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Laka Strolistandiler
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Founded: Jul 14, 2018
Democratic Socialists

Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:15 pm

I am a socialist state yet I got #503 opinion 4 of which is voiced by “a wealthy industrialist”. In a socialist state. May really need a validity change.
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I am not a Russian but a Cameroonian born in this POS.
An autocratic semi feudal monarchy with elements of aristocracy. Society absurdly hierarchical, cosplaying Edwardian Britain. A British-ish colonial empire incorporating some partially democratic nations who just want some WMD’s
Pronouns up to your choice I can be a girl if I want to so refer to me as she/her.
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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:13 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Seanat wrote:Yet another autarky incompatibility on issue #449 where the first option argues "we can finally be independent of foreign natural gas"
Taking this backstage for discussion.

Further to this, option one of this issue now has a doppelganger for nations with autarky.

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I am a socialist state yet I got #503 opinion 4 of which is voiced by “a wealthy industrialist”. In a socialist state. May really need a validity change.

Thank you for the report. This option now has a doppelganger.
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Seanat
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Seanat » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:48 am

Another autarky thing, issue #733 talks about bringing in goods to your nation's port from across the globe.

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Dabarastan
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Founded: Jul 29, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Dabarastan » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:56 am

Issue #1459
Friends With Tax Benefits
Option 2 - Proposes banning divorce.

I received this issue/option even though I already have the Permanent Marriage policy.

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Laka Strolistandiler
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:36 am

Hello! I’ve recently got an issue #342- “This land was made for you and me”. It seems to me that is misses one obvious opinion- taking over the land by force. After all it’s not like issues can have references to RL historical events and I guess that the correlation between this and Nazi Lebensraum is obvious,
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I am not a Russian but a Cameroonian born in this POS.
An autocratic semi feudal monarchy with elements of aristocracy. Society absurdly hierarchical, cosplaying Edwardian Britain. A British-ish colonial empire incorporating some partially democratic nations who just want some WMD’s
Pronouns up to your choice I can be a girl if I want to so refer to me as she/her.
I reserve the right to /stillme any one-liners if my post is at least two lines long

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Drew Durrnil
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Anarchy

Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:29 pm

Issue #23.3 should not be available for autocracies, since they would not have a Green Party.
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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:00 pm

Seanat wrote:Another autarky thing, issue #733 talks about bringing in goods to your nation's port from across the globe.

Not quite. It's talking about supplying the ice-locked northern region. It could be national or it could be international. While option one does mention "goods coming across the globe" it is portrayed as a possibility for the future, not a state of being. No need to exclude the issue from autarky nations.

I have doppelganged the first option, however.

Dabarastan wrote:Issue #1459
Friends With Tax Benefits
Option 2 - Proposes banning divorce.

I received this issue/option even though I already have the Permanent Marriage policy.

As first option also mentions divorcing immediately after tax season, I have amended the validity of this issue.

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Hello! I’ve recently got an issue #342- “This land was made for you and me”. It seems to me that is misses one obvious opinion- taking over the land by force. After all it’s not like issues can have references to RL historical events and I guess that the correlation between this and Nazi Lebensraum is obvious,

Firstly, this thread is not the place to suggest subjective amendments (such as new options) to issues. It is for objective errors with spelling, grammar or punctuation and suspected errors with validities and macros.

However, I will say that issues never aim to cover every potential answer to an issue (that would not be possible). They aim to tell a cohesive story. "This Land Was Made for You and Me" asks what @@LEADER@@ can do when there is no more space within the country and all answers are focused within country. Other issues allow the player to go and annex other nations.
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Guy » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:31 am

The reference to Josef Menegele in Issue 763 is quite deeply inappropriate, and I'm surprised it made it through the editing phase.
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Sanctaria
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Sanctaria » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:59 am

Guy wrote:The reference to Josef Menegele in Issue 763 is quite deeply inappropriate, and I'm surprised it made it through the editing phase.

We actually discussed this this time last year when Mengele was satirised in two issues; we decided to replace the reference in one, but kept it in 763. Given the change in team make-up since last year, we can discuss the objection again.

Also, not to be that person, but please remember the usage for this thread:

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:Please use this thread only for reporting visible objective errors in grammar, spelling, punctuation and for suspected problems with validities, macros and the like.

Unexpected stat effects from option selections should go here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=370351

Complaints about the narrative or structure of the issues should be discussed in their own threads. Start in The Writer's Block, generally.
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Dr. Bethany Greer CMD, Sanctarian Ambassador to the World Assembly
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GA#109 GA#133 GA#176 GA#201 GA#222 GA#297
GA#590 (Co)
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:19 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:Issue #23.3 should not be available for autocracies, since they would not have a Green Party.

