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Countesia
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Postby Countesia » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:46 pm

Metakix wrote:this resolution is a s**t on free speech


Using free speech to be the worst possible person to exist is also a s**t on free speech

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Postby WayNeacTia » Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:52 pm

Metakix wrote:this resolution is a s**t on free speech

Wow.... A comment from a five hour old nation claiming the banning of fascism is shitting on free speech? Just who's puppet might you be?
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:48 am

Congratulations Cormac, a very well written piece of work that got the support it deserved. A fitting choice for the first SC Declaration to be passed.

Edit: and I see that we already have two very poor attempts to repeal it. Predictable.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:16 am

Congratulations on passing the first Declaration.

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Postby Jedinsto » Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:06 pm

As Sedge said but also congratulations on making the first SC declaration being against fascism.

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Metakix
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Postby Metakix » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:33 pm

Wayneactia wrote:
Metakix wrote:this resolution is a s**t on free speech

Wow.... A comment from a five hour old nation claiming the banning of fascism is shitting on free speech? Just who's puppet might you be?

it I told you, I might get blacklisted

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Postby WayNeacTia » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:22 am

Metakix wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Wow.... A comment from a five hour old nation claiming the banning of fascism is shitting on free speech? Just who's puppet might you be?

it I told you, I might get blacklisted

Son, you are already blacklisted for making that comment in the first place, so it really wont change anything.
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Postby Religious Lennox » Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:31 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Metakix wrote:it I told you, I might get blacklisted

Son, you are already blacklisted for making that comment in the first place, so it really wont change anything.

I've already found the person behind this.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=44561774

So it makes no difference to use a puppet anyways Community Nation/METAKIX

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Postby Picairn » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:54 am

Religious Lennox wrote:I've already found the person behind this.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=44561774

So it makes no difference to use a puppet anyways Community Nation/METAKIX

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Lol.
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Postby Team Lennox » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:53 am

Metakix wrote:this resolution is a s**t on free speech

This is coming from a nation that has a puppet currently residing in a fascist region, whom one of the two previous regions have been banished for glorifying Nazism, Adolf Hitler, and had a Nazi-like flag. Fascism and Nazism are way different from democracy and free speech.
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Postby Metakix » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:17 pm

Religious Lennox wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:Son, you are already blacklisted for making that comment in the first place, so it really wont change anything.

I've already found the person behind this.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=44561774

So it makes no difference to use a puppet anyways Community Nation/METAKIX

Community Nation is one of my puppets yes but it is not my main nation

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Postby New Mordka » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:13 pm

this site is so content of the persecution of fascism that the Security Council is needed to do Antifa's work for them

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Postby Community Nation » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:23 pm

Picairn wrote:
Religious Lennox wrote:I've already found the person behind this.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=44561774

So it makes no difference to use a puppet anyways Community Nation/METAKIX

Region: Successor to a fash region that was cleared by the mods.

Lol.

that region is not outright fascist you bastards it is a right-wing discussion region that welcomes all right-wingers, for debates and discussions, it is of no threat to anybody.

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Postby Picairn » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:32 pm

Community Nation wrote:that region is not outright fascist you bastards it is a right-wing discussion region that welcomes all right-wingers, for debates and discussions, it is of no threat to anybody.

You: "it is a right-wing discussion region, of no threat to anybody".

Region: "This region is the successor of Farkasfalka (2017-2021)".

RMB: Hosts literal fascists, some got DEATed by the mods, one post openly refers to each other as "fellow fascists" and another goes on a long rant about "rebuilding the fascist communities into a potent force".
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:55 pm

Community Nation wrote:that region is not outright fascist you bastards

Knock it off with the flaming and take a moment to review the site rules.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:06 pm

Community Nation wrote:
Picairn wrote:Region: Successor to a fash region that was cleared by the mods.

