[PASSED] Declaration on Hippopotamuses

[Goobergunchia]

(OOC: as a tribute to the very early history of the NS-UN...)

Version 4.1

Declaration on Hippopotamuses

Category: Declaration
Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

Also aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby,
1. Reminds this organization's member-nations that although there were two unsuccessful attempts at passing Hippopotamus-related legislation in the early days of its historic precursor there is currently a total lack of extant WA legislation about Hippopotamuses (hereinafter referred to as "Hippos");

2. Affirms that no true Hippo is a "pygmy";

3. Notes that Hippos can become aggressive towards people, as well as towards other animals, without any warning;

4. Informs all of this organization's member nations that, with known maximum lengths in excess of 16 ½ feet and maximum weights [in the wild] in excess of 4'400 pounds, Hippos are really very large.

FAQ

1.
Q: Why?
A: As it says, in tribute to the verry early days of the NS-UN: "Hippos are really quite large" was a forum meme here for a long time.

(For more information on that history, see:
viewtopic.php?p=38802667#p38802667
viewtopic.php?p=38804958#p38804958
viewtopic.php?p=38806972#p38806972
viewtopic.php?p=38808084#p38808084 )

2.
Q: Is this a joke?
A: . No. It's certainly light-hearted, but I do consider the information contained worth spreading. Bear in mind that _
i/ Hippos, particularly adult males, are known for their argumentativeness. It's thought that they kill more people directly (rather than by transmitting diseases) than any other animal in RL Africa.
ii/ There is already one [RL] nation, situated outside of Africa, where the Hippopotamus is an 'invasive' species! (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippopotamus_in_Colombia )

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Declaration on Hippopotamuses

Category: Declaration
Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

Also aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby,
0. Reminds this organization's member-nations that there were two unsuccessful attempts at passing Hippopotamus-related legislation in the early days of its historic precursor;

1. Notes the lack of extant WA legislation about Hippopotamuses (hereinafter referred to as "Hippos");

1. Reminds this organization's member-nations that although there were two unsuccessful attempts at passing Hippopotamus-related legislation in the early days of its historic precursor there is currently a total lack of extant WA legislation about Hippopotamuses (hereinafter referred to as "Hippos");

2. Affirms that no true Hippo is a "pygmy";

3. Notes that Hippos can become aggressive towards people, as well as towards other animals, without any warning;

4. Informs all of this organization's member nations that, with known maximum lengths in excess of 16 ½ feet and maximum weights [in the wild] in excess of 4'400 pounds, Hippos are really very large.

Differences from third draft: Clause '0' inserted, clause about walruses dropped, measurements inserted into what is now clause '4'.

Declaration on Hippopotamuses

Category: Declaration
Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

Also aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby,
1. Notes the lack of extant WA legislation about Hippopotamuses (hereinafter referred to as "Hippos");

2. Affirms that no true Hippo is a "pygmy";

3. Declares that Hippos are far superior to Walruses;

4. Notes that Hippos can become aggressive towards people, as well as towards other animals, without any warning;

5. Informs all of this organization's member nations that Hippos are really very large.

Differences from second draft: Clauses '1' to '4' inserted, and clause '5' given its current number; clause '5' (as it now is) re-worded lightly, and re-formatted.

Declaration on Hippopotamuses

Category: Declaration
Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

Also aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby declares that Hippopotamuses are really very large.

Differences from first draft: contents of the "Aware _" & "Also Aware_" clauses switched over with each other.

Declaration on Hippopotamuses

Category: Declaration
Proposed by: Bears Armed Mission

The World Assembly,

Aware that the size of an animal can affect how easy it is for people to cope with that animal's presence,

Also aware that species of animals can differ considerably from each other in terms of their members' average and maximum sizes,

And believing that some nations' governments might benefit from possessing knowledge about certain species' average and maximum adult sizes in order to develop plans for coping with those species before any members of those species enter those nations' territories;

Hereby declares that Hippopotamuses are really very large.

[Imperium Anglorum]

Full support.

So long as you mention that there also ought to be wizardly men at crosswalks telling oncoming traffic "You shall not pass!".

[Honeydewistania]

Without this, people would not know that hippopotamuses are really very large. Full support.

[The Python]

Full support. Why not.

[Eshialand]

I originally was against the entire concept of declarations and vowed to vote against every single one of them, but hippopotamuses are an issue too big to be ignored. Full support.

[Praeceps]

I originally was against the entire concept of declarations and vowed to vote against every single one of them, but hippopotamuses are an issue too big to be ignored. Full support.

Don't fat shame the hippopotami!

[Drew Durrnil]

FULL SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!! HIPPOPOTAMUSES ARE BIG, JUST LIKE THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bears Armed]

Full support.

So long as you mention that there also ought to be wizardly men at crosswalks telling oncoming traffic "You shall not pass!".

Might not the latter perhaps be better left as the subject for a separate Declaration, which somebody else could write? I don't want to appear too greedy so forget the bread.

[TESDAI]

Hippopotamuses are indeed very large, and it needs to be known the world over. Full support.

[Fatimida]

False, hippos are small; everyone calling them big is just indoctrinated

[The Python]

False, hippos are small; everyone calling them big is just indoctrinated

Lies.

[Fatimida]

Lies.

Yes, the lie of hippos being small

[The Python]

Lies.

Yes, the lie of hippos being small

No, hippos being small is a lie.

[Dollystana]

Full support, you just made one mistake. You forgot about about pygmy hippos

[Bears Armed Mission]

Full support, you just made one mistake. You forgot about about pygmy hippos

No true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy".

[Minskiev]

But we are bigger.

[Southern Xenick]

Full support. The world cannot be deprived of this information.

[Bears Armed Mission]

Second draft posted.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

A chucke was heard within the vents as the turtle spoke up from the ceiling.

"This is clever, but it really needs to be specific. How can nations without hippopotamuses learn 'bout their size if it don't specify it?"

"Consider: 'Hereby declare hippopotamuses to be very large. Specfically, an adult hippopotamus can grow to X length in size and weight up to X pounds.""

"If y'all don't get specific, this here declaration's useless."

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Hippopotamuses are indeed very large, and it needs to be known the world over. Full support.

"True," says the ceiling turtle, "but how large? In its current form, this declaration cain't be useful to any party."

[Dollystana]

Full support, you just made one mistake. You forgot about about pygmy hippos

No true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_hippopotamus

[Bears Armed]

No true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_hippopotamus

OOC: I was referencing "no true Scotsman"...

Maybe I should state this in the proposal, so that its ending becomes

Insists that no true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy",

Hereby declares that Hippopotamuses are really very large.

?

EDIT: or would "Asserts" be better than "Insists"?

[Dollystana]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy_hippopotamus

OOC: I was referencing "no true Scotsman"...

Maybe I should state this in the proposal, so that its ending becomes

Insists that no true Hippopotamus is a "pygmy",

Hereby declares that Hippopotamuses are really very large.

?

EDIT: or would "Asserts" be better than "Insists"?

Full support.

[Durm]

Full support.

So long as you mention that there also ought to be wizardly men at crosswalks telling oncoming traffic "You shall not pass!".

Might not the latter perhaps be better left as the subject for a separate Declaration, which somebody else could write? I don't want to appear too greedy so forget the bread.

The SC,

Noting oncoming traffic,

Hereby declares that you shall not pass.

[The Hazar Amisnery]

Many scientific analyses have declared that hippopotamuses are very large and I hereby give this declaration full approval