This option now has a doppelganger.
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Zentata
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Postby Zentata » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:30 pm

I may be wrong, but in Issue "Forage and Forget", option 4, which is

“Plants deserve to blossom freely, not be pent-up in a stuffy greenhouse,” interjects Cory Andrea Parsley, the chairwoman of the local neighborhood beautification council, dropping a bag of seeds on your desk. “We should give free seeds to all hikers and encourage them to spread them around while they are walking. Soon enough we will have a rampant vegetation to offset the loss from free foraging.”


Shouldn't it just be "rampant vegetation", rather than "a rampant vegetation"? I don't think that "a vegetation" is correct - it for sure doesn't sound right to me at all.
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Pogaria
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:47 pm

Zentata wrote:I may be wrong, but in Issue "Forage and Forget", option 4, which is

“Plants deserve to blossom freely, not be pent-up in a stuffy greenhouse,” interjects Cory Andrea Parsley, the chairwoman of the local neighborhood beautification council, dropping a bag of seeds on your desk. “We should give free seeds to all hikers and encourage them to spread them around while they are walking. Soon enough we will have a rampant vegetation to offset the loss from free foraging.”


Shouldn't it just be "rampant vegetation", rather than "a rampant vegetation"? I don't think that "a vegetation" is correct - it for sure doesn't sound right to me at all.

It's a little unusual, but I wouldn't say that it's incorrect.
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Laka Strolistandiler
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:36 pm

Hello!
I’ve recently got issue #1365 “Balancing the Box”. Now, I have multiple problems with the issue, the first of them is that the title says that “A number of people have been imprisoned for failing to pay the license fee” This wouldn’t have been an issue but I clearly remember receiving #500 “Please Don't Feed The (Copyright) Trolls” and choosing option 3 which rids the nation clear of any sort of copyright law. I also remember receiving #603 “Not My Idea” and choosing option 2 further confirming my wish to clear my nation of any sort of copyright law. Still, for some reason, my people are getting fined for failing to pay license fee. Either I’m getting something wrong or we have a problem here.

However, a far more obvious problem is with option 4 which is voiced by “billionaire media mogul RuPaul Murmarina, the owner of…”. Billionaire. Media Mogul. Owner of @@ANIMAL@@ news. In a socialist state. Might REALLY need a doppelgänger for socialist nations.
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I am not a Russian but a Cameroonian born in this POS.
An autocratic semi feudal monarchy with elements of aristocracy. Society absurdly hierarchical, cosplaying Edwardian Britain. A British-ish colonial empire incorporating some partially democratic nations who just want some WMD’s
Pronouns up to your choice I can be a girl if I want to so refer to me as she/her.
I reserve the right to /stillme any one-liners if my post is at least two lines long

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Sanctaria
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Sanctaria » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:57 pm

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Hello!
I’ve recently got issue #1365 “Balancing the Box”. Now, I have multiple problems with the issue, the first of them is that the title says that “A number of people have been imprisoned for failing to pay the license fee” This wouldn’t have been an issue but I clearly remember receiving #500 “Please Don't Feed The (Copyright) Trolls” and choosing option 3 which rids the nation clear of any sort of copyright law. I also remember receiving #603 “Not My Idea” and choosing option 2 further confirming my wish to clear my nation of any sort of copyright law. Still, for some reason, my people are getting fined for failing to pay license fee. Either I’m getting something wrong or we have a problem here.

Maybe I'm missing something, but what has a television licence fee got to do with trademarks/copyright?
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Ideological Bulwark #258

Dr. Bethany Greer CMD, Sanctarian Ambassador to the World Assembly
Author of:
GA#109 GA#133 GA#176 GA#201 GA#222 GA#297
GA#590 (Co)
Frisbeeteria wrote:Do people not realize that moderators can tell when someone is wanking?

Luna Amore wrote:Sanc is always watching. Ever vigilant.

Auralia wrote:Your condescending attitude is remarkably annoying.

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Laka Strolistandiler
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:03 pm

Sanctaria wrote:Maybe I'm missing something, but what has a television licence fee got to do with trademarks/copyright?

Nah, but it has something to do with me being a pirate and a non-native English speaker and not knowing that this has no relationship to copyright law. Apologies :blush:
Still the problem with an option that I’ve listed stands
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I am not a Russian but a Cameroonian born in this POS.
An autocratic semi feudal monarchy with elements of aristocracy. Society absurdly hierarchical, cosplaying Edwardian Britain. A British-ish colonial empire incorporating some partially democratic nations who just want some WMD’s
Pronouns up to your choice I can be a girl if I want to so refer to me as she/her.
I reserve the right to /stillme any one-liners if my post is at least two lines long

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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:16 am

Guy wrote:The reference to Josef Menegele in Issue 763 is quite deeply inappropriate, and I'm surprised it made it through the editing phase.

