Sol 4,000: A Character Driven Political RP in the Far Future

[Khasinkonia]

I'm interested in this, but I have a few questions:

- How old is the emperor's son?
- Does he have any other established notable relatives outside of his son and his illegitimate son?
- Is there a functional imperial court? If so, what would be the best modern comparison for how court life looks?

Thanks in advance!

The Bastard is 38 and the legitimate son is 30.
He probably does have plenty of ties to the noble houses of Earth, Mars, and Venus. I haven't gone into any detail about these houses but if you want to make a house related to the Imperial House.
Currently the court is just a constant social event with the Emperor surrounding himself with the rich and powerful. It is mostly these powerful individuals that actually have been doing the ruling since the Emperor has taken ill.

Would it be possible to do an ambitious wife to the legitimate son?

[Ameriganastan]

Is there any room for say an ambitious general looking to overthrow the system and put the military in charge?

[Ithalian Empire]

The Bastard is 38 and the legitimate son is 30.
He probably does have plenty of ties to the noble houses of Earth, Mars, and Venus. I haven't gone into any detail about these houses but if you want to make a house related to the Imperial House.
Currently the court is just a constant social event with the Emperor surrounding himself with the rich and powerful. It is mostly these powerful individuals that actually have been doing the ruling since the Emperor has taken ill.

Would it be possible to do an ambitious wife to the legitimate son?

Sure.

[Strala]

Is there any room for say an ambitious general looking to overthrow the system and put the military in charge?

We can work together! I want to make an Admiral and you want to make a general. I'm fine with military in charge if we end up making it socialist or communist

[Ameriganastan]

Is there any room for say an ambitious general looking to overthrow the system and put the military in charge?

We can work together! I want to make an Admiral and you want to make a general. I'm fine with military in charge if we end up making it socialist or communist

Sure, why not.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Is there any room for say an ambitious general looking to overthrow the system and put the military in charge?

We can work together! I want to make an Admiral and you want to make a general. I'm fine with military in charge if we end up making it socialist or communist

How would that work, ideologically speaking?

[Strala]

We can work together! I want to make an Admiral and you want to make a general. I'm fine with military in charge if we end up making it socialist or communist

How would that work, ideologically speaking?

Honestly it wouldn't. I'm still not entirely sure how I want to make my character. I doubt he would be an idealist like Mao if I do decide to make him a communist or socialist. Again the whole communist thing would probably be the end goal, and I doubt we'd publically state that we're placing the military in control.

[Strala]

Imperial Census

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Name: Liu Bao Rui
Age: 89
Place of Birth: The Free city of Nanjing, the Yangtze River Delta Megalopolis of Earth.
Appearance:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Zhou_Enlai_and_Lin_Doudou_%28cropped%29.jpg

Occupation Admiral of the Third Sol Defense Fleet; Military Governor of Neptune; Viscount of Nanjing

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Base of Power:The Second Sol Defense Fleet

The Second Sol Defense Fleet is one of the largest and one of the most advanced fleets within the entirety of the Empire. The fleet was first created by Emperor Adam Ignus who first created the Third defense fleet after combining the various fleets of the Outer Planets. During the reign of Emperor Magnus, new ships were created to enlarge the Sol Defense Fleet alone with its new task of policing the more powerful and distant vassals and planets in the Sol System. Later on, it was further expanded to rival the size of the First Sol Defense Fleet due to the paranoia of the reigning Emperor. The fleet's recruits mostly come from Jupiter, Saturn, and the Kuiper belt due to it mainly operating in said region. Its main priority is to culling the pirates in the Kuiper Belt and act as the shield against any attacks targetted against the Sol System. Due to the size of the fleet, not the entire fleet is loyal nor supports the Admiral's ideas, but a majority of the enlisted and officers are loyal to the Admiral for various reasons.

Viscount of Nanjing

The Liu family rose to prominence after the unification of the Sol System during the reign of Emperor Ignus. Liu Bao Rui's ancestor, Liu Jiajian was originally a general in the service of Emperor Adam Ignus and played a crucial part in the conquest of Jupiter and the outer planets. For his actions, Liu Jiajian was granted the hereditary title of Viscount and was given his birth city of Nanjing. Throughout the generations, the Liu family served as the viscounts and viscountesses of the city, with most members following the route of their ancestor and serving in the Imperial military and the Imperial bureaucracy.

Without the family's long history of faithfully serving the Empire as military and civil officials, along with the numerous connections that the members of the family made, it is unlikely that the current Viscount of Nanjing would be able to obtain the powerful and prestigious title of Admiral of the Second Sol Defense Fleet.

