by Page » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:33 am
by Major-Tom » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:09 pm
by Austreylia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:22 am
by Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:01 am
Austreylia wrote:These days, HIV-preventative measures would probably be seen as some kind of malicious targeting of homosexuals.
by Austreylia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:18 am
Grave_n_idle wrote:Austreylia wrote:These days, HIV-preventative measures would probably be seen as some kind of malicious targeting of homosexuals.
With good reason. I don't know if you're old enough to remember, but that's how the (IRL) response to HIV happened - it was portrayed as a 'gay' disease (literally, it was first colloquially known as GRID - Gay-Related Immune Deficiency) and the immediate response was to basically target gay men. It was only once data started rolling in and it became clear that the disease wasn't (as was previously assumed) limited to the gay male population that we started to get a more mature response.
by Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:19 am
Austreylia wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:
With good reason. I don't know if you're old enough to remember, but that's how the (IRL) response to HIV happened - it was portrayed as a 'gay' disease (literally, it was first colloquially known as GRID - Gay-Related Immune Deficiency) and the immediate response was to basically target gay men. It was only once data started rolling in and it became clear that the disease wasn't (as was previously assumed) limited to the gay male population that we started to get a more mature response.
It's not limited to gays, of course. Everybody knows that.
But it does effect them disproportionately. I wonder why that is.
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:38 am
by Kubra » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:12 am
sure, if you call it "gay sex" instead of "unprotected anal intercourse with greater risk to the receiving partner".Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:
Re-read my post.
His post still stands. If the government started telling gay men "wear condoms so you don't die from this new disease which we have discovered is most often transmitted by gay sex and reusing hypodermic needles." The response of modern society would be to ostracized the scientists, call them homophobic, demand they lose their jobs, and claim condoms cause hiv.
by Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:29 am
by Grave_n_idle » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:21 am
Ethel mermania wrote:The widespread start of aids was in the gay community. Again NYC was the epicenter of the disease in the states. Some of the earliest attempts at stopping the disease was closing the gay bath houses in the city. It wasn't till later that blood transmissions were identified as to how the disease spread, and then a better understanding of what was happening came about
by Tinhampton » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:23 am
by Saiwania » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:07 am
by Mercatus » Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:16 am
by The Alma Mater » Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:23 am
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:
Re-read my post.
His post still stands. If the government started telling gay men "wear condoms so you don't die from this new disease which we have discovered is most often transmitted by gay sex and reusing hypodermic needles." The response of modern society would be to ostracized the scientists, call them homophobic, demand they lose their jobs, and claim condoms cause hiv.
by The New California Republic » Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:38 am
Page wrote:The following conditions apply:
- HIV is already inside your country and most countries of the world and the scientific community is in agreement that total eradication of the virus is impossible. Contact tracing will only have limited efficacy.
- You have all the knowledge about how the virus is spread as in the IRL present.
- You also have IRL present testing capabilities.
- But here's the catch: No drugs made after 1986 exist. Antiretrovirals and inhibitors are entirely theoretical and there is no way of knowing how well they might work.
- Covid doesn't exist in this reality
What do you do?
by Ethel mermania » Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:59 am
The Alma Mater wrote:Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:His post still stands. If the government started telling gay men "wear condoms so you don't die from this new disease which we have discovered is most often transmitted by gay sex and reusing hypodermic needles." The response of modern society would be to ostracized the scientists, call them homophobic, demand they lose their jobs, and claim condoms cause hiv.
Do note that nowadays gays are not the main spreaders of HIV anymore. It is unclear to me if that is the same in the hypothetical.
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