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Postby Francois Isidore » Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:45 am

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Madjack
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Postby Madjack » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:16 am

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Statement of Clarification with regards to The South Pacific


Greetings,

In January of 2021, in the course of undertaking operations to prevent a pro-fascist World Assembly resolution, a diplomatic incident developed between the two members of the Aurora Alliance, The North Pacific and The South Pacific. During this time, TNP released a statement that some, especially in TSP, felt was unclear. That statement is available here.

Following a re-engagement with The South Pacific after previous talks broke up without a resolution, The North Pacific has agreed to release a firm and final statement clarifying a position that at the time we had thought was evident, but we accept now that some misunderstood our statement. The North Pacific does not consider The South Pacific to be a region that sanctions, condones or endorses fascism, in any way. We also acknowledge The South Pacific’s contributions to the anti-fascist fight throughout the years, and their commitment to the anti-fascist cause.

Furthermore, The North Pacific and The South Pacific have agreed to a new procedure for if either region is to engage in quorum raiding activities going forward. This is not a treaty, but rather, a gentlemen’s agreement on the part of each member to engage this protocol going forward. This protocol will be revealed to our citizens privately. We hope that this protocol will clear up any further issues.

The North Pacific would also like to further reiterate our earlier apology to the League of Radiance, a region that was mistakenly targeted in the third round of quorum raiding against the resolution, after the League of Radiance was mistakenly left on the list of targets, despite not re-approving the resolution. In addition, The North Pacific further reiterates its apology to the Renegade Islands Alliance - as well as to our mutual ally, The Rejected Realms - for not making further attempts to contact RIA to get them to remove their approval.

Following the talks that led to this agreement, the governments of both The North Pacific and The South Pacific consider this matter closed, and both parties are now ready to move forward together into many more years of cooperation.

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Robespierre (Francois Isidore)
Delegate of The North Pacific

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Guy
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Postby Guy » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:04 am

Was TSP agreeing to the new quorum raid protocol quid pro quo for TNP recognising it does not sanction, condone, or encourage fascism? If not (and I hope not), it’s quite unusually worded, and a shame TNP did not extend that to all other regions its original statement tainted.
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Madjack
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Postby Madjack » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:09 am

Guy wrote:Was TSP agreeing to the new quorum raid protocol quid pro quo for TNP recognising it does not sanction, condone, or encourage fascism?
No.
If not (and I hope not), it’s quite unusually worded, and a shame TNP did not extend that to all other regions its original statement tainted.

I don't see how it's unusually worded - or how our original statement tainted any region.

If there are still outstanding issues between TNP and TRR, I am yet to hear of them. But I'm happy to have a conversation with TRR about this and any other issue - and I'm sure in the coming days I'll get to have that conversation, if one is needed.
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Postby Roavin » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:29 pm

Guy wrote:Was TSP agreeing to the new quorum raid protocol quid pro quo for TNP recognising it does not sanction, condone, or encourage fascism?


As already stated, it was not a quid pro quo and TNP had agreed to issue such a clarification before we began talking about the quorum raid protocol.

As Minister of Foreign Affairs of the South Pacific, I want to thank Delegate Robespierre and Minister St George for the statement and our productive discussions. It truly was a pleasure working with you toward this mutually beneficial outcome and leave this matter behind us.
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Postby Toerana » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:09 pm

Madjack wrote:This protocol will be revealed to our citizens privately. We hope that this protocol will clear up any further issues.


Is there any particular reason why this protocol is not being shared publicly, and instead is being hidden behind closed doors for only citizens of the respective regions to view?

Amusing that TNP going on the record to state that no, they don't view TSP as a fascist condoning region took this long though.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:23 pm

Toerana wrote:Amusing that TNP going on the record to state that no, they don't view TSP as a fascist condoning region took this long though.

McMasterdonia is no longer Delegate and thus no longer able to stand in the way of reconciliation. I doubt there's much deeper reasoning to it than that.

It's good to see this statement from TNP, and good for you and TSP for letting common sense and civility prevail.
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Postby Praeceps » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:53 pm

Well done Robes and MJ! Glad to see TSP finally willing to compromise and that we can move forward.
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Postby Altmoras » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:16 pm

Praeceps wrote:Well done Robes and MJ! Glad to see TSP finally willing to compromise and that we can move forward.


So in your view it was TSP's unwillingness to compromise that was holding up an agreement on this matter?
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Postby Qvait » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:45 pm

Praeceps wrote:Well done Robes and MJ! Glad to see TSP finally willing to compromise and that we can move forward.

Heh, okay...
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Praeceps
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Postby Praeceps » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:51 pm

Altmoras wrote:
Praeceps wrote:Well done Robes and MJ! Glad to see TSP finally willing to compromise and that we can move forward.


So in your view it was TSP's unwillingness to compromise that was holding up an agreement on this matter?

