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Postby Daarwyrth » Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:01 pm

Araraukar wrote:OOC: So, can Araraukar sell Daarwyrthian territory to someone else or is there something in the proposal stopping it (and I'm just not seeing it)? :P

OOC: Of course that is not possible under this proposal :P I have removed the "any" bit which should clarify the definition of 'transition'. I won't add "sovereign" to the definition, as that would reintroduce the problem that Imperium Anglorum spoke with with the threat thing. I was contemplating changing it to:

"a "transition" as the transfer of territory from the member state it belongs to, to another member state resulting from economic, political or diplomatic proceedings;"

Would that work as an alternative? In my head "the transfer of territory from one member state to another member state" sounds clear enough, if I am honest. And I am also afraid that "territory from the member state it belongs to" also would reintroduce the problem IA spoke of, namely that a state could say "that territory doesn't belong to you", as a way to avoid compliance with the proposal.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:36 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:2. Mandates that member states inform affected inhabitants, without interference or obstruction, as well as extensively and with sufficient advance notice, on any jurisdictional changes that they will be subjected to as a result of a transition, such as the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain and/or lose, and provide affected inhabitants with all other information relevant to that transition, and the changes it will inflict upon them;

"Without interference or obstruction of what, and by whom? I am not sure what that part of this section is even meant to prevent. On the whole section itself, I must ask what member states are to do about people who aren't interested in receiving this extensive education on foreign policy and law. This clause still requires member states to inform them, whether they are willing to receive the information or not. Are member states to arrest citizens who do not read their course material?"
3. Demands that affected inhabitants are granted citizenship by the receiving state if they held that status under the jurisdiction of their former nation of habitation, or any other equivalent right to residency that they enjoyed in their previous state;

"Well, that doesn't make sense. Say Wallenburg transferred some of its territory to another member state. The Wallenburgian citizens there do not become foreigners as a result of a territorial transfer. They are not bound to the land by some medieval contract."
4. Requires member states to allow affected inhabitants who are unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state as a result of a transition, to relocate to another part of their nation that is suitable for civilian habitation, along with any other rights guaranteed by earlier legislation passed by this international body that has not been replaced;

"These terms deeply unsettle me. Either become a foreigner or be displaced from your home. This sounds an awful lot like World Assembly-mandated ethnic cleansing."
Also requires member nations to have the provisions of this resolution included in the treaties and/or agreements regulating the transition of territories as per the definition of Clause 1a, regardless of whether the other nations involved in those agreements are or are not also WA members; and

"This is impossible to achieve. Most member states, Wallenburg included, cannot unilaterally demand the introduction of such poor policy into their treaties with other nations. The function of this is to dismantle the majority of relevant international agreements, and freeze the achievement of new ones."
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Postby Daarwyrth » Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:17 am

Wallenburg wrote:"Without interference or obstruction of what, and by whom? I am not sure what that part of this section is even meant to prevent. On the whole section itself, I must ask what member states are to do about people who aren't interested in receiving this extensive education on foreign policy and law. This clause still requires member states to inform them, whether they are willing to receive the information or not. Are member states to arrest citizens who do not read their course material?"

Vyn Nysen: "Valid points that our delegation will consider including in the next draft, thank you."

Wallenburg wrote:"Well, that doesn't make sense. Say Wallenburg transferred some of its territory to another member state. The Wallenburgian citizens there do not become foreigners as a result of a territorial transfer. They are not bound to the land by some medieval contract."

"Of course they are not bound to the land by contract, yet it would be completely unfair to leave those inhabitants without citizenship in their new state. Our delegation will work on tweaking the language here somewhat to have it be along the lines of "an offer of citizenship" by the receiving state."

Wallenburg wrote:"These terms deeply unsettle me. Either become a foreigner or be displaced from your home. This sounds an awful lot like World Assembly-mandated ethnic cleansing."

"Your concerns are deeply unfounded, Ambassador, and instead leave me somewhat concerned that you cast such accusations so easily. This clause gives citizens the right to relocate should they not wish to be a part of a territorial transition. A few moments ago you said that citizens are not bound to land by some medieval contract. I agree, and this clause grants them the ability to freely relocate if those inhabitants deem that they don't want to become a part of the receiving state. It is nothing more than an affirmation and assurance that all can act according to their own free will."

Wallenburg wrote:"This is impossible to achieve. Most member states, Wallenburg included, cannot unilaterally demand the introduction of such poor policy into their treaties with other nations. The function of this is to dismantle the majority of relevant international agreements, and freeze the achievement of new ones."

"I am sorry to hear you consider this poor policy, Ambassador, yet the other Ambassadors who suggested the clause, the delegation from Bears Armed primarily, seemed to believe such a thing is workable. As a result, we choose to believe it is. Member nations will be obligated to adhere to the articles of this resolution anyway, and I believe it is worth the effort to include the provisions of this resolution proposal into future treaties with non-members, to ensure that inhabitants will be treated fairly."
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Jylien Barwald, Press Secretary: "Our delegation has produced a new draft in light of the criticism offered by the delegation from Wallenburg. Further commentary and feedback would be most appreciated."
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Postby Hulldom » Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:08 pm

“I have no qualms with any of the text, Your Eminence, it looks agreeable to the Hulldomian delegation. However, we would like to suggest, due to the introductory wording to each clause, that clauses 9 and 10 are reversed unless you are requiring 9 and 10 is merely a suggestion. Though the wording of clause 10 would suggest the opposite.”
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Hulldom wrote:“I have no qualms with any of the text, Your Eminence, it looks agreeable to the Hulldomian delegation. However, we would like to suggest, due to the introductory wording to each clause, that clauses 9 and 10 are reversed unless you are requiring 9 and 10 is merely a suggestion. Though the wording of clause 10 would suggest the opposite.”