Coming back to this, the Editing team discussed your objection and have decided to leave the issue as is.

The character in question is a highly unethical and criminal character who wishes to perform experiments on unwilling, live humans. Sadly, this is something that has been done throughout history, most notably by Mengele - indeed in the medical community (and likely larger afield) the name Mengele has become a byword for such serious ethical abuses, so we think it's an appropriate reference for this particular issue.

However references are only appropriate while they remain relevant, and the team does feel that re-using Mengele in further issues or options, regardless of the character, would definitely weaken the reference or diminish it, which we want to avoid. Some people may be unfamiliar with Mengele and having the name in the issue might encourage people to google it and learn about this dark individual (stranger things have happened from things in issues).

Thanks for your report.
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Ideological Bulwark #258

Dr. Bethany Greer CMD, Sanctarian Ambassador to the World Assembly
Author of:
GA#109 GA#133 GA#176 GA#201 GA#222 GA#297
GA#590 (Co)
Frisbeeteria wrote:Do people not realize that moderators can tell when someone is wanking?

Luna Amore wrote:Sanc is always watching. Ever vigilant.

Auralia wrote:Your condescending attitude is remarkably annoying.

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Laka Strolistandiler
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:24 am

Got a #139 “Drug Debate hits the streets”, opinion 1 has this sentence: “I need to smoke! And sometimes I need to roll a little bit more than tobacco.”. The problem here is that I have a no-smoking policy enabled. Maybe needs a doppelgänger.
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I am not a Russian but a Cameroonian born in this POS.
An autocratic semi feudal monarchy with elements of aristocracy. Society absurdly hierarchical, cosplaying Edwardian Britain. A British-ish colonial empire incorporating some partially democratic nations who just want some WMD’s
Pronouns up to your choice I can be a girl if I want to so refer to me as she/her.
I reserve the right to /stillme any one-liners if my post is at least two lines long

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The Free Joy State
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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:48 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Got a #139 “Drug Debate hits the streets”, opinion 1 has this sentence: “I need to smoke! And sometimes I need to roll a little bit more than tobacco.”. The problem here is that I have a no-smoking policy enabled. Maybe needs a doppelgänger.

In this case, the validity is right. This issue is specifically for nations that banned smoking.

Worth saying the same option begins: "Ever since smoking was banned, I've been a gibbering wreck," laments @@RANDOMNAME@@
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Seanat
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Seanat » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:54 am

Issue 13 option 3 has a religious leader asking the government to prevent people from mocking their religion, but my nation has the atheism policy, so said religious worship would be illegal anyway.

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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:05 pm

Seanat wrote:Issue 13 option 3 has a religious leader asking the government to prevent people from mocking their religion, but my nation has the atheism policy, so said religious worship would be illegal anyway.

The validity for this option has been amended.
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Drew Durrnil
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Anarchy

Postby Drew Durrnil » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:31 pm

I'm very upset issue 617.4 doesn't increase the patriotism stats >:(
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Phyr
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Ex-Nation

Postby Phyr » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:12 am

Issue 655, option 2 says "Dr Maurice Zaius" omitting the . after "Dr". The Dr. in option 1 correctly includes the period. Oddly enough, the spoiler thread at the top of this forum says there is a period after the Dr in option two, but it is not showing up for me in game.

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Pogaria
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Pogaria » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:11 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:I'm very upset issue 617:4 doesn't increase the patriotism stats >:(

I will discuss this with the other editors.

Phyr wrote:Issue 655, option 2 says "Dr Maurice Zaius" omitting the . after "Dr". The Dr. in option 1 correctly includes the period. Oddly enough, the spoiler thread at the top of this forum says there is a period after the Dr in option two, but it is not showing up for me in game.

Omitting the period may be more common in British English, although we should be consistent within an issue. Since this is inconsistent, I will go ahead and add the period.
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Seanat
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Founded: Mar 09, 2018
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Seanat » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:00 pm

Issue 868 option 3 says "I don’t want to risk losing my supply of Brancalandian goose down coats over this!" which goes against my nation's Autarky policy, but on top of that, it probably isn't tracked, but in another issue I answered to make animal based clothing illegal.

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Seanat
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Seanat » Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:44 pm

Issue 146 shouldn't be possible to get with the Atheism policy.

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