Lol.

that region is not outright fascist you bastards it is a right-wing discussion region that welcomes all right-wingers, for debates and discussions, it is of no threat to anybody.

ok fascist
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Postby New Mordka » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:10 pm

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Community Nation wrote:that region is not outright fascist you bastards it is a right-wing discussion region that welcomes all right-wingers, for debates and discussions, it is of no threat to anybody.

ok fascist
Community Nation isn't at all fascist by the looks of it

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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:39 pm

New Mordka wrote:
Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:ok fascist
Community Nation isn't at all fascist by the looks of it

They're in a fascist region. Why do you guys even try and hide it? It's really obvious.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:34 pm

New Mordka wrote:
Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:ok fascist
Community Nation isn't at all fascist by the looks of it

Says the fascist who just relocated from The Great Alliance of Fascist Nations.
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:39 am

And here we have people ready branding each and every single person fascists. Fascinating.
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:41 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:And here we have people ready branding each and every single person fascists. Fascinating.

A little bit of digging and you'll find that all of these people reside(d) in fascist regions.
Pro: Direct democracy, e-democracy, parliamentary sovereignty, state secularism, non-violent direct action (striking), police reform, syndicalism, democratic workplace management
Anti: Most types of representative democracy, ultra-nationalism, imperialism, autocratic workplace management, the state

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Laka Strolistandiler
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:45 am

Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:And here we have people ready branding each and every single person fascists. Fascinating.

A little bit of digging and you'll find that all of these people reside(d) in fascist regions.

And? I once resided in an LGBTQ friendly region (big mistake on my side), but this doesn’t mean that I support pride. Judging people based on this is a little bit wrong IMHO
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I am not a Russian but a Cameroonian born in this POS.
An autocratic semi feudal monarchy with elements of aristocracy. Society absurdly hierarchical, cosplaying Edwardian Britain. A British-ish colonial empire incorporating some partially democratic nations who just want some WMD’s
Pronouns up to your choice I can be a girl if I want to so refer to me as she/her.
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Black Hawks Matter
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Postby Black Hawks Matter » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:48 am

I support the crushing of the fascists through this Security Council proposal. Even though this is an online game, taking a stand, even in an online game, against fascists, can help prevent the rise of fascists in real life. It will show the fascists who's boss and teach them the correct beliefs. The next Hitler or Mussolini or Donald Trump could be on NS, and he (or she) could read the passed SC resolution and be convinced to change their ways. If you don't support this resolution, maybe you support fascism? Read the People's History of the United States.
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Laka Strolistandiler
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:54 am

Black Hawks Matter wrote:I support the crushing of the fascists through this Security Council proposal. Even though this is an online game, taking a stand, even in an online game, against fascists, can help prevent the rise of fascists in real life. It will show the fascists who's boss and teach them the correct beliefs. The next Hitler or Mussolini or Donald Trump could be on NS, and he (or she) could read the passed SC resolution and be convinced to change their ways. If you don't support this resolution, maybe you support fascism? Read the People's History of the United States.

Except that it does the opposite- it portrays the fascists in a way that allows them to use their “we are under attack” rhetoric. It doesn’t convince anyone to change their ways instead creating echo chambers where the fascists are radicalized even more. Showing people “Who is the boss” NEVER makes anyone to correct their believes, instead making them more hateful towards he supposed “boss”.
Not that I have a problem with this though as I personally while not being a fascists myself agree with them on some things and points
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I am not a Russian but a Cameroonian born in this POS.
An autocratic semi feudal monarchy with elements of aristocracy. Society absurdly hierarchical, cosplaying Edwardian Britain. A British-ish colonial empire incorporating some partially democratic nations who just want some WMD’s
Pronouns up to your choice I can be a girl if I want to so refer to me as she/her.
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Conservative Republic Of Huang
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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:55 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:A little bit of digging and you'll find that all of these people reside(d) in fascist regions.

And? I once resided in an LGBTQ friendly region (big mistake on my side), but this doesn’t mean that I support pride. Judging people based on this is a little bit wrong IMHO

There's a difference between a region with the "LGBT" tag and the region "Gay," just as there is a difference between regions with the fascist tag and the Decreeist Commonwealth, which is the successor to the former fascist region of Farks-something that was shut down by the mods for Nazism.

Further discussion probably should go in the repeal thread.
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