Vyn Nysen: "The order of the two clauses is intentional as in its current form, Ambassador. The 'also' is a reference to the earlier use of 'further', as there are three 'requires' in the proposal text. For reasons of language variation, the use of 'also' was adopted in Clause 9. Nonetheless, we thank you for your commentary and observant eye. I hope that my explanation clarified the issue."
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Postby Daarwyrth » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:43 am

OOC: Moving this to last call. Any last comments and feedback would be most welcome!
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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:29 am

OOC: After a long period of no activity, this proposal has been submitted (again). Thank you all for your feedback and commentary!
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:49 am

Daarwyrth wrote:Demands that affected inhabitants are offered citizenship by the receiving state if they held that status under the jurisdiction of their former nation of habitation, or any other equivalent right to residency that they enjoyed in their previous state;

Is this meant to confer right of abode, suffragium, contract rights, etc? What is meant here?

Daarwyrth wrote:Requires member states to allow affected inhabitants who are unwilling to become the inhabitant of another sovereign state as a result of a transition, to relocate to another part of their nation that is suitable for civilian habitation, along with any other rights guaranteed by earlier legislation passed by this international body that has not been replaced;

What is this "that has not been replaced" qualifier? I would imagine it would mean something different from "not repealed" or "extant", given that we have replacements in the GA and they are not always coterminous with a prior resolution's mandates.

Daarwyrth wrote:Further requires receiving states to grant inhabitants who have had their citizenship or right to residence transferred as a result of a transition, a period of acclimatisation to their change of jurisdiction, which must be of a fair length and grant them enough time to integrate into their new nation, and which should be taken into consideration by the authorities of the receiving state where appropriate and necessary;

What is intended here?



What about partition of a previous entity (the first example that comes to mind is British India) into one or more de novo successor entities (in this case, Burma, India, and Pakistan)? Their non-preexisting status would place them outside the definitions in section 1.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:08 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Is this meant to confer right of abode, suffragium, contract rights, etc? What is meant here?

Citizenship, just like the text says. I imagine that every member nation has their own rights, privileges and duties attached to that notion of citizenship.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:What is this "that has not been replaced" qualifier? I would imagine it would mean something different from "not repealed" or "extant", given that we have replacements in the GA and they are not always coterminous with a prior resolution's mandates.

The wording was proposed by Bears Armed, and explained as follows:
Bears Armed wrote:OOC: How about "with any other rights guaranteed by earlier GA legislation that has not been replaced" ? That would cover #34 even if the latter were to be repealed without replacement...


Imperium Anglorum wrote:What is intended here?

Exactly what the clause says: a period of acclimatisation to the new situation, both physical and legal (especially legal). If for example a new inhabitant could not reasonably know about a law and breaks that law, that should be taken into account in any sentencing or fine.

Imperium Anglorum wrote:What about partition of a previous entity (the first example that comes to mind is British India) into one or more de novo successor entities (in this case, Burma, India, and Pakistan)? Their non-preexisting status would place them outside the definitions in section 1.

That situation is indeed not covered by this resolution proposal. I think that the situation that you describe would even merit its own resolution specifically focused on those circumstances.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:58 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Is this meant to confer right of abode, suffragium, contract rights, etc? What is meant here?

Citizenship, just like the text says. I imagine that every member nation has their own rights, privileges and duties attached to that notion of citizenship.

So why does the text also mention residency? Citizenship and right of abode are separable: one can be a British citizen and not have right of abode in Britain.

Daarwyrth wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:What is this "that has not been replaced" qualifier? I would imagine it would mean something different from "not repealed" or "extant", given that we have replacements in the GA and they are not always coterminous with a prior resolution's mandates.

The wording was proposed by Bears Armed, and explained as follows:
Bears Armed wrote:OOC: How about "with any other rights guaranteed by earlier GA legislation that has not been replaced" ? That would cover #34 even if the latter were to be repealed without replacement...

I think this is metagaming then; it seeks to preserve provisions of legislation even after those provisions are repealed. The same arguments for contradiction apply as to the policy argument against a too-complex law code.

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Imperium Anglorum wrote:What about partition of a previous entity (the first example that comes to mind is British India) into one or more de novo successor entities (in this case, Burma, India, and Pakistan)? Their non-preexisting status would place them outside the definitions in section 1.

That situation is indeed not covered by this resolution proposal. I think that the situation that you describe would even merit its own resolution specifically focused on those circumstances.

Which can't feasibly be written without integration with the policies of moving one group of people from one pre-existing jurisdiction to another. It's also implied to be covered in the title; but ignoring that, you have sufficient space.
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Protections During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware that territorial transitions between member states may occur as part of trade agreements or other diplomatic proceedings; and

Affirming that sovereign states have the right to manage their territory as they see fit; and

Applauding previously passed legislation and its mandate that member states allow their inhabitants to fulfil their basic needs; yet

Concerned about the fate of those inhabitants that must endure the effects of territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution:

    1. a "transition" as the transfer of territory from one member state to another member state resulting from economic, political or diplomatic proceedings;

    2. a "receiving state" as a member state that acquires territory as a result of a transition; and

    3. an "affected inhabitant" as an inhabitant of any area of a member state that is directly affected by a transition;

  2. Mandates that member states inform affected inhabitants extensively and with sufficient advance notice on any jurisdictional changes that they will be subjected to as a result of a transition, such as the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain and/or lose, and provide affected inhabitants with all other information relevant to that transition, and the changes it will inflict upon them, unless affected inhabitants have overtly communicated not to want such information or contact on the subject;

  3. Demands that affected inhabitants are offered citizenship by the receiving state if they held that status under the jurisdiction of their former nation of habitation, or any other equivalent right to residency that they enjoyed in their previous state;

  4. Requires member states to allow affected inhabitants who are unwilling to become the inhabitant of another sovereign state as a result of a transition, to relocate to another part of their nation that is suitable for civilian habitation, along with any other rights guaranteed by earlier legislation passed by this international body that has not been replaced;

  5. Instructs member states to assist affected inhabitants who would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of relocating within that member state in line with their right as granted by Clause 4;

  6. Clarifies that, in cases of mass relocation as a result of a transition, or multiple transitions, which would cause a nation to be overwhelmed in terms of housing and the fulfilment of affected inhabitants' basic needs, Clauses 4 and 5 may be temporarily waived (and resolved through other suitable, temporary measures) until that nation is no longer so overwhelmed;

  7. Further requires receiving states to grant inhabitants who have had their citizenship or right to residence transferred as a result of a transition, a period of acclimatisation to their change of jurisdiction, which must be of a fair length and grant them enough time to integrate into their new nation, and which should be taken into consideration by the authorities of the receiving state where appropriate and necessary;

  8. Tasks receiving states with granting assistance that is free of charge in cases where affected inhabitants would request aid and/or guidance regarding affairs such as legal integration into their new jurisdiction, or the learning of the receiving state's official language(s);

  9. Also requires member nations to have the provisions of this resolution included in the treaties and/or agreements regulating the transition of territories as per the definition of Clause 1a, regardless of whether the other nations involved in those agreements are or are not also WA members; and

  10. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of affected inhabitants are not unduly infringed upon as a result of a transition.


DRAFT 10:
Protections During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware that territorial transitions between member states may occur as part of trade agreements or other diplomatic proceedings; and

Affirming that sovereign states have the right to manage their territory as they see fit; and

Applauding previously passed legislation and its mandate that member states allow their inhabitants to fulfil their basic needs; yet

Concerned about the fate of those inhabitants that must endure the effects of territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution:

    1. a "transition" as the transfer of territory from one member state to another member state resulting from economic, political or diplomatic proceedings;

    2. a "receiving state" as a member state that acquires territory as a result of a transition; and

    3. an "affected inhabitant" as an inhabitant of any area of a member state that is directly affected by a transition;

  2. Mandates that member states inform affected inhabitants, without interference or obstruction, as well as extensively and with sufficient advance notice, on any jurisdictional changes that they will be subjected to as a result of a transition, such as the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain and/or lose, and provide affected inhabitants with all other information relevant to that transition, and the changes it will inflict upon them;

  3. Demands that affected inhabitants are granted citizenship by the receiving state if they held that status under the jurisdiction of their former nation of habitation, or any other equivalent right to residency that they enjoyed in their previous state;

  4. Requires member states to allow affected inhabitants who are unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state as a result of a transition, to relocate to another part of their nation that is suitable for civilian habitation, along with any other rights guaranteed by earlier legislation passed by this international body that has not been replaced;

  5. Instructs member states to assist affected inhabitants who would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of relocating within that member state in line with their right as granted by Clause 4;

  6. Clarifies that, in cases of mass relocation as a result of a transition, or multiple transitions, which would cause a nation to be overwhelmed in terms of housing and the fulfilment of affected inhabitants' basic needs, Clauses 4 and 5 may be temporarily waived (and resolved through other suitable, temporary measures) until that nation is no longer so overwhelmed;

  7. Further requires receiving states to grant inhabitants who have had their citizenship or right to residence transferred as a result of a transition, a period of acclimatisation to their change of jurisdiction, which must be of a fair length and grant them enough time to integrate into their new nation, and which should be taken into consideration by the authorities of the receiving state where appropriate and necessary;

  8. Tasks receiving states with granting assistance that is free of charge in cases where affected inhabitants would request aid and/or guidance regarding affairs such as legal integration into their new jurisdiction, or the learning of the receiving state's official language(s);

  9. Also requires member nations to have the provisions of this resolution included in the treaties and/or agreements regulating the transition of territories as per the definition of Clause 1a, regardless of whether the other nations involved in those agreements are or are not also WA members; and

  10. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of affected inhabitants are not unduly infringed upon as a result of a transition.


DRAFT 9:
Protections During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware that territorial transitions between member states may occur as part of trade agreements or other diplomatic proceedings; and

Affirming that sovereign states have the right to manage their territory as they see fit; and

Applauding previously passed legislation and its mandate that member states allow their inhabitants to fulfil their basic needs; yet

Concerned about the fate of those inhabitants that must endure the effects of non-violent territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution:

    1. a "transition" as the transfer of any territory from a member state to another member state resulting from economic, political or diplomatic proceedings without armed conflict (or the threat of such) preceding them;

    2. a "receiving state" as a member state that acquires territory as a result of a transition; and

    3. an "affected inhabitant" as an inhabitant of any area of a member state that is directly affected by a transition;

  2. Mandates that member states inform affected inhabitants, extensively, in detail, and with sufficient advance notice, on the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain and/or lose as a result of a transition directly affecting them;

  3. Insists that member states distribute to affected inhabitants, without interference or obstruction, yet with sufficient advance notice, all information relevant to that transition which may impact them (whether positively or negatively), including information on the jurisdictional changes they will be subjected to as a result of a transition directly affecting them;

  4. Requires member states to allow affected inhabitants who are unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state as a result of a transition, to relocate to another part of their nation that is suitable for civilian habitation, along with any other rights guaranteed by earlier legislation passed by this international body that has not been replaced;

  5. Instructs member states to assist affected inhabitants who would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of relocating within that member state in line with their right as granted by Clause 4;

