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Varanius
Diplomat
 
Posts: 727
Founded: Sep 18, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Varanius » Sat May 29, 2021 5:11 pm

Olichi wrote:Hey member of Rgbn here I don't wanna get involved in this current situation

Then don’t.
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Azerubia
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 14
Founded: Dec 20, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Azerubia » Sat May 29, 2021 5:12 pm

Nova Vandalia wrote:
Azerubia wrote:The referendum was a short lived idea not like these guys are making it seem like. Cause the founder saw people definitely didn’t want it so he just abandoned the idea. I was originally against the idea but that just concerns me. Then, we wanted to give back the region until our PM got bullied in NSL which made our Founder get into hostility with them. Then these guys release this statement as were around to start the process to give it back but then they release this statement. Since we had just gotten a rocky interaction with them not long ago we didn’t want to give the region back as it would have made it seem we have it back because of that statement. Then later on we finally decided to give it back because we had no use for it and the situation had toned down.


So you did a bad thing, got called out on it elsewhere, and your reaction was to double down on it because you got called out? :| That's some real strong leadership and rational y'all showed.

Jesus Christ do you guys not understand. The referendum was cancelled because the people of TSSU didn’t want it. Then the processus of giving the region back was under way until our PM got fucking bullied. The fact you decide to side on the side of the guys that decide bullying someone, who wasn’t even the guy in charge of the operation, for something in a simulation game really shows your true colors. We didn’t have any interest in keeping it but our Founder didn’t want everyone to think we gave it back because of the guys that fucking bullied our PM. You guys make me sick and really lose any sense of wanting to play this game. Our PM had a fucking mental breakdown over this. It was just for fun and games and we wanted to give the region back after. •_•

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Lycos
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Posts: 15
Founded: Sep 15, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby Lycos » Sat May 29, 2021 5:13 pm

Olichi wrote:Hey member of Rgbn here I don't wanna get involved in this current situation

RGBN is not involved unless they decide to insert themselves into this somehow.
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Alfonzo
Envoy
 
Posts: 223
Founded: Dec 27, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Alfonzo » Sat May 29, 2021 5:19 pm

Azerubia wrote:
Nova Vandalia wrote:
So you did a bad thing, got called out on it elsewhere, and your reaction was to double down on it because you got called out? :| That's some real strong leadership and rational y'all showed.

Jesus Christ do you guys not understand. The referendum was cancelled because the people of TSSU didn’t want it. Then the processus of giving the region back was under way until our PM got fucking bullied. The fact you decide to side on the side of the guys that decide bullying someone, who wasn’t even the guy in charge of the operation, for something in a simulation game really shows your true colors. We didn’t have any interest in keeping it but our Founder didn’t want everyone to think we gave it back because of the guys that fucking bullied our PM. You guys make me sick and really lose any sense of wanting to play this game. Our PM had a fucking mental breakdown over this. It was just for fun and games and we wanted to give the region back after. •_•

Your PM sounds like he needs a break tbh. Wish well for him
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Olichi
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Founded: Dec 02, 2020
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Olichi » Sat May 29, 2021 5:21 pm

Lycos wrote:
Olichi wrote:Hey member of Rgbn here I don't wanna get involved in this current situation

RGBN is not involved unless they decide to insert themselves into this somehow.

Based

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Lord Dominator
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Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Lord Dominator » Sat May 29, 2021 5:21 pm

That doesn’t sound very defender of you Force :(

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Lycos
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Posts: 15
Founded: Sep 15, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby Lycos » Sat May 29, 2021 5:24 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:That doesn’t sound very defender of you Force :(

Always have to protect the natives from themselves.
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Varanius
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Founded: Sep 18, 2019
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Varanius » Sat May 29, 2021 5:30 pm

“ bul·ly1
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verb
gerund or present participle: bullying
To disagree with, call out, or otherwise question the behaviors of others”
Thanks google!
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Angeloid Astraea wrote:I can't think of anyone that creates controversy out of nothing better than you!
Excidium Planetis wrote:Yeah, if you could enlighten me as to why you're such an asshole, that would be great.
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Mlakhavia wrote:Vara isn't a gameplay personality, he's a concentrated ball of spite

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The Python
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Founded: Jul 24, 2020
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The Python » Sat May 29, 2021 6:32 pm

Outreageous behaviour that even TWP is condemning.

(Not representing TSP, FNR or any other region atm)
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Suvmia
Secretary
 
Posts: 33
Founded: Sep 21, 2015
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Suvmia » Sat May 29, 2021 6:35 pm

Glad to see that TSSU has been returned to the native population; I hope that they are able to rebuild a solid community!
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Drop Your Pants
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Founded: Apr 17, 2005
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Drop Your Pants » Sat May 29, 2021 7:11 pm

Azerubia wrote:You guys make me sick and really lose any sense of wanting to play this game. Our PM had a fucking mental breakdown over this. It was just for fun and games and we wanted to give the region back after.

If you can't handle GP politics then don't participate. But fully expect to get called out for bullshit when you do it.
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Azalfia
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Posts: 149
Founded: May 15, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Azalfia » Sat May 29, 2021 7:13 pm

Let a region who have been displaced rebuild. It is objectively eroding the community to try to coerce a population by force into your region or union. Let a people be.
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Krovx Luxembourg
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Posts: 6
Founded: Nov 13, 2020
Father Knows Best State

Postby Krovx Luxembourg » Sat May 29, 2021 7:18 pm

Suvmia wrote:Glad to see that TSSU has been returned to the native population; I hope that they are able to rebuild a solid community!

