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American Politics Thread VI: Can't We All Just Get Along?

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Is it no longer possible to collaborate with political opponents at this stage?

It is no longer possible.
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It is possible.
166
25%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar economic views.
47
7%
Collaboration is possible if we have similar cultural/social views.
106
16%
Why would I collaborate with anyone? Going monke is the best way forward.
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Total votes : 653

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban


Oh that's funny. Serious comedy here.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:11 pm

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It's just a wave; it's not going to last.

Hahahahaha
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

The House has now adjourned
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:19 pm

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

The House has now adjourned

God the democrats fucking suck
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

God the democrats fucking suck

Weak and spineless, you have the majority in the House and you can't even pass it? Fucking pathetic.

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Postby Duvniask » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:35 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:God the democrats fucking suck

Weak and spineless, you have the majority in the House and you can't even pass it? Fucking pathetic.

Dems are setting themselves up for losing the midterms next year, although it was already likely because of the midterm loss effect.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:38 pm

Duvniask wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Weak and spineless, you have the majority in the House and you can't even pass it? Fucking pathetic.

Dems are setting themselves up for losing the midterms next year, although it was already likely because of the midterm loss effect.

it's legendary-tier self sabotage, really
like as a humanitarian story it's a tragedy, as political maneuvering it's a farce
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:41 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Sundiata wrote:It's just a wave; it's not going to last.

Hahahahaha

It's not.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:44 pm

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/565699-house-democrats-scrap-vote-on-bill-to-extend-eviction-ban

Democrats fall short of votes for extending eviction ban

The House has now adjourned

Expires tomorrow, won't meet again until August 3 if accurate.

Yaaaaaaay

/sarcasm of course
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Postby Duvniask » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:44 pm

Kowani wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Dems are setting themselves up for losing the midterms next year, although it was already likely because of the midterm loss effect.

it's legendary-tier self sabotage, really
like as a humanitarian story it's a tragedy, as political maneuvering it's a farce

And when that happens, Biden is going to get nothing, nil, zilch, nada done beyond ruling by whatever decrees he can muster... and the US is going to implode further.

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Postby Kowani » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:52 pm

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Postby Sundiata » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:55 pm

Duvniask wrote:
Kowani wrote:it's legendary-tier self sabotage, really
like as a humanitarian story it's a tragedy, as political maneuvering it's a farce

And when that happens, Biden is going to get nothing, nil, zilch, nada done beyond ruling by whatever decrees he can muster... and the US is going to implode further.

Paving the way for another Trump win.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:14 pm


So basically we're fucked.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Duvniask wrote:And when that happens, Biden is going to get nothing, nil, zilch, nada done beyond ruling by whatever decrees he can muster... and the US is going to implode further.

Paving the way for another Trump win.

I mean campaigns from prison aren't without precedent...but doubtful.
A republican win maybe.

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Postby Duvniask » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:15 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Paving the way for another Trump win.

I mean campaigns from prison aren't without precedent...but doubtful.
A republican win maybe.

Do you seriously think Trump will face actual time behind bars?

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Postby Galloism » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:18 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Paving the way for another Trump win.

I mean campaigns from prison aren't without precedent...but doubtful.
A republican win maybe.

I seriously doubt Trump is going to prison. Our reticence about prosecuting former presidents is so strong we'll probably never do it, even if he declared "you're damn right I ordered the code red!" on national TV.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Paving the way for another Trump win.

I mean campaigns from prison aren't without precedent...but doubtful.
A republican win maybe.


Kasich might be able to edge out a nom, but it's a long shot
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:30 pm

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I mean campaigns from prison aren't without precedent...but doubtful.
A republican win maybe.

I seriously doubt Trump is going to prison. Our reticence about prosecuting former presidents is so strong we'll probably never do it, even if he declared "you're damn right I ordered the code red!" on national TV.


Why do you doubt it?

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:30 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I mean campaigns from prison aren't without precedent...but doubtful.
A republican win maybe.


Kasich might be able to edge out a nom, but it's a long shot

I mean, out of the candidates who recently expressed interest, I'd say Trump has the best shot-no one will like Cruz or Gaetz. If we count Candace Owens as recent she is also likely. Out of the considered candidates, Larry Hogan and DeSantis have the best shot in my opinion. Haley and maybe Rand Paul are also possibilities, but from what I've seen of Haley in the Prager.U comments she's not well liked.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:I seriously doubt Trump is going to prison. Our reticence about prosecuting former presidents is so strong we'll probably never do it, even if he declared "you're damn right I ordered the code red!" on national TV.


Why do you doubt it?

I believe I just said why.
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Postby Duvniask » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Galloism wrote:I seriously doubt Trump is going to prison. Our reticence about prosecuting former presidents is so strong we'll probably never do it, even if he declared "you're damn right I ordered the code red!" on national TV.


Why do you doubt it?

Bro, it literally says right there in the next sentence. Come on.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:31 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I mean campaigns from prison aren't without precedent...but doubtful.
A republican win maybe.


Kasich might be able to edge out a nom, but it's a long shot


Isn't he officially a Democrat now?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:34 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Why do you doubt it?

I believe I just said why.


I don't think hes going to get off. I think he will go to jail and if he wants to run from prison by all means. It would be very interesting to see how many votes he got when he can't campaign and has a very limited campaign.

Eugene Debs did it why can't Trump?

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:36 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Kasich might be able to edge out a nom, but it's a long shot


Isn't he officially a Democrat now?

I don't think so.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:38 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Kasich might be able to edge out a nom, but it's a long shot


Isn't he officially a Democrat now?


No, but he did take a gig on CNN
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