  6. Clarifies that, in cases of mass relocation as a result of a transition, or multiple transitions, which would cause a nation to be overwhelmed in terms of housing and the fulfillment of affected inhabitants' basic needs, Clauses 4 and 5 may be temporarily waived (and resolved through other suitable, temporary measures) until that nation is no longer so overwhelmed;

  7. Further requires receiving states to grant inhabitants who have had their citizenship or right to residence transferred as a result of a transition, a period of acclimatisation to their change of jurisdiction, which must be of a fair length and grant them enough time to integrate into their new nation, and which should be taken into consideration by the authorities of the receiving state where appropriate and necessary;

  8. Tasks receiving states with granting assistance, free of charge, in cases where affected inhabitants would request aid and/or guidance in their legal integration into the new jurisdiction;

  9. Also requires member nations to have the provisions of this resolution included in the treaties and/or agreements regulating the transition of territories as per the definition of Clause 1a, regardless of whether the other nations involved in those agreements are or are not also WA members; and

  10. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of affected inhabitants are not unduly infringed upon as a result of a transition.


DRAFT 8:
Protecting Inhabitants During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware that territorial transitions between member states may occur as part of trade agreements or other diplomatic proceedings; and

Affirming that sovereign states have the right to manage their territory as they see fit; and

Applauding previously passed legislation and its mandate that member states allow their inhabitants to fulfil their basic needs; yet

Concerned about the fate of those inhabitants that must endure the effects of non-violent territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution:

    1. a "transition" as the transfer of any territory from a member state to another member state resulting from economic, political or diplomatic proceedings without armed conflict (or the threat of such) preceding them;

    2. a "receiving state" as a member state that acquires territory as a result of a transition; and

    3. an "affected inhabitant" as an inhabitant of any area of a member state that is directly affected by a transition;

  2. Mandates that member states inform affected inhabitants, extensively, in detail, and with sufficient advance notice, on the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain and/or lose as a result of a transition directly affecting them;

  3. Insists that member states distribute to affected inhabitants, without interference or obstruction, yet with sufficient advance notice, all information relevant to that transition which may impact them (whether positively or negatively), including information on the jurisdictional changes they will be subjected to as a result of a transition directly affecting them;

  4. Requires member states to allow affected inhabitants who are unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state as a result of a transition, to relocate to another part of their nation that is suitable for civilian habitation, along with any other rights guaranteed by earlier legislation passed by this international body that has not been replaced;

  5. Instructs member states to assist affected inhabitants who would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of relocating within that member state in line with their right as granted by Clause 4;

  6. Clarifies that, in cases of mass relocation as a result of a transition, or multiple transitions, which would cause a nation to be overwhelmed in terms of housing and the fulfillment of affected inhabitants' basic needs, Clauses 4 and 5 may be temporarily waived (and resolved through other suitable, temporary measures) until that nation is no longer so overwhelmed;

  7. Further requires receiving states to grant inhabitants who have had their citizenship or right to residence transferred as a result of a transition, a period of acclimatisation to their change of jurisdiction, which must be of a fair length and grant them enough time to integrate into their new nation, and which should be taken into consideration by the authorities of the receiving state where appropriate and necessary;

  8. Tasks receiving states with granting assistance, free of charge, in cases where affected inhabitants would request aid and/or guidance in their legal integration into the new jurisdiction;

  9. Strongly urges member nations to have the provisions of this resolution included in the treaties and/or agreements regulating the transition of territories as per the definition of Clause 1a, when such a transition is to occur between a member nation of the World Assembly and a non-member; and

  10. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of affected inhabitants are not unduly infringed upon as a result of a transition.


DRAFT 7:
Protecting Inhabitants During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware that territorial transitions between member states may occur as part of trade agreements or other diplomatic proceedings;

Affirming that sovereign states have the right to manage their territory as they see fit;

Applauding previously passed legislation and its mandate that member states allow their inhabitants to fulfil their basic needs; yet

Concerned about the fate of those inhabitants that must endure the effects of non-violent territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution:

    1. a "transition" as the transfer of any territory from a member state to another member state resulting from economic, political or diplomatic proceedings without armed conflict (or the threat of such) preceding them;

    2. a "receiving state" as a member state that acquires territory as a result of a transition; and

    3. an "affected inhabitant" as an inhabitant of any area of a member state that is directly affected by a transition;

  2. Mandates that member states inform affected inhabitants, extensively, in detail, and with sufficient advance notice, on the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain and/or lose as a result of a transition directly affecting them;

  3. Insists that member states distribute to affected inhabitants, without interference or obstruction, yet with sufficient advance notice, all information relevant to that transition which may impact them (whether positively or negatively), including information on the jurisdictional changes they will be subjected to as a result of a transition directly affecting them;

  4. Requires member states to allow affected inhabitants who are unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state as a result of a transition, to relocate to another part of their nation that is suitable for civilian habitation;

  5. Instructs member states to assist affected inhabitants who would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of relocating within that member state in line with their right as granted by Clause 4;

  6. Clarifies that, in cases of mass relocation as a result of a transition, or multiple transitions, which would cause a nation to be overwhelmed in terms of housing and the fulfillment of affected inhabitants' basic needs, Clauses 4 and 5 may be temporarily waived (and resolved through other suitable, temporary measures) until that nation is no longer so overwhelmed;

  7. Further requires receiving states to grant inhabitants who have had their citizenship or right to residence transferred as a result of a transition, a period of acclimatisation to their change of jurisdiction, which must be of a fair length and grant them enough time to integrate into their new nation, and which should be taken into consideration by the authorities of the receiving state where appropriate and necessary;

  8. Tasks receiving states with granting assistance, free of charge, in cases where affected inhabitants would request aid and/or guidance in their legal integration into the new jurisdiction; and

  9. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of affected inhabitants are not unduly infringed upon as a result of a transition.


