by Sailiopia » Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:25 am
by Gracius Maximus » Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:30 am
by Lord Dominator » Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:34 am
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:04 am
Lord Dominator wrote:BSS is Catgirls and Atomic merged into Potato, as point of correction.
by Gracius Maximus » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:09 am
by Sailiopia » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:12 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Why are there multiple Crabs of the Apocalypse factions?
by Noachis Terra » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:17 am
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:21 am
by Lord Dominator » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:23 am
by Great Algerstonia » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:29 am
Resilient Acceleration wrote:After a period of letting this discussion run its course without my involvement due to sheer laziness and a new related NS project, I have returned with an answer and that answer is Israel.
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:31 am
by Rick Perry » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:35 am
Sailiopia wrote:I've joined fairly late on, but I can quite confidently say that this N-day is much more boring and disappointing than last year's (I'm in the Potato Alliance, although my main has left just in case the others get obliterated, so that I can join a smaller faction if I want).
From the looks of it, it began in a fairly lame way, with only two major factions (CotA and the Potatoes), which had a mutual defence pact for the first few hours. This meant that almost every other faction would have a negative score, preventing anyone from interfering in the impeding duel. Then, CotA, with a significant numerical advantage, overpowered the Potatoes and is now on it's way to an almost certain victory.
Part of the problem is the lack of superfactions - Augustin Alliance aren't taking part, Ba Sing Se and ATOMIC are nowhere to be seen, and others such as Fuster Cluck and CRAB aren't taking part (although the latter merged with the Horsemen to create CotA). No real new superfaction was formed. Therefore, we have no alliance webs, coalitions, or other things that would balance out the battle. Compiling so much nations into 2 factions just doesn't work, it means that one faction wins and everyone else loses, in this sense the factions are becoming too big. Another problem is the use of puppets - it's getting to a ridiculous level by this point, and is making whoever has the most card farmers, R/D gameplayers, or people willing to create hundreds of puppets, the winner.
Something needs to be done for next N-day to re-balance this - technical changes (I might post a Technical thread once this is locked), limitations etc. although it is such a big balancing act. I personally have no clue about what could make it exciting again.
Until then, I will continue to go down with my ship, before hopefully jumping off and finding another sinking ship to jump on. Looking forward to Z-day, hopefully we'll have an enjoyable one then.
by Sailiopia » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:44 am
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:54 am
Sailiopia wrote:Update: I've left The Potato Alliance and joined the Liberty Democratic Alliance's faction, as they are a region that my region is pretty close to. I've started targeting and firing nukes at small, undefended regions to get some score. But even this isn't possible.
Turns out that CotA are so bored that they are now defending neutral factions, to avoid medium-sized factions from climbing back up the scoreboard. If anything, this is evidence of how broken this minigame is. When a faction becomes so dominant that they are defending factions that no-one has ever heard of because they don't have anything to do with their shields, then something has gone wrong.
We must institute one or several of these ideas for next N-day: A cap on nations in a faction, WA membership requirement for taking part, or preventing shielding of nukes not sent from or directed to your own faction. Ideally a combination of these, and other tweaks, must be made for next N-day to prevent something like this happening again.
by Vikanias » Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:55 am
Sailiopia wrote:Update: I've left The Potato Alliance and joined the Liberty Democratic Alliance's faction, as they are a region that my region is pretty close to. I've started targeting and firing nukes at small, undefended regions to get some score. But even this isn't possible.
Turns out that CotA are so bored that they are now defending neutral factions, to avoid medium-sized factions from climbing back up the scoreboard. If anything, this is evidence of how broken this minigame is. When a faction becomes so dominant that they are defending factions that no-one has ever heard of because they don't have anything to do with their shields, then something has gone wrong.
We must institute one or several of these ideas for next N-day: A cap on nations in a faction, WA membership requirement for taking part, or preventing shielding of nukes not sent from or directed to your own faction. Ideally a combination of these, and other tweaks, must be made for next N-day to prevent something like this happening again.
by That Called the Vlagh » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:09 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Ban on duplicate factions as well. No more CotA 3 and 4 crap as that also will keep other factions off the scoreboard.
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:11 am
by Tinhampton » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:16 am
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:24 am
Tinhampton wrote:What is supposed to be the difference between a normal faction and a "duplicate faction?" If the difference is meant to be based on name alone, won't Chingis just name his Crabs of the Apocalypse [NUMBER] regions after Himalayan mountains or famous supermodels instead and still get past the proposed ban?
by Minoa » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:01 am
by The Batavia » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:10 am
by Toxic Scripting 124 » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:29 am
Minoa wrote: especially when the leading alliance has ten times as many points as All Nations Against Liberals
by East Stal Saillnerce » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:44 am
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by Sailiopia » Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:55 am
Minoa wrote:Sailiopia, the 6th Nuclear Apocalypse was not disappointing: it has become unplayable, especially with the Crabs of the Apocalypse dominating all top 10 spots now.
I believe that the organisers of the Nuclear Apocalypse must acknowledge that something has gone horribly wrong, and launch and immediate investigation before any future editions take place.
I am starting to doubt that the dominance of the Crabs of the Apocalypse is something to be considered a good thing at all, especially when the leading alliance hastenabout 900 times as many points as All Nations Against Liberals. Since there are still far more players than the number of nations in the real world, even after discounting the card farmers, it only makes sense that measures exist to ensure that the Nuclear Apocalypse remains competitive.
If this is going to be the future of the Nuclear Apocalypse on NationStates, players are simply not going to take part at all, which will threaten the future of the Nuclear Apocalypse.
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