Goals: The Admiral privately wishes to destroy the current political system that dominates the Empire through peaceful or violent means. He has been greatly inspired by banned texts such as the Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong and the Communistic Manifesto and ultimately wishes for a communist society to replace the current Empire. Publically, he has thrown his support behind the legitimate son of the Emperor due to the fleet's proximity to Earth


TBH this is sort. I plan on adding more in IC and if you don't mind can I ask what is the size of the Imperial Fleet? What are the sizes of ships? What are the weapons used on ships? What are the crew sizes? I plan on making ship types and an ORBAT soon

[Khasinkonia]

Would it be possible to do an ambitious wife to the legitimate son?

Sure.

If you have any more information, such as the name and some other personality and appearance details of the legitimate son, I would much appreciate it.

[Ithalian Empire]

Sure.

If you have any more information, such as the name and some other personality and appearance details of the legitimate son, I would much appreciate it.

Okay, the legitimate son is named Maximilian Ignus the Fifth. He is in the minds of many common folk the perfect picture of what an emperor should be. Tall, athletic and would be considered handsome by many. However he is not someone you would want to be in charge of anything. He is a vain vapid man who's thoughts only project so far as himself and his own needs.


Your married to a man child.

[Khasinkonia]

If you have any more information, such as the name and some other personality and appearance details of the legitimate son, I would much appreciate it.

Okay, the legitimate son is named Maximilian Ignus the Fifth. He is in the minds of many common folk the perfect picture of what an emperor should be. Tall, athletic and would be considered handsome by many. However he is not someone you would want to be in charge of anything. He is a vain vapid man who's thoughts only project so far as himself and his own needs.


Your married to a man child.

Lovely. I think I have a good idea for the ol’ ball and chain then.

[Ithalian Empire]

Okay, the legitimate son is named Maximilian Ignus the Fifth. He is in the minds of many common folk the perfect picture of what an emperor should be. Tall, athletic and would be considered handsome by many. However he is not someone you would want to be in charge of anything. He is a vain vapid man who's thoughts only project so far as himself and his own needs.


Your married to a man child.

Lovely. I think I have a good idea for the ol’ ball and chain then.

Epic. Ill get apps out for both sons just to make it easier.

[Strala]

Lovely. I think I have a good idea for the ol’ ball and chain then.

Epic. Ill get apps out for both sons just to make it easier.

Uh am I accepted? I'm flexible about where the fleet will be located. I couldn't think of anything other than Sol so that's why I choose it. What about my questions? Sorry if I'm being rude

[Everhall]

Tag

[Ithalian Empire]

Imperial Census

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Name: Liu Bao Rui
Age: 89
Place of Birth: The Free city of Nanjing, the Yangtze River Delta Megalopolis of Earth.
Appearance:

(Image)

Occupation Admiral of the Third Sol Defense Fleet; Military Governor of Neptune

---

Base of Power:The Second Sol Defense Fleet

The Second Sol Defense Fleet is one of the largest and one of the most advanced fleets within the entirety of the Empire. The fleet was first created by Emperor Adam Ignus who first created the Third defense fleet after combining the various fleets of the Outer Planets. During the reign of Emperor Magnus, new ships were created to enlarge the Sol Defense Fleet alone with its new task of policing the more powerful and distant vassals and planets in the Sol System. Later on, it was further expanded to rival the size of the First Sol Defense Fleet due to the paranoia of the reigning Emperor. The fleet's recruits mostly come from Jupiter, Saturn, and the Kuiper belt due to it mainly operating in said region. Its main priority is to culling the pirates in the Kuiper Belt and act as the shield against any attacks targetted against the Sol System. Due to the size of the fleet, not the entire fleet is loyal nor supports the Admiral's ideas, but a majority of the enlisted and officers are loyal to the Admiral for various reasons.

Goals: The Admiral privately wishes to destroy the current political system that dominates the Empire through peaceful or violent means. He has been greatly inspired by banned texts such as the Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong and the Communistic Manifesto and ultimately wishes for a communist society to replace the current Empire. Publically, he has thrown his support behind the legitimate son of the Emperor due to the fleet's proximity to Earth


TBH this is sort. I plan on adding more in IC and if you don't mind can I ask what is the size of the Imperial Fleet? What are the sizes of ships? What are the weapons used on ships? What are the crew sizes? I plan on making ship types and an ORBAT soon

I'll be honest, I didn't really want to have to make a bunch of ship designations because I kinda find that kind of worldbuilding dull. The Imperial Fleet is large, large enough to fuck up most of the various vassals and the like if they need to. I am going with a whole idea that the largest of Imperial ships is around a kilometer in length and crewed by 1,200 people. The smallest ships would be at most 50 meters long and crewed by around 20 people. Imperial weapons are pretty much all rail weapons with prow mounted energy weapons.