DRAFT 6:
Protecting Inhabitants During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware that territorial transitions between member states may occur as part of trade agreements or other diplomatic proceedings;

Affirming that sovereign states have the right to manage their territory as they see fit;

Acknowledging GAR #344 and its mandate that member states allow their inhabitants to fulfil their basic needs; yet

Concerned about the fate of those inhabitants that must endure the effects of non-violent territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Defines, for the purposes of this resolution:

    1. a "transition" as the transfer of any territory from a member state to another member state resulting from economic, political or diplomatic proceedings without armed conflict (or the threat of such) preceding them;

    2. a "receiving state" as a member state that acquires territory as a result of a transition; and

    3. an "affected inhabitant" as an inhabitant of any area of a member state that is directly affected by a transition;

  2. Mandates that member states inform affected inhabitants, extensively and in detail, on the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain and/or lose as a result of a transition directly affecting them;

  3. Insists that member states distribute to affected inhabitants, without interference or obstruction, all information relevant to that transition which may impact them (whether positively or negatively), including information on the jurisdictional changes they will be subjected to as a result of a transition directly affecting them;

  4. Requires member states to allow affected inhabitants who are unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state as a result of a transition, to relocate to another part of their nation that is suitable for civilian habitation;

  5. Instructs member states to assist affected inhabitants who would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of relocating within that member state in line with their right as granted by Clause 4;

  6. Clarifies that, in cases of mass relocation as a result of a transition, or multiple transitions, which would cause a nation to be overwhelmed in terms of housing and the fulfillment of affected inhabitants' basic needs, Clauses 4 and 5 may be temporarily waived (and resolved through other suitable, temporary measures) until that nation is no longer so overwhelmed;

  7. Further requires receiving states to grant inhabitants who have had their citizenship or right to residence transferred as a result of a transition, a period of acclimatisation to their change of jurisdiction, which must be of a fair length and grant them enough time to integrate into their new nation;

  8. Clarifies that during the period described in Clause 7, affected inhabitants should be judged with a reasonable amount of clemency, where appropriate and necessary, should they fail to comply with the laws and rules of their new jurisdiction because of genuine legal ignorance (for instance, because they could not have reasonably known about or otherwise induced the existence of a law or rule in their new jurisdiction);

  9. Tasks receiving states with granting assistance, free of charge, in cases where affected inhabitants would request aid and/or guidance in their legal integration into the new jurisdiction; and

  10. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of affected inhabitants are not unduly infringed upon as a result of a transition.


DRAFT 5:
Protecting Inhabitants During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware of the territorial transitions between member states as part of trade agreements, or other diplomatic proceedings;

Affirming that it is the right of sovereign states to manage their territory in a manner that they see fit;

Acknowledging GAR #344 and its mandate that member states ensure minimum standards of living for all inhabitants of their territories; yet

Concerned about the fate of those inhabitants that will be forced to endure the effects of non-violent territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Mandates member states to ensure that inhabitants affected by territorial transitions as a result of economic or diplomatic proceedings without armed conflict or the the threat of such preceding them, will be properly aided and guided in the change of jurisdiction that they will be subjected to, in the following way:

    1. Inhabitants who reside within the territory that will be transitioned to another sovereign entity, will be extensively and in detail informed on the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain, and/or lose as a result of the territorial transition; and

    2. No knowledge or information on the jurisdictional changes that inhabitants will be subjected to may be withheld from those affected by a territorial purchase and/or sale, especially when an inhabitant may be negatively impacted by a territorial transition of the aforementioned kind; and

    3. Any information that may otherwise impact the inhabitants of member states who will be subjected to a territorial transition as described in Clause 1, either negatively or positively, will be shared with those inhabitants without interference or obstruction;

  2. Requires member states to grant inhabitants who would be affected by a territorial transition as outlined in Clause 1 the right to relocate to another part of their nation suitable for civilian habitation, should that inhabitant be unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state concurrently with the territorial transition itself;

  3. Instructs member states to assist inhabitants who would choose to relocate to a different part of their country as a result of their right as stated in Clause 2, in the event that those inhabitants would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of the relocation;

  4. Clarifies that in cases of mass relocation as a result of territorial transitions as specified under Clause 1, which would cause a nation to be overwhelmed in terms of housing and the fulfillment of inhabitants' basic needs, the latter's rights as granted by Clauses 2 and 3 can be temporarily waived, and resolved through other suitable, temporary measures, until the nation in question has mitigated its overwhelmed state;

  5. Further requires member states to grant inhabitants who have had their citizenship or right to residence transferred as a result of a territorial transition under Clause 1 a period of acclimatisation to their new reality, in terms of the change of jurisdiction that they have been subjected to:

    1. This period will be of a fair length, and grant the inhabitant in question enough time to integrate in their new nation; and

    2. In cases where the inhabitant requests aid and/or guidance in their legal integration into the new jurisdiction, this assistance will be provided without charge, by the state; and

    3. During this period, these inhabitants should be judged with a reasonable amount of clemency in mind where appropriate and necessary, should they fail to comply with the laws and rules of their new jurisdiction because of genuine legal ignorance; and

    4. Clause 4c does not apply to inhabitants who could have reasonably known about the existence of a law or rule in their new jurisdiction, or through the use of common sense;

  6. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of inhabitants affected by territorial transitions as per Clause 1 will not be unduly infringed upon as a result of the transference of territories.