Thanks, it won't be easy, but with enough work, we can return better than ever!
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Azalfia
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Founded: May 15, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Azalfia » Sat May 29, 2021 7:19 pm

Krovx Luxembourg wrote:
Suvmia wrote:Glad to see that TSSU has been returned to the native population; I hope that they are able to rebuild a solid commnuity!

Thanks, it won't be easy, but with enough work, we can return better than ever!

Good luck; don't let imperialist powers push you down!
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Scalizagasti
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Posts: 192
Founded: Jun 15, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Scalizagasti » Sat May 29, 2021 8:44 pm

Azerubia wrote:It was just for fun and games and we wanted to give the region back after.

damn bro you got the whole squad laughing

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Empire of Elysium
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Posts: 2
Founded: Jan 29, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Empire of Elysium » Sat May 29, 2021 8:53 pm

Varanius wrote:What a sad display from Force. Can’t ya find something better to do?

Empire of Elysium wrote:Although my opinion will not be appreciated here I must say as one of the First Ministers of a region of the Union this act today has raised my loyalty towards force. Your call for the regions of the Union to resist the Union governments efforts today has strengthen to resolve of us leading non-capital regions. You managed to turn the Heart National movement into a Unionist movement. And these sentiments are being expressed in CAD, RGBN, and the other regions of Force. So congratulations you have done wonders for the unity of Force.
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Hulldom
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Posts: 1571
Founded: Nov 16, 2018
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Hulldom » Sat May 29, 2021 8:56 pm

Probably not much point, but I, Hulldom, would like to sign on to this in my capacity as Delegate of Maastricht.
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Qvait
Envoy
 
Posts: 334
Founded: Mar 08, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Qvait » Sat May 29, 2021 9:32 pm

Azerubia wrote:The referendum was a short lived idea not like these guys are making it seem like. Cause the founder saw people definitely didn’t want it so he just abandoned the idea.

Azerubia wrote:The referendum was cancelled because the people of TSSU didn’t want it.

It was a dumb idea to call for a referendum in the first place. Totally unwarranted. I hope Force's actions were worth the blowback.
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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Founded: Dec 17, 2003
Democratic Socialists

Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun May 30, 2021 12:40 am

The Python wrote:Outreageous behaviour that even TWP is condemning.

(Not representing TSP, FNR or any other region atm)

Why the potshot at TWP? If you’d been around for more than five minutes you’d know we stand by our allies.
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Honeydewistania
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Founded: Jun 09, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Honeydewistania » Sun May 30, 2021 2:47 am

The Python wrote:Outreageous behaviour that even TWP is condemning.

(Not representing TSP, FNR or any other region atm)

TWP are allied with the URA. Not sure why you’re surprised
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Wymondham
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Posts: 402
Founded: Apr 03, 2017
Libertarian Police State

Postby Wymondham » Sun May 30, 2021 4:46 am

The Python wrote:Outreageous behaviour that even TWP is condemning.

(Not representing TSP, FNR or any other region atm)

Not sure why the shot at TWP was needed or warranted tbh
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Xoriet
Minister
 
Posts: 2046
Founded: Jun 08, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Xoriet » Sun May 30, 2021 4:50 am

Azerubia wrote:
Nova Vandalia wrote:
So you did a bad thing, got called out on it elsewhere, and your reaction was to double down on it because you got called out? :| That's some real strong leadership and rational y'all showed.

Jesus Christ do you guys not understand. The referendum was cancelled because the people of TSSU didn’t want it. Then the processus of giving the region back was under way until our PM got fucking bullied. The fact you decide to side on the side of the guys that decide bullying someone, who wasn’t even the guy in charge of the operation, for something in a simulation game really shows your true colors. We didn’t have any interest in keeping it but our Founder didn’t want everyone to think we gave it back because of the guys that fucking bullied our PM. You guys make me sick and really lose any sense of wanting to play this game. Our PM had a fucking mental breakdown over this. It was just for fun and games and we wanted to give the region back after. •_•

You know, trying to use RL circumstances and stress over a game to attack other people doesn't make your side look better. You got the normal amount of backlash and criticism expected of a foolish move, and now are trying to use RL anxiety to make the criticizing side look bad. This is not how you play NS. This is how you make yourselves just look plain manipulative and honestly diminishes the seriousness of mental health. You can make your case without trying to use someone's mental health to deflect valid criticism, but that fact seems to have eluded Force. When you can establish a case without capitalizing on anxiety over a game as your method of attacking the opposition, do come back with valid arguments.

It's quite disgusting that you are trying to resort to sympathy points as your defense. If any of you had genuine severe anxiety over it, I'm sorry because it's a terrible feeling and it should be taken seriously, but it's vile that you want to exploit someone's genuine mental health issues to deflect negative attention.
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Numero Capitan
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Posts: 680
Founded: Sep 27, 2007
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Numero Capitan » Sun May 30, 2021 4:51 am

Suvmia wrote:the United Regions Alliance, The West Pacific, The North Pacific, and The Pacific may take actions, either collectively or unilaterally, to act against the interests of Force, with all reasonable measures.


Do these measures include the use of...

nvm
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Comfed
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Founded: Apr 09, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Comfed » Sun May 30, 2021 6:33 am

Good grief, if you’re going to do that sort of thing at least do it well.

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Wymondham
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 402
Founded: Apr 03, 2017
Libertarian Police State

Postby Wymondham » Sun May 30, 2021 7:33 am

Numero Capitan wrote:
Suvmia wrote:the United Regions Alliance, The West Pacific, The North Pacific, and The Pacific may take actions, either collectively or unilaterally, to act against the interests of Force, with all reasonable measures.


Do these measures include the use of...

nvm

God damn it Nuca
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