SC Questions & Answers

by **Hanovereich** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:43 am

Re the new SC category, are we allowed to legislate in declarations?

by **Bhang Bhang Duc** » Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:48 am

Hanovereich wrote:Re the new SC category, are we allowed to legislate in declarations?

No. If you look at the current one at vote you will see Cormac has phrased his guidelines as steps regions should take, not must take.

The GA remains the sole place for legislation.

by **Religious Lennox** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:35 pm

What's the difference between a declaration proposal and a General Assembly proposal. I really don't understand the difference. Also, can anyone give me ideas for a SC proposal or a GA proposal, I'm going to write one of those.

by **Bhang Bhang Duc** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:38 pm

Religious Lennox wrote:What's the difference between a declaration proposal and a General Assembly proposal. I really don't understand the difference. Also, can anyone give me ideas for a SC proposal or a GA proposal, I'm going to write one of those.

See my post above yours. Declarations are an agreed position, not legislation. The GA remains the sole place to legislate. And there are plenty of ideas in the SC Ideas thread for possible SC C&Cs.

by **Religious Lennox** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:40 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Religious Lennox wrote:What's the difference between a declaration proposal and a General Assembly proposal. I really don't understand the difference. Also, can anyone give me ideas for a SC proposal or a GA proposal, I'm going to write one of those.

See my post above yours. And there are plenty of ideas in the SC Ideas thread.

So GA is legislation, and like Declration is like the formal announcement of the beginning of a state or condition.

by **Bhang Bhang Duc** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:03 pm

Religious Lennox wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:See my post above yours. And there are plenty of ideas in the SC Ideas thread.

So GA is legislation, and like Declration is like the formal announcement of the beginning of a state or condition.

See here.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/ ... index.html

Also here.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=506661

by **Debussy** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:50 pm

In a card based declaration, would you need to define terms like card, market, and bank if those are built into the game?

by **Sedgistan** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:00 am

I'd suggest looking at card based Commendations / Condemnations for the language that is used in them. It's no different in Declarations.

by **Religious Lennox** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:29 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Religious Lennox wrote:So GA is legislation, and like Declration is like the formal announcement of the beginning of a state or condition.

See here.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/ ... index.html

Also here.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=506661

Oh

by **Religious Lennox** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:14 am

Debussy wrote:In a card based declaration, would you need to define terms like card, market, and bank if those are built into the game?

Sedgistan wrote:I'd suggest looking at card based Commendations / Condemnations for the language that is used in them. It's no different in Declarations.

Oh thanks guys!

by **Vyladylande** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:04 pm

Do role play events count as valid reasons for commendations?

by **Tinhampton** » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:07 pm

Vyladylande wrote:Do role play events count as valid reasons for commendations?

Yes - so long as you don't call it roleplay

by **Trivalve** » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:26 am

What exactly does condemning do? I know that commending gives you a badge but what are the effects of condemning?

by **Emodea** » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:29 am

Trivalve wrote:What exactly does condemning do? I know that commending gives you a badge but what are the effects of condemning?

Same thing, just gives you a shiny badge.

by **Trivalve** » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:31 am

Emodea wrote:
Trivalve wrote:What exactly does condemning do? I know that commending gives you a badge but what are the effects of condemning?

Same thing, just gives you a shiny badge.

You get a badge for being condemned? That's actually funny.

by **Bhang Bhang Duc** » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:33 am

Trivalve wrote:
Emodea wrote:Same thing, just gives you a shiny badge.

You get a badge for being condemned? That's actually funny.

Condemning a nation or region is a recognition of them for having played the villain well and successfully over a longish period of time.

by **Bears Armed** » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:26 am

In both cases the badges are clickable links to the resolutions concerned, so that people can easily read more about why the badges were awarded.

by **Thousand Branches** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:19 pm

I’m curious, what are the rules on this forum regarding non-draft threads (such as the rules discussion thread or the ideas thread). I’ve had an idea for a while for a sort of wording workshop thread to help with writing troubles, ideas for how to word things, a list of action words for people, etc. Also stuff like active voice, the differences between which and that, that kind of thing. My goal is to spark some more creativity and individuality within proposals. Give people resources and ideas to make their resolutions more robust and interesting. I’m always excited to see proposals that don’t fit into the same mold as each proposal before them, and I want to foster more of that in the future!

In case you don’t want to read all that, the question was simply whether a thread like this would be allowed or possible to post because I don’t entirely know the forum’s rules on that

by **Goobergunchia** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:30 pm

Go for it.

by **Unibot III** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:37 pm

That sounds really cool!

by **Comfed** » Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:43 pm

Do it!

by **Unibot III** » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:41 pm

How would a Declaration work in relation to a delete-on-site player? Like if a Declaration discussed a delete-on-site (DOS) player, without calling for any change in their status or reference to the ban. Does a DOS order impact whether a resolution can reference them?

by **Lord Dominator** » Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:10 pm

Unibot III wrote:How would a Declaration work in relation to a delete-on-site player? Like if a Declaration discussed a delete-on-site (DOS) player, without calling for any change in their status or reference to the ban. Does a DOS order impact whether a resolution can reference them?

We’ve repealed the Condemns of DoS players I believe, I don’t see why it’d be a problem with Declarations provided it stays inside the rules otherwise.

by **Giovanniland** » Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:33 pm

Unibot III wrote:How would a Declaration work in relation to a delete-on-site player? Like if a Declaration discussed a delete-on-site (DOS) player, without calling for any change in their status or reference to the ban. Does a DOS order impact whether a resolution can reference them?

While I'm not a mod and thus can't comment for sure on whether it would be legal, I do have a comment on the idea itself... just why? DOS players are gone forever from the site, let's not give them and their wrongdoings more attention.

by **Sedgistan** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:05 am

That probably falls under the umbrella of Rule 3a - "In some circumstances rules violations may be legal to refer to in a proposal - you must always request a ruling prior to submission if you wish to do this."

Some things, like referring to Milograd's coups, or Cormac's delegacy of wherever, are innocuous and likely fine. Others, of which I'm sure we can all imagine plenty of examples, would get a firm "no chance" from Moderation.

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