[Strala]

Imperial Census

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Name: Liu Bao Rui
Age: 89
Place of Birth: The Free city of Nanjing, the Yangtze River Delta Megalopolis of Earth.
Appearance:

(Image)

Occupation Admiral of the Third Sol Defense Fleet; Military Governor of Neptune

---

Base of Power:The Second Sol Defense Fleet

The Second Sol Defense Fleet is one of the largest and one of the most advanced fleets within the entirety of the Empire. The fleet was first created by Emperor Adam Ignus who first created the Third defense fleet after combining the various fleets of the Outer Planets. During the reign of Emperor Magnus, new ships were created to enlarge the Sol Defense Fleet alone with its new task of policing the more powerful and distant vassals and planets in the Sol System. Later on, it was further expanded to rival the size of the First Sol Defense Fleet due to the paranoia of the reigning Emperor. The fleet's recruits mostly come from Jupiter, Saturn, and the Kuiper belt due to it mainly operating in said region. Its main priority is to culling the pirates in the Kuiper Belt and act as the shield against any attacks targetted against the Sol System. Due to the size of the fleet, not the entire fleet is loyal nor supports the Admiral's ideas, but a majority of the enlisted and officers are loyal to the Admiral for various reasons.

Goals: The Admiral privately wishes to destroy the current political system that dominates the Empire through peaceful or violent means. He has been greatly inspired by banned texts such as the Quotations from Chairman Mao Zedong and the Communistic Manifesto and ultimately wishes for a communist society to replace the current Empire. Publically, he has thrown his support behind the legitimate son of the Emperor due to the fleet's proximity to Earth


TBH this is sort. I plan on adding more in IC and if you don't mind can I ask what is the size of the Imperial Fleet? What are the sizes of ships? What are the weapons used on ships? What are the crew sizes? I plan on making ship types and an ORBAT soon

I'll be honest, I didn't really want to have to make a bunch of ship designations because I kinda find that kind of worldbuilding dull. The Imperial Fleet is large, large enough to fuck up most of the various vassals and the like if they need to. I am going with a whole idea that the largest of Imperial ships is around a kilometer in length and crewed by 1,200 people. The smallest ships would be at most 50 meters long and crewed by around 20 people. Imperial weapons are pretty much all rail weapons with prow mounted energy weapons.

Okay. I'm not the most experienced but can I try to do some for you?

[The Twelve Isles]

I'll be honest, I didn't really want to have to make a bunch of ship designations because I kinda find that kind of worldbuilding dull. The Imperial Fleet is large, large enough to fuck up most of the various vassals and the like if they need to. I am going with a whole idea that the largest of Imperial ships is around a kilometer in length and crewed by 1,200 people. The smallest ships would be at most 50 meters long and crewed by around 20 people. Imperial weapons are pretty much all rail weapons with prow mounted energy weapons.

Okay. I'm not the most experienced but can I try to do some for you?

I also have done a pretty good amount of world building in my time, including militarily. (The Twelve Isles is after all an island nation, necessitating a strong navy.)

So I got a solid understanding of ship classifications of the past and present, and I'm sure I cant help figure out how that would translate into the future.

[Ithalian Empire]

Okay. I'm not the most experienced but can I try to do some for you?

I also have done a pretty good amount of world building in my time, including militarily. (The Twelve Isles is after all an island nation, necessitating a strong navy.)

So I got a solid understanding of ship classifications of the past and present, and I'm sure I cant help figure out how that would translate into the future.

If you guys want to I wont stop you.

[Strala]

Okay. I'm not the most experienced but can I try to do some for you?

I also have done a pretty good amount of world building in my time, including militarily. (The Twelve Isles is after all an island nation, necessitating a strong navy.)

So I got a solid understanding of ship classifications of the past and present, and I'm sure I cant help figure out how that would translate into the future.

Oh I'm fine with classifications. I just have no idea how exactly I can translate that over into space combat. I mean with this size I guess carriers are probably still going to reign supreme. But the carriers will probably be more heavily armored and armed. Or we can go really old school and bring back the battleship.

[Bentus]

Oh I'm fine with classifications. I just have no idea how exactly I can translate that over into space combat. I mean with this size I guess carriers are probably still going to reign supreme. But the carriers will probably be more heavily armored and armed.

