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by Imperialisium » Wed May 19, 2021 11:34 am
by TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Wed May 19, 2021 11:38 am
Kenobot wrote:TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
Russia is supposedly a quasi-ally of Japan, and since there aren't any historical or territorial disputes, Japan would likely actually have good relations with Russia.
Its purchase would be more of a diplomatic thing and be about cooperation than gaining new capabilities since Japan already has some advanced weapons and has the capability of producing equal weapons domestically. It just under this new leadership has the capability to expand the defense budget which would allow it to make said purchases. Likely the Imperial Japanese defense budget for 2021 will be close to $85 billion plus around $30 billion in "aid" to its puppet militaries as well as its allies.
Much as they might have good relations and no historical enmity between them, a hegemonic Japan is bad for Russia. A strong Japan is ok for them as a buffer, but not strong enough to dominate Asia. At least that's what an IR Realist would think
by Union Princes » Wed May 19, 2021 11:52 am
by Imperialisium » Wