menace by Egypt, likely provoking future "peacekeeping operations" in the region.
Also, is there a Discord yet?Reservation
Nation Name: United Kingdom of Egypt and Sudan
Territory: Egypt, Sudan, Northern Palestine
Tech Tree: Sweden
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*Note: Reservations will last for 48 hours. The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations.
by Intermountain States » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:15 am
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm a third party voter. Trust me when I say this: Not even a lifetime supply of tacos could convince me to vote for either Hillary or Trump. I suspect I'm not the only third party voter who feels that way. I cost Hillary nothing. I cost Trump nothing. If I didn't vote for third party, I would have written in 'Batman'.
If you try to blame me, I will laugh in your face. I'm glad she lost. I got half my wish. :)
by Tracian Empire » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:21 am
Intermountain States wrote:Nation Application
Full Nation Name: United States of America
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by Tracian Empire » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:30 am
by Finland SSR » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:00 am
by Kenobot » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:49 am
by Tracian Empire » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:13 am
Finland SSR wrote:I think I will have to drop out as Poland, just realized that I have way more on my plate than I thought.
by Tracian Empire » Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:15 am
Kenobot wrote:Major rework WIP, but this is it so farNation Application
Full Nation Name: The British Empire of India
Short Nation Name: British India
National Symbols:
The Union Jack, the official flag of the Empire
Britannia, personification of the Empire
Proposed flag of the Dominion of India post-Homecoming
Capital: New Delhi
Territory: India, Pakistan, Burma, Bangladesh
Form of Government: Westminster system Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: King-Emperor Edward VIII with Princess Cheluvajammani of Mysore as his Queen Consort
Head of Government: Prime Minister Sikandar Hayat Khan
Ideology: Following the flight of the exiles following the revolution in 1780, a wave of political dissidents of all stripes began to appear in India; escaping first the moderate Republicans, then the Jacobins and finally the dictatorial National Republican Party. Republicanism had been a disastrous experience in the Home Isles and it was clear that a strong, yet restrained Monarch must lead the nation. For the last 120 years, these two ideas have carried true in the restored British Empire with universal suffrage, including that of women and Indians, being introduced in 1916. Before this, universal male suffrage was in place for those of British descent.
Population: 399, 305, 300
Military Description:The British Indian Army
Tech Tree: Indian
Economic Description: Once independence was secured in 1817 the first King-Emperor George IV and his first Prime Minister and Hero of the rebellion, Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington, instituted wide-ranging reforms across the sub-continent that ended the economic pressures on the Indian economy which had previously kept it down in a commodity-based economy and saw its wealth pillaged and shipped off-shore. The East India Company was abolished and its assets absorbed by Parliament. Over the course of the first half of the 19th Century, this was the government’s primary agenda and saw the early stages of Indian industrialisation with help from the small but steady flow of exiles from the Home Isles and elsewhere in Europe. By 1870, new agricultural techniques and equipment had arrived in the sub-continent which had enabled India to finally be able to feed itself without imports. At the turn of the 20th Century, the Indian economy was at an all-time high, overtaking their Chinese counterparts and in stiff competition with the Japanese.
Goals: Reclaim the Home Isles, maintain social harmony, continue building ties between British exiles and the Indian communities, Maintain the Crown and Parliament
Point of Divergence: Following the British revolution(See British app), political dissidents and those unjustly hunted by the new authorities fled to the far reaches of the Empire, with India being the primary destination.
History: With the death of Henry and the exile of many of the nobility and other political dissidents following the British Revolution, the British Monarchy seemed lost forever. But as fate would have it, many of the exiles sooner or later found themselves in India alongside the British East India Company. While the company was aware of the presence of many dissidents that would be wanted in London, it was thought that they would be more useful to the company in India than in the Tower of London. The exiles for their part established large communities in Calcutta, Madras and Bombay, which helped bring exiles and those seeking asylum to India where they would be safe, welcome and prosperous; though a bit humid.
As the exile communities continued to grow, the nobility in exile in India gathered in secret as a pseudo-House of Lords in Calcutta to plan for the future. The primary objective would be deciding who the next in-line to the throne would be. With the death of the last Stuart Monarch died the Stuart line, but the next in-line was a Catholic Stuart descendant. The nobility was almost entirely Anglican and so a document titled the “Act of Settlement 1798” was passed by the House of Lords, which explicitly prohibited Catholics from being included in the line of succession, which led the Lords to proclaim George IV of Hanover as King. While it was thought unlikely that George would accept the title, the ongoing revolutionary wars in Europe led to George accepting the claim immediately. Before George could push for the throne in the Isles themselves however, Britain dropped out of the war.
In the intervening time, the numbers of the exiles swelled; those fleeing the violence on the continent, those fleeing the persecution of the Jacobites and those seeking fortune and glory in India. Noting the Republicans in Europe would be distracted by their participation in the French revolutionary wars, in 1804 the exiles in India overthrew the East India Company and proclaimed the birth of the British Empire of India.
While initially only holding territories of the company in India, the first 12 years of the Empire were spent in constant conflict, expanding direct and indirect control across the eastern and southern parts of India. It was during this period that George IV made his first and only trip to his Indian realms, arriving in Calcutta to great fanfare.
Following the initial conquests, official representations were made to the Monarchs of Europe for recognition, few of which were granted at first.
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by Arvenia » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:09 am
by Tracian Empire » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:15 am
Arvenia wrote:Wait, is Gibraltar available?
by Tracian Empire » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:24 am
Wansul wrote:Parts of my application are still WIP, but I'd love feedback on any of the completed parts.
[box]Nation Application
Full Nation Name: República Argentina
Should have it up later today, or by tomorrow!
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