It really depends on how hard/realistic we want to go. If we just want to go for space opera vibes, we can mostly handwave/ignore physics and just port over historical naval combat. Though if folks want to go for a more hard sci-fi approach, things get a lot more dependent on what kind of in-universe technologies exist and exactly how realistic we want to be.

[The Twelve Isles]

I also have done a pretty good amount of world building in my time, including militarily. (The Twelve Isles is after all an island nation, necessitating a strong navy.)

So I got a solid understanding of ship classifications of the past and present, and I'm sure I cant help figure out how that would translate into the future.

Oh I'm fine with classifications. I just have no idea how exactly I can translate that over into space combat. I mean with this size I guess carriers are probably still going to reign supreme. But the carriers will probably be more heavily armored and armed. Or we can go really old school and bring back the battleship.

Realistically, I've always thought a good way to think about it is to work off of how we think of things.

Small ships, like what we would think of as corvettes or whatever, are usually used for missions that are closer to the shore, and would struggle or even be completely unable to go into open water. So from a more sci fi/space oriented thought process, we can assume that ships like that (the ones which are only around 50 meters long with a crew of about 20 people as Ithalia said,) would probably translate very well into being delegated to things like anti piracy actions and policing inside star systems, as they dont have the fuel or some other sorta excuse to follow massive ships into war outside of their systems. We can argue about weather or not we would even want to include frigates, considering that in our world destroyers, frigates and battleships have all pretty much coalesced into the single classification of "destroyer."

I personally am very fond of the concept of the supercarrier as a massive, incredibly powerful ship which can essentially be used to anchor an entire fleet around and capable of carrying other ships as well as massive fighter wings. But, with the limits Ithalia has put on size, it seems unlikely that supercarriers will be able to come into play.

Other than that though, I think we can play it super fast and loose with the types of ships we're gonna be seeing. I think the idea of combining battleships and carriers could be a cool concept, sorta like what we see in Star Wars, where the most powerful capital ships are capable of fielding large troop formations for ground combat, fighter wings and come equipped with massive gun batteries.

Or we could always just go with the typical sci fi thing and have classifications more describe the size of the ship rather than what it is meant to do. The old corvette, frigate, destroyer, battleship, dreadnought then carrier model. I dont know, I'm mostly just throwing ideas out here right now, I dont have any definitive end in mind, but hopefully its something that we can jump off from.

[Strala]

Hmm I this might be interesting now on the matter of the size of a fleet? How large would an Imperial fleet be? I'd assume one for a crucial system like Sol to be large enough to match the navies of some vassals, though depending on how paranoid the Emperors are, this might not be true.

[The Twelve Isles]

Hmm I this might be interesting now on the matter of the size of a fleet? How large would an Imperial fleet be? I'd assume one for a crucial system like Sol to be large enough to match the navies of some vassals, though depending on how paranoid the Emperors are, this might not be true.

I would have assumed that the Sol fleet would be large enough it could take multiple vassals. Or at least, that they would have had enough ships readily able to respond to a threat to Sol that they could.

[Strala]

Hmm I this might be interesting now on the matter of the size of a fleet? How large would an Imperial fleet be? I'd assume one for a crucial system like Sol to be large enough to match the navies of some vassals, though depending on how paranoid the Emperors are, this might not be true.

I would have assumed that the Sol fleet would be large enough it could take multiple vassals. Or at least, that they would have had enough ships readily able to respond to a threat to Sol that they could.

Probably. What's going to be the size of your navy?

[The GAmeTopians]

Oh I'm fine with classifications. I just have no idea how exactly I can translate that over into space combat. I mean with this size I guess carriers are probably still going to reign supreme. But the carriers will probably be more heavily armored and armed.

It really depends on how hard/realistic we want to go. If we just want to go for space opera vibes, we can mostly handwave/ignore physics and just port over historical naval combat. Though if folks want to go for a more hard sci-fi approach, things get a lot more dependent on what kind of in-universe technologies exist and exactly how realistic we want to be.

I'm more in favor of the space opera side of things, honestly. I don't have enough time in my day to be debating hard sci-fi

Hmm I this might be interesting now on the matter of the size of a fleet? How large would an Imperial fleet be? I'd assume one for a crucial system like Sol to be large enough to match the navies of some vassals, though depending on how paranoid the Emperors are, this might not be true.

I would have assumed that the Sol fleet would be large enough it could take multiple vassals. Or at least, that they would have had enough ships readily able to respond to a threat to Sol that they could.

Perhaps that would be true in the Empire's prime - but with the weakening of the Emperor's position, vassals have become stronger and stronger in their own right, to the point that there may well be vassals (or at least one) who could stand up to the Imperial Fleet in a 1v1.