I would have accepted the core principle of the procedure so fast your head would spin (and by core principle, I mean the basic idea, details such as the protocol being private—I would prefer it being public—are secondary to the foundation of the protocol).
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:28 am

Praeceps wrote:I would have accepted the core principle of the procedure so fast your head would spin (and by core principle, I mean the basic idea, details such as the protocol being private—I would prefer it being public—are secondary to the foundation of the protocol).

On that note, if anyone would like to leak the details of the protocol to me for the benefit of the general public and the sake of political transparency, my DMs are always open and your anonymity will be preserved. After all, don't people have a right to know? Think of it as a public service!

This is my humorous way of pointing out it's only a matter of time before details leak, to me or someone else, so why don't the governments of TNP and TSP just release it themselves?
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Dreadton
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Postby Dreadton » Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:31 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Praeceps wrote:I would have accepted the core principle of the procedure so fast your head would spin (and by core principle, I mean the basic idea, details such as the protocol being private—I would prefer it being public—are secondary to the foundation of the protocol).

On that note, if anyone would like to leak the details of the protocol to me for the benefit of the general public and the sake of political transparency, my DMs are always open and your anonymity will be preserved. After all, don't people have a right to know? Think of it as a public service!

This is my humorous way of pointing out it's only a matter of time before details leak, to me or someone else, so why don't the governments of TNP and TSP just release it themselves?


Or you could just be come a citizen of TNP and request the information, or wait for it to be released to the Regional Assembly.
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Postby Roavin » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:13 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:This is my humorous way of pointing out it's only a matter of time before details leak, to me or someone else, so why don't the governments of TNP and TSP just release it themselves?


That'd be boring. :P
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:16 am

Dreadton wrote:Or you could just be come a citizen of TNP and request the information, or wait for it to be released to the Regional Assembly.

There are a litany of reasons that won't be happening. I just don't get what the point of the secrecy is when everyone knows it won't remain secret. What is it that the governments of TNP and TSP wish to hide about the protocol exactly? Seems like an odd thing to conceal unless there's something controversial in the details.

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Madjack
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Postby Madjack » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:32 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Dreadton wrote:Or you could just be come a citizen of TNP and request the information, or wait for it to be released to the Regional Assembly.

There are a litany of reasons that won't be happening. I just don't get what the point of the secrecy is when everyone knows it won't remain secret. What is it that the governments of TNP and TSP wish to hide about the protocol exactly? Seems like an odd thing to conceal unless there's something controversial in the details.

I'll be honest, when it eventually leaks to you, you'll be annoyed at how benign it is.

As for why it's not been released for public consumption? Eh, it's just not something the general public needs to know. TSP has briefed its people, TNP has briefed ours. Everyone else is free to speculate on what it contains but honestly, it'd be a waste of your day - you could likely guess what the protocol contains without using too much imagination :P

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Cormactopia Prime wrote:On that note, if anyone would like to leak the details of the protocol to me for the benefit of the general public and the sake of political transparency, my DMs are always open and your anonymity will be preserved. After all, don't people have a right to know? Think of it as a public service!

This is my humorous way of pointing out it's only a matter of time before details leak, to me or someone else, so why don't the governments of TNP and TSP just release it themselves?


Or you could just be come a citizen of TNP and request the information, or wait for it to be released to the Regional Assembly.
Not sure Cormac would pass the Vice Delegate check because for whatever reason some in TNP are scared of him - or scared of having him in the region. It's really weird.
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Postby Dreadton » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:11 pm

Madjack wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:There are a litany of reasons that won't be happening. I just don't get what the point of the secrecy is when everyone knows it won't remain secret. What is it that the governments of TNP and TSP wish to hide about the protocol exactly? Seems like an odd thing to conceal unless there's something controversial in the details.

I'll be honest, when it eventually leaks to you, you'll be annoyed at how benign it is.

As for why it's not been released for public consumption? Eh, it's just not something the general public needs to know. TSP has briefed its people, TNP has briefed ours. Everyone else is free to speculate on what it contains but honestly, it'd be a waste of your day - you could likely guess what the protocol contains without using too much imagination :P

Dreadton wrote:
Or you could just be come a citizen of TNP and request the information, or wait for it to be released to the Regional Assembly.
Not sure Cormac would pass the Vice Delegate check because for whatever reason some in TNP are scared of him - or scared of having him in the region. It's really weird.


I wonder what he did to give people that impression.
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Cormactopia Prime
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:14 pm

Dreadton wrote:I wonder what he did to give people that impression.

Nothing worse than other people who have passed the Vice Delegate check, but it is what it is. I'm not looking to join TNP these days, I assure you.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:18 pm

Madjack wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:There are a litany of reasons that won't be happening. I just don't get what the point of the secrecy is when everyone knows it won't remain secret. What is it that the governments of TNP and TSP wish to hide about the protocol exactly? Seems like an odd thing to conceal unless there's something controversial in the details.

I'll be honest, when it eventually leaks to you, you'll be annoyed at how benign it is.