DRAFT 4:
Protecting Inhabitants During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware of the territorial transitions between member states as part of trade agreements, or other diplomatic proceedings;

Affirming that it is the right of sovereign states to manage their territory in a manner that they see fit; yet

Concerned about the fate of the inhabitants that live on the lands that are affected by those territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Mandates member states to ensure that inhabitants affected by territorial transitions as a result of economic or diplomatic proceedings without armed conflict or the the threat of such preceding them, will be properly aided and guided in the change of jurisdiction that they will be subjected to, in the following way:

    1. Inhabitants who reside within the territory that will be transitioned to another sovereign entity, will be extensively and in detail informed on the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain, and/or lose as a result of the territorial transition;

    2. No knowledge or information on the jurisdictional changes that inhabitants will be subjected to may be withheld from those affected by a territorial purchase and/or sale, especially when an inhabitant may be negatively impacted by a territorial transition of the aforementioned kind;

    3. Any information that may otherwise impact the inhabitants of member states who will be subjected to a territorial transition as described in Clause 1, either negatively or positively, will be shared with those inhabitants without interference or obstruction;

  2. Requires member states to grant inhabitants who would be affected by a territorial transition as outlined in Clause 1 the right to relocate to another part of their nation suitable for civilian habitation, should that inhabitant be unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state concurrently with the territorial transition itself;

  3. Instructs member states to assist inhabitants who would choose to relocate to a different part of their country as a result of their right as stated in Clause 2, in the event that those inhabitants would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of the relocation;

  4. Clarifies that in cases of mass relocation as a result of territorial transitions as specified under Clause 1, which would cause a nation to be overwhelmed in terms of housing and the fulfillment of inhabitants' basic needs, the latter's rights as granted by Clauses 2 and 3 can be temporarily waived, and resolved through other suitable, temporary measures, until the nation in question has mitigated its overwhelmed state.

  5. Further requires member states to grant inhabitants who have had their citizenship or right to residence transferred as a result of a territorial transition under Clause 1 a period of acclimatisation to their new reality, in terms of the change of jurisdiction that they have been subjected to:

    1. This period will be of a fair length, and grant the inhabitant in question enough time to integrate in their new nation;

    2. In cases where the inhabitant requests aid and/or guidance in their legal integration into the new jurisdiction, this assistance will be provided without charge, by the state;

    3. During this period, these inhabitants should be judged with a reasonable amount of clemency in mind where appropriate and necessary, should they fail to comply with the laws and rules of their new jurisdiction because of genuine legal ignorance;

    4. Clause 4c does not apply to inhabitants who could have reasonably known about the existence of a law or rule in their new jurisdiction, or through the use of common sense;

  6. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of inhabitants affected by territorial transitions as per Clause 1 will not be unduly infringed upon as a result of the transference of territories.


DRAFT 3:
Protecting Citizens During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware of the territorial transitions between member states as part of trade agreements, or other diplomatic proceedings;

Affirming that it is the right of sovereign states to manage their territory in a manner that they see fit; yet

Concerned about the fate of the citizens that live on the lands that are affected by those territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Mandates member states to ensure that citizens affected by territorial transitions as a result of economic or diplomatic proceedings without armed conflict or the the threat of such preceding them, will be properly aided and guided in the change of jurisdiction that they will be subjected to, in the following way:

    1. Citizens who reside within the territory that will be transitioned to another sovereign entity, will be extensively and in detail informed on the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain, and/or lose as a result of the territorial transition;

    2. No knowledge or information on the jurisdictional changes that citizens will be subjected to may be withheld from those affected by a territorial purchase and/or sale, especially when a citizen may be negatively impacted by a territorial transition of the aforementioned kind;

    3. Any information that may otherwise impact the citizens of member states who will be subjected to a territorial transition as described in Clause 1, either negatively or positively, will be shared with those citizens without interference or obstruction;

  2. Requires member states to grant citizens who would be affected by a territorial transition as outlined in Clause 1 the right to relocate to another part of their nation suitable for civilian habitation, should that citizen be unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state concurrently with the territorial transition itself;

  3. Instructs member states to assist citizens who would choose to relocate to a different part of their country as a result of their right as stated in Clause 2, in the event that those citizens would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of the relocation;

  4. Further requires member states to grant citizens who have had their citizenship transferred as a result of a territorial transition under Clause 1 a period of acclimatisation to their new reality, in terms of the change of jurisdiction that they have been subjected to:

    1. This period will be of a fair length, and grant the citizen in question enough time to integrate in their new nation;

    2. In cases where the citizen requests aid and/or guidance in their legal integration into the new jurisdiction, this assistance will be provided without charge, by the state;

    3. During this period, these citizens should be judged with a reasonable amount of clemency in mind where appropriate and necessary, should they fail to comply with the laws and rules of their new jurisdiction because of genuine legal ignorance;

    4. Clause 4c does not apply to citizens who could have reasonably known about the existence of a law or rule in their new jurisdiction, or through the use of common sense;

  5. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of citizens affected by territorial transitions as per Clause 1 will not be unduly infringed upon as a result of the transference of territories.


DRAFT 2:
Protecting Citizens During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Mild



The General Assembly,

Aware of the transactions between member states that result in the transition of territories between them;

Affirming that it is the right of sovereign states to manage their territory in a manner that they see fit; yet

Concerned about the fate of the citizens that live on the lands that are affected by those territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Mandates member states to ensure that citizens affected by territorial transitions as a result of territorial purchases and/or sales will be properly aided and guided in the change of jurisdiction that they will be subjected to, in the following way:

    1. Citizens who reside within the territory that will be either sold to or purchased by another sovereign entity, will be extensively and in detail informed on the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain, and/or lose as a result of the territorial transition;

    2. No knowledge or information on the jurisdictional changes that citizens will be subjected to may be withheld from those affected by a territorial purchase and/or sale, especially when a citizen may be negatively impacted by a territorial transition of the aforementioned kind;

    3. Any information that may otherwise impact the citizens of member states who will be subjected to a territorial transition as a result of territorial purchases and/or sales, either negatively or positively, will be shared with those citizens without interference or obstruction;

