by Quintessence of Dust » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:42 am
by Cormactopia Prime » Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:54 am
by Sedgistan » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:24 am
by Bears Armed » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:24 am
by Quintessence of Dust » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:33 am
Sedgistan wrote:I don't have an opinion to share on resetting the GA, but I'm opposed to it for the SC. There's not a compelling reason to do it, as there aren't the contradiction/duplication issues - there's still the freedom for new authors to pass resolutions on new subjects. Also, as old recipients of C/Cs CTE, they cannot get a replacement.
by Bears Armed » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:41 am
That's OOC game-mechanics, admittedly, but what proportion of the RP-ing players do you you think actually consider it to be the case IC?Quintessence of Dust wrote:In a game in which nations experience 7 million population growth every day (yet are still light enough to be towed between regions by helicopters),
by Quintessence of Dust » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:45 am
Bears Armed wrote:That's OOC game-mechanics, admittedly, but what proportion of the RP-ing players do you you think actually consider it to be the case IC?Quintessence of Dust wrote:In a game in which nations experience 7 million population growth every day (yet are still light enough to be towed between regions by helicopters),
by Lytrovia » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:37 am
by Mallorea and Riva » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:26 am
Sedgistan wrote:QoD usually uses "WA" to refer to the GA.
I don't have an opinion to share on resetting the GA, but I'm opposed to it for the SC. There's not a compelling reason to do it, as there aren't the contradiction/duplication issues - there's still the freedom for new authors to pass resolutions on new subjects. Also, as old recipients of C/Cs CTE, they cannot get a replacement.
by Frankland » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:33 am
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by Quintessence of Dust » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:01 am
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Thanks for starting this discussion, QoD. It's sure to raise some heated debate, so everyone please try to keep things cool.
Frankland wrote:Point of order, WA was created in '08 so it is already older than some NSers users at 13+ years old. I think QoD is thinking of SC being created, which may well have been the following year.
Frankland wrote:I get it is a tradeoff, as there are people invested in the current resolutions.. But, IMO there does come a point when the match is played out and it is time to start a new one, and maybe that line is somewhere around 500 or 600 passed resolutions.
by Frisbeeteria » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:08 am
by Mallorea and Riva » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:23 am
by Refuge Isle » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:56 am
by Quintessence of Dust » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:28 pm
Refuge Isle wrote:The OP rather mischaracterises this as "Some will repeat, some won't, we have different authors now", but I will bet you fifty million planets that we'd see Tinhampton out with five hundred sparknotes drafts of 90% of everything that's been passed and just sailing it through again.
Refuge Isle wrote:As IRL governments go...
by Galiantus III » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:32 pm
Frisbeeteria wrote:For some reason I have a mental image of a dolphin, trying to organize a new pod of his fellow dolphins to change the course of a nuclear sub. It's entertaining, I'll give ya that.
Ballotonia wrote:Testing is for sissies. The actual test is to see how many people complain when any change is made ;)
by Bears Armed » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:36 pm
Frisbeeteria wrote:Let me know when this happens, so I can have my newest version of Rights and Duties of WA States lined up and ready to go!
Kidding, kidding. Seriously, if this goes through, somebody should have some sort of Charter standing by and ready to go. I still think it's important to have a rules-defining document at the top of the list.
by Quintessence of Dust » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:40 pm
Galiantus III wrote:I've got a better idea:
Resolution #1 can't be repealed, right? Simply change that, and if it does get repealed, it automatically repeals every other (GA) resolution. That would put any reset up to significant political debate, rather than moderation approval or some automatic cycle.
Bears Armed wrote:Frisbeeteria wrote:Let me know when this happens, so I can have my newest version of Rights and Duties of WA States lined up and ready to go!
Kidding, kidding. Seriously, if this goes through, somebody should have some sort of Charter standing by and ready to go. I still think it's important to have a rules-defining document at the top of the list.
I still think that the 'Charter' (including the "compliance in good faith' clause) should be outside of & earlier than the list of resolutions, as the OOC version of whatever document our nations are presumed to sign IC when they join.
by Azalfia » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:45 pm
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:32 pm
Quintessence of Dust wrote:Refuge Isle wrote:As IRL governments go...
There is no RL government that operates under duplication+contradiction rules, without sunsets, remotely comparable to the NS WA. I don't think it's a reasonable comparison to say it's not how it's done IRL because no government could legislate under the constraints imposed by the WA's meta rules.
by WayNeacTia » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:54 pm
Frisbeeteria wrote:Let me know when this happens, so I can have my newest version of Rights and Duties of WA States lined up and ready to go!
Kidding, kidding. Seriously, if this goes through, somebody should have some sort of Charter standing by and ready to go. I still think it's important to have a rules-defining document at the top of the list.
And yeah, I'm ready for a reset.
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Comfed » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:06 pm
Galiantus III wrote:I've got a better idea:
Resolution #1 can't be repealed, right? Simply change that, and if it does get repealed, it automatically repeals every other (GA) resolution. That would put any reset up to significant political debate, rather than moderation approval or some automatic cycle.
(Also, I want to be able to say I destroyed the WA.)
by Unibot III » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:19 pm
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
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