by Flanderlion » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:02 am
by Sedgistan » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:20 am
We've had a few Getting Help Requests about this region, so for the record: we have allowed this region to exist, under strict conditions that it does not violate our prohibition on DEN-themed regions.
Any sort of DEN-related theming, including allowing DEN-themed nations in, running the region as a raider group, pinning DEN-related dispatches, discussing DEN on the RMB, and so on, will result in the region being shut down immediately.
So long as the region remains about cute fluffy animals, it's okay.
by Flanderlion » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:49 am
Sedgistan wrote:Added context: this is about the region Den. Mod post on the RMB:We've had a few Getting Help Requests about this region, so for the record: we have allowed this region to exist, under strict conditions that it does not violate our prohibition on DEN-themed regions.
Any sort of DEN-related theming, including allowing DEN-themed nations in, running the region as a raider group, pinning DEN-related dispatches, discussing DEN on the RMB, and so on, will result in the region being shut down immediately.
So long as the region remains about cute fluffy animals, it's okay.
My view is essentially that it's 5 years since the Predator punishments. DEN/Cimmeria themed regions should remain prohibited for all time. This is not one. For a start, it's "Den"; secondly it's very restricted in its actions - anything at all that makes it look like the region is being DEN themed will result in the region being shut down. It's been long enough that we can allow this harmless region.
Yes, it's owned by a gameplayer and I guess it's a trophy region for someone. But there's not much to brag about holding a region that can only ever be fluffy animal themed. And the main intent of this aspect of the Predator punishments - a permanent end to DEN/Cimmeria themed organisations - remains in place.
That's not an end point to the discussion. We'll listen to viewpoints.
by Cormactopia Prime » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:21 am
by Durm » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:33 am
Flanderlion wrote:punishments for bad faith be added to the Founder
Cormactopia Prime wrote:if a nation with a DEN flag moves in there for a few days, a week, whatever, and isn't ejected and banned because the Founder didn't notice
Cormactopia Prime wrote:If a couple nations from this region move to a region for the purpose of one becoming WA Delegate
by Cormactopia Prime » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:38 am
Durm wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:if a nation with a DEN flag moves in there for a few days, a week, whatever, and isn't ejected and banned because the Founder didn't notice
The region has a password.Cormactopia Prime wrote:If a couple nations from this region move to a region for the purpose of one becoming WA Delegate
...then it is WA multiing. The region has a password and all of the nations in it are puppets.
by Bormiar » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:38 pm
by Durm » Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:09 am
Bormiar wrote:I don't know who refounded it, but as said above, they're an active gameplayer. This isn't some issues player who just liked the name. It's someone who undoubtably knows the history and is aware of DEN as a rule-breaking raider region. Furthermore, they appear to be doing nothing with the region.
My point is that this is still implicitly a trophy region, and I suspect it's more explicit off-site. You can't police that, so really the only decent options are to delete this region, or to lift the ban entirely.
by Flanderlion » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:29 pm
by Sedgistan » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:49 pm
by Flanderlion » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:44 am
Sedgistan wrote:DEN II was a very different situation; the WFE was fully DEN themed - it looked like a copy of one of the old pre-predator DEN WFEs.
As for the "Den" region, as expected, absolutely nothing has been done with it by the player that owns it.
by Sedgistan » Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:08 pm
by One Small Island » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:20 pm
Eternal Algerstonia wrote:what a shitty ass game this is
by Flanderlion » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:25 pm
Sedgistan wrote:It turns out we discussed this back in June, and the consensus was to delete the region, it just never got followed up. But now it has -- but with no warning/punishment attached to the founder.
by Jar Wattinree » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:27 pm
One Small Island wrote:Are there any plans to abolish the embassies and flag that have been attached to the region?
by Unibot III » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:30 pm
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Lamoni » Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:11 am
Licana on the M-21A2 MBT: "Well, it is one of the most badass tanks on NS."
Vortiaganica: Lamoni I understand fully, of course. The two (Lamoni & Lyras) are more inseparable than the Clinton family and politics.
Triplebaconation: Lamoni commands a quiet respect that carries its own authority. He is the Mandela of NS.
by CoraSpia » Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:35 am
Lamoni wrote:Moderation will be maintaining the ban on DEN until such time as the mod team is convinced that it is no longer needed. As has recently been demonstrated, there are still people who would attempt to use the name/brand in a way that would cause it to become banned again, if we were to unban it.
by Unibot III » Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:24 am
Lamoni wrote:Moderation will be maintaining the ban on DEN until such time as the mod team is convinced that it is no longer needed. As has recently been demonstrated, there are still people who would attempt to use the name/brand in a way that would cause it to become banned again, if we were to unban it.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Sedgistan » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:42 am
by Drop Your Pants » Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:23 pm
Sedgistan wrote:Speaking for myself, and not the team as a whole, I'd need to hear more convincing arguments than about their flags, to want to see the bans removed.
by Flanderlion » Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:42 pm
The King Isle wrote:What even was DEN?
by New Scottsville » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:00 pm
by Neo Parkiant » Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:05 pm
New Scottsville wrote:I mean, pardon my ignorance on the subject, but if all the active members who created/knew Predator was illegal are gone... why not let it back? The non-Predator users could try it again. Though to further it, it has been five whole years and I don't think even the few folks still around that used it would ever ever think of cheating again.
My first nation was an RMB nation in DEN for about a month before it got deleted, I wouldn't have any interest in it (plus Chaylia takes my time now lol) but I am sure that people would want to try and revive the brand and see if they could ever relive the glory days? Just something to consider, I suppose
Lamoni wrote:Moderation will be maintaining the ban on DEN until such time as the mod team is convinced that it is no longer needed. As has recently been demonstrated, there are still people who would attempt to use the name/brand in a way that would cause it to become banned again, if we were to unban it.
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