As for why it's not been released for public consumption? Eh, it's just not something the general public needs to know. TSP has briefed its people, TNP has briefed ours. Everyone else is free to speculate on what it contains but honestly, it'd be a waste of your day - you could likely guess what the protocol contains without using too much imagination :P

Dreadton wrote:
Or you could just be come a citizen of TNP and request the information, or wait for it to be released to the Regional Assembly.
Not sure Cormac would pass the Vice Delegate check because for whatever reason some in TNP are scared of him - or scared of having him in the region. It's really weird.

Point of information, he already hasn’t :p

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Madjack
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Postby Madjack » Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:27 am

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Opening Statement September 2021


To our friends in NationStates,

To quote a previous delegate - “the people have spoken and they have been heard”, and the person they chose to be delegate is myself. It’s kinda wild. This has been the goal for a long time, and I’d just like to thank everyone who took part in our elections, whether as a candidate or a voter, and especially congratulate the Election Commissioners for a well run election.

I congratulate Sir Kasto for his victory in the vice delegate election and look forward to working with him over the next four months, as I have over the last few terms. He’s a real diamond and I expect big things from him. To those standing in the Speaker election, I wish you luck, and I know that whoever wins the office will be in good hands. Commiserations, also, to the candidates who were beaten in the election. Running for office is always a risk, and a campaign lost but well fought is still something to be credited for.

And now, onto business. As previously posted about, after taking my oath, I immediately moved an exemption for Boston Castle so that they might continue in the role I have planned for them as World Assembly Affairs. I have also added several regions to the Civil Defense Siren and added a region to the Retaliatory Recruitment list. I plan on discussing removals of dead regions from CDS with the other Pacifics next week.

With that out of the way, it’s time for the thing y’all are here for - who made Mad Jack’s cabinet? Well, here we go:

Minister of Foreign Affairs: Kranostav
Tlomz is a former delegate, WA and FA minister and spent last term in the Foreign Affairs Ministry helping me in our discussions with other regions. Tlomz has both the FA experience and administrative skills to put into place the plans I have for the region.

Minister of World Assembly Affairs: Boston Castle
Boston has been a stalwart of the WA ministry over the last few terms, and I see no reason not to allow the chance to continue the excellent work they began under Robespierre’s delegacy.

Minister of Defense: Palutenia
This appointment may come as a bit of a surprise to some, but Koopa is a talented and dedicated member of the NPA and someone who I believe has all the potential to continue the NPA’s history of high quality work on the battlefield.

Minister of Culture: Not to Fret
Sarah is one of Culture’s best staffers and was a great support to myself when I was Minister. I’m looking forward to what they can do in this role. It’s going to be an exciting term.

Minister of Cards: Destructive Government Endorsing System
Cards needs a big term to justify its existence and there is no one more qualified to run a successful Ministry of Cards than the first Minister of Cards. DGES returns to the role to help rebuild the Ministry.

Minister of Radio: Greater Ale Permars
GAP had a good start to their half term as Minister last time out, and I believe we can maintain that start for a whole term. With new and existing programs planned, I believe GAP and his deputies can put Radio on an excellent footing.

Minister of Communications: Prydania
One of my favourite people/deer in all of NationStates, Prydania has agreed to become my Minister of Communications, as we look to bring sustained activity to Polaris article releases and get at least one TNL release out. Prydania is one of the best writers I know, and has oodles of administrative experience to boot, so was a near perfect choice for the Ministry.

Minister of Home Affairs: New Celoveniortan
New Celovniortan served as Minister last term, and I was impressed with the work the Ministry did, especially over August, so I decided to give them the opportunity to continue that.

Lead Gameside Advocate: Kastonvia
He’s everywhere, isn’t he? But over the last term Kasto has been one of the best Gameside Advocates and as we move to a GA team more focussed on promoting TNP stuff, Kasto will be leading that process. Expect a big team of GAs too, to ensure as wide a timezone coverage as possible.

I would also like to announce a further appointment. Over the last few weeks, Pallaith has been an invaluable help to me, providing advice and challenging me on my own preconceptions of people and ideas. For that reason, and many more besides, I am appointing Pallaith as Advisor to the Delegate. I have also appointed outgoing delegate Francois Isidore as an advisor.

I stood on a platform of helping TNP navigate the rough waters that I foresaw ahead due to incoming technical changes, not really counting on another "Drewpocalypse" to happen just as the election got under way. Whether the gains we see from him are sustainable or not will depend on the work done over the coming months. Regardless of this, The North Pacific will always remain committed to our allies, true to our friends, and implacable to our enemies. That won't change over the next four months and I look forward to the work we can achieve together.

Yours,
MadJack
Delegate of The North Pacific
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Emodea
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Postby Emodea » Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:14 am

Congratulations to MadJack for winning the election!
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:53 am

Condolences to MadJack for winning the election!
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Postby Aenglaland » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:57 am

Really looking forward to this term! :lol:
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Postby Xoriet » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:15 am

Congratulations, Madjack! Now you'll have up to a thousand votes to personally oppose any future attempts to Liberate Haven~
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