by Shrillland » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:29 pm
by Tinhampton » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:03 pm
by Shrillland » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:10 pm
Tinhampton wrote:Normally it's the right-wing who oppose rent controls and the left-wing who support them. My biggest question about this whole shenanigans is just how did this situation get reversed in Sweden?
by Page » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:22 pm
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:24 pm
by Laka Strolistandiler » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:26 pm
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by Ultima Antivictoria » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:40 am
by Shrillland » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:29 pm
Ultima Antivictoria wrote:When center-left neoliberalism gets so out of hand that a leftist bloc forgets its duty to the working class.
by Dresderstan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:56 pm
by Shrillland » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:03 pm
Dresderstan wrote:Refresh my memory Shrilll it's been a while, what was the makeup of Parliament and which parties were in confidence of the government and those in opposition?
by Dresderstan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:05 pm
Shrillland wrote:Dresderstan wrote:Refresh my memory Shrilll it's been a while, what was the makeup of Parliament and which parties were in confidence of the government and those in opposition?
At the moment, the Riksdag of 349 members and government stand at:
Social Democrats(S): 100
Greens(MP): 16
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Centre(C): 31
Liberals(L): 19
Opposition:
Moderates(M): 70
Sweden Democrats(SD): 62
Left(V): 27
Christian Democrats(KD): 22
Independents: 2
Government: 166
Opposition: 183
In short, with V defecting to the opposition over the rent controls bill, the government will collapse on Monday. Once that happens, Löfven has seven days to call an election. If he doesn't, then the Speaker will act as informatuer and try to form a new government, which could happen but isn't likely.
by Shrillland » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:17 pm
Dresderstan wrote:Shrillland wrote:At the moment, the Riksdag of 349 members and government stand at:
Social Democrats(S): 100
Greens(MP): 16
C&S Partners
Centre(C): 31
Liberals(L): 19
Opposition:
Moderates(M): 70
Sweden Democrats(SD): 62
Left(V): 27
Christian Democrats(KD): 22
Independents: 2
Government: 166
Opposition: 183
In short, with V defecting to the opposition over the rent controls bill, the government will collapse on Monday. Once that happens, Löfven has seven days to call an election. If he doesn't, then the Speaker will act as informatuer and try to form a new government, which could happen but isn't likely.
And even if an election is called... I still think the SocDems will win unless things start to go poorly come the campaign. Weird how the Left will call for no confidence over rent price control... when it seems neither the Moderates or Sweden Democrats can form a governing coalition.
by Shrillland » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:22 pm
by Bears Armed » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:27 pm
Ultima Antivictoria wrote:When center-left neoliberalism gets so out of hand that a leftist bloc forgets its duty to the working class.
by Shrillland » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:43 pm
Bears Armed wrote:Ultima Antivictoria wrote:When center-left neoliberalism gets so out of hand that a leftist bloc forgets its duty to the working class.
How does it help "the working class" to make renting out property too unprofitable for many people to feel like maintaining it for this purpose, instead of adapting the buildings to more profitable roles or simply letting them gradually fall apart, and thus to reduce the level of housing stock that is available to its members? And why assume automatically that none of the people renting out property aren't also "workers" and simply relying on those rents for parts of their income?
by The Holy Therns » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:00 am
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by The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:14 am
The Holy Therns wrote:https://www.thelocal.se/20210621/sweden-stefan-lofven-loses-no-confidence-motion/
Stefan Löfven lost the vote. Brb guys, we'll be making a new government.With Blackjack and hoo-
by Svenska-Britannia » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:20 am
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by The Holy Therns » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:27 am
Svenska-Britannia wrote:Since the elections are going to start, i wonder who would come out on top..
It would be nice if it was a Party that could copy the Japanese in terms of Society and Economy..
Gallade wrote:Love, cake, wine and banter. No greater meaning to life (〜^∇^)〜
Ethel mermania wrote:to therns is to transend the pettiness of the field of play into the field of dreams.
by Union of Socialist Council-Republics » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:28 am
Svenska-Britannia wrote:Since the elections are going to start, i wonder who would come out on top..
It would be nice if it was a Party that could copy the Japanese in terms of Society and Economy..
by Svenska-Britannia » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:31 am
Union of Socialist Council-Republics wrote:Svenska-Britannia wrote:Since the elections are going to start, i wonder who would come out on top..
It would be nice if it was a Party that could copy the Japanese in terms of Society and Economy..
Considering that Japan's society and economy have been slowly imploding since the 90s, I'm not sure such a thing would be the best move for Sweden.
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by Union of Socialist Council-Republics » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:33 am
Svenska-Britannia wrote:Union of Socialist Council-Republics wrote:Considering that Japan's society and economy have been slowly imploding since the 90s, I'm not sure such a thing would be the best move for Sweden.
Well let me re-correct myself: It would be nice if it was a party that could copy the Japanese in their equivalent of a 'Golden Age' in Modern Times.
by Svenska-Britannia » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:34 am
Union of Socialist Council-Republics wrote:Svenska-Britannia wrote:
Well let me re-correct myself: It would be nice if it was a party that could copy the Japanese in their equivalent of a 'Golden Age' in Modern Times.
Presuming that you're referring to the 1980s, it is important to note that it was this 'golden age' society that imploded in the first place.
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by Union of Socialist Council-Republics » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:37 am
Svenska-Britannia wrote:Union of Socialist Council-Republics wrote:Presuming that you're referring to the 1980s, it is important to note that it was this 'golden age' society that imploded in the first place.
So...its Bad to have a Golden Age then? Just basically let every country be in a struggling position?
by Svenska-Britannia » Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:39 am
Union of Socialist Council-Republics wrote:Svenska-Britannia wrote:
So...its Bad to have a Golden Age then? Just basically let every country be in a struggling position?
Well, I was more gesturing to the fact that the economic and social model used by the Japanese in the 1980s was inherently unstable and brought about its own collapse, and that initiating that model would most likely produce similar results. It produced short-term gains, but inflicted long-term costs. Personally, I think it's much better to pursue long-term gains if it reduces short-term results.
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