  2. Requires member states to grant citizens who would be affected by a territorial transition as outlined in Clause 1 the right to relocate to another part of their nation suitable for civilian habitation, should that citizen be unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state concurrently with the territorial transition itself;

  3. Instructs member states to assist citizens who would choose to relocate to a different part of their country as a result of their right as stated in Clause 2, in the event that those citizens would be unable to see to their basic needs as a result of the relocation;

  4. Further requires member states to grant citizens who have had their citizenship transferred as a result of a territorial transition under Clause 1 a period of acclimatisation to their new reality, in terms of the change of jurisdiction that they have been subjected to:

    1. This period will be of a fair length, and grant the citizen in question enough time to integrate in their new nation;

    2. In cases where the citizen requests aid and/or guidance in their legal integration into the new jurisdiction, this assistance will be provided without charge, by the state;

    3. During this period, these citizens should be judged with a reasonable amount of clemency in mind where appropriate and necessary, should they fail to comply with the laws and rules of their new jurisdiction because of genuine legal ignorance;

    4. Clause 4c does not apply to citizens who could have reasonably known about the existence of a law or rule in their new jurisdiction, or through the use of common sense;

  5. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of citizens affected by territorial transitions as per Clause 1 will be preserved and maintained at all times during the transference of territories, and in the integrational period thereafter.


DRAFT 1:
Protecting Citizens During Territorial Transitions
Category: Civil Rights | Strength: Significant



The General Assembly,

Aware of the transactions between member states that result in the transition of territories between them;

Affirming that it is the right of sovereign states to manage their territory in a manner that they see fit; yet

Concerned about the fate of the citizens that live on the lands that are affected by those territorial transitions;

Hereby:

  1. Mandates member states to ensure that citizens affected by territorial transitions as a result of territorial purchases and/or sales will be properly aided and guided in the change of their civil and political rights and responsibilities, in the following way:

    1. Citizens who reside within the territory that will be either sold to or purchased by another sovereign entity, will be extensively and in detail informed on the rights and responsibilities that they will obtain, and/or lose as a result of the territorial transition;

    2. No knowledge or information on the gains or losses of civil and political rights may be withheld from the citizens affected by a territorial purchase and/or sale, especially when a citizen may be negatively impacted by a territorial transition of the aforementioned kind;

    3. Any information that may otherwise impact the citizens of member states who will be subjected to a territorial transition as a result of territorial purchases and/or sales, either negatively or positively, will be shared with those citizens without interference or obstruction;

  2. Requires member states to grant citizens who would be affected by a territorial transition as outlined in Clause 1 the right to freely relocate to another part of their nation, should that citizen be unwilling to have their citizenship be transferred to another sovereign state concurrently with the territorial transition itself;

  3. Instructs member states to ensure that citizens who choose to relocate to a different part of their country as a result of their right as stated in Clause 2, will be granted habitation and living conditions of a similar nature as the ones they had prior to the process of territorial transition;

  4. Further requires member states to grant citizens who have had their citizenship transferred as a result of a territorial transition under Clause 1 a period of acclimatisation to their new reality, in terms of their civil and political rights and responsibilities:

    1. This period will be of a fair length, and grant the citizen in question enough time to integrate in their new nation;

    2. During this period, these citizens must be judged with clemency in mind, should they fail to comply with a civil or political duty or responsibility that they previously had or did not have;

  5. Orders member states to ensure that the safety and wellbeing of citizens affected by territorial transitions as per Clause 1 will be preserved and maintained at all times.

sure i supported this but i think this doesn't belong to the "civil rights" category

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Postby Daarwyrth » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:34 am

Zarulia wrote:sure i supported this but i think this doesn't belong to the "civil rights" category

OOC: Considering that this proposal grants rights and freedoms to civilians, and limits the freedoms of the government, yes, the category is correct :)
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Postby The Order of Makai » Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:50 am

From the desk of His Holiness, Grand Crusader Dathrohan:

This resolution seems both overly reaching and yet overly focused.

This resolution; while on its face seems to solely concern Territorial Transitions that have transpired due to diplomatic, political, and economic agreements; does not correctly limit itself to those definitions, as it does not specify that these are the only situations under which Territorial Transitions may occur.

The case in point, being Territorial Transitions occurring from conquest, military occupations, policing actions, and numerous other situations involving force or military force.

To posit that the victor may be restricted from how they choose to handle their spoils of war and even may be forced to manage them in a way which is unfavorable to them is unenforceable madness that would see the conquered suffer from "creative" means of complying with the letter of this law. Vae Victis exists to permit more leeway in how a conqueror may treat with their new subjects, and while the possibility for brutality is always there, attempting to illogically force a different manner of conduct will not permit a median area to exist between the extremes of benevolence and brutality. Vae Victis indeed.

Further unclear areas also include Territories seceding from their former state, Territories defecting to another power, and Territories being granted independence either due to being granted it or due to the demise of their previous overlord.

The lack of such foresight in the language also brings to mind the possibilities of further oversights and loopholes existing within this text, as this bill stands, it is laughable and needs to be redrafted to narrowly and specifically define itself.

Even when allowing for the faint possibility, that the original language of this resolution is accounting for these situations, the very contents of this resolution contradict the stated intent of this resolution, chiefly, they contradict:
Affirming that sovereign states have the right to manage their territory as they see fit,

If such an affirmation were actually held to through the stipulations of this resolution, then the entire bill would be different, as the stipulations themselves affect the ways in which sovereign states may manage their territories. Even if the intent was to "protect" the people of an affected territory, it is a self-contradiction with that aforementioned affirmation, as territories themselves are not merely pieces of land and the resources they contain, but also the people to.

Stating that sovereign states may manage their territory as they see fit, and then placing restrictions on how they manage said territories' [citizenry] is hypocritical at best.

To summarize, this bill is poorly worded, exploitable, and ill-conceived.

The Order rejects this resolution.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am

The Order of Makai wrote:The Order rejects this resolution.

Vyn Nysen: "There are other resolutions in place that dictate what WA members can and can't do during warfare with occupied or acquired territories, resolutions that your nation was bound by when it joined the organisation. This proposal does not deal with warfare, as in the definition it clearly states it involves only territorial transitions from economic, political or diplomatic proceedings. I encourage the delegation from the Order to reread this proposal thoroughly once more, as well as the already existing resolutions on warfare and wartime, as your current interpretation is woefully incorrect. This proposal openly states in its preamble that it is primarily concerned with the wellbeing of inhabitants. That concern does not exclude the affirmation that sovereign states are free to manage their territory in regards to territorial transitions. If your Order wants to sell or transfer its territories, you are absolutely free to do so. Yet you will have to take into account the wellbeing of your inhabitants that live on those lands once this proposal passes.

It is a pity the Order has chosen to reject the proposal by voting against it, yet this decision seems to have been made on the basis of an incorrect interpretation of the text. I highly encourage a rereading and reinterpretation."
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Postby Sylh Alanor » Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:32 am

"Dame van Nysen, the primary concern for the Alanori in this proposal is the following line in the preamble, which you have just restated for the previous speaker.

Affirming that sovereign states have the right to manage their territory as they see fit


"Like Grand Crusader Dathrohan, we are concerned that this statement creates a stance within the World Assembly against independence movements or separatist regions within a country. Stating the sovereign state has the right to manage their territory as they see fit seems to muddy those waters. Is this the intention, was it an oversight, or is it as intended but we have misread?"
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Postby Daarwyrth » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:14 am

Sylh Alanor wrote:"Dame van Nysen, the primary concern for the Alanori in this proposal is the following line in the preamble, which you have just restated for the previous speaker.

Affirming that sovereign states have the right to manage their territory as they see fit


"Like Grand Crusader Dathrohan, we are concerned that this statement creates a stance within the World Assembly against independence movements or separatist regions within a country. Stating the sovereign state has the right to manage their territory as they see fit seems to muddy those waters. Is this the intention, was it an oversight, or is it as intended but we have misread?"

Vyn Nysen: "The line in question refers to the transfer of territory. It is not meant to thwart any independence movements or separatist regions. In the context of the preamble, it is written to state that a sovereign state can transfer its territory however it sees fit. A sovereign state should be able to do that, of course. It is by no means a stance on independence or separatist movements. Our delegation has touched that subject before with the proposal draft to allow for independence referendums for territories that wish to secede. It was received with criticism. As such, we have no desire to burn our fingers on that subject again.

Furthermore, the line is part of the preamble, and not meant as legislation."
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I am voting FOR and for adding this right to the paragraph.

Postby Reich Hungary » Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:43 am

As for the neutral borders at the border between Two States and the state of three states, during the state of emergency, the UN must be sent to the borders of the medias to protect it during Martial Law. Not legally crossing the limits of the mandate of 500 to pay and increasing the state income and the United Nations with a tax for not paying for it will be forfeited from membership of the United Nations for 2 years of imprisonment from joining the United Nations. For border protection and national security. I will vote for the addition of my law. And this right is to be included in the Security Council, this right on the two fronts of the General Assembly in a total of 2 in 1.
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Postby Reich Hungary » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:17 am

Reich Hungary wrote:As for the neutral borders at the border between Two States and the state of three states, during the state of emergency, the UN must be sent to the borders of the medias to protect it during Martial Law. Not legally crossing the limits of the mandate of 500 to pay and increasing the state income and the United Nations with a tax for not paying for it will be forfeited from membership of the United Nations for 2 years of imprisonment from joining the United Nations. For border protection and national security. I will vote for the addition of my law. And this right is to be included in the Security Council, this right on the two fronts of the General Assembly in a total of 2 in 1.

My additional amendment adds in this topic but the same remains: Schengen is to help the Border Guard Frontex and the UN.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:08 am

Reich Hungary wrote:
Reich Hungary wrote:As for the neutral borders at the border between Two States and the state of three states, during the state of emergency, the UN must be sent to the borders of the medias to protect it during Martial Law. Not legally crossing the limits of the mandate of 500 to pay and increasing the state income and the United Nations with a tax for not paying for it will be forfeited from membership of the United Nations for 2 years of imprisonment from joining the United Nations. For border protection and national security. I will vote for the addition of my law. And this right is to be included in the Security Council, this right on the two fronts of the General Assembly in a total of 2 in 1.

My additional amendment adds in this topic but the same remains: Schengen is to help the Border Guard Frontex and the UN.

OOC: I am not sure what you're talking about. This is the WA not the UN, and amendments don't work here.
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Postby Reich Hungary » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:33 am

Daarwyrth wrote:
Reich Hungary wrote:My additional amendment adds in this topic but the same remains: Schengen is to help the Border Guard Frontex and the UN.

OOC: I am not sure what you're talking about. This is the WA not the UN, and amendments don't work here.


I know ONZ = UN! I use a sentence replacement.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:27 am

Reich Hungary wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:OOC: I am not sure what you're talking about. This is the WA not the UN, and amendments don't work here.


I know ONZ = UN! I use a sentence replacement.

OOC: The World Assembly was once called the UN, yes, but the World Assembly isn't called that anymore. And amendments can't be added to already submitted proposals, or passed resolutions. If you want to change something to a resolution, you'll have to repeal it and replace it.
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"Protections During Territorial Transitions" was discarded by the WA for rule violations after garnering 8,550 votes in favor and 3,682 votes against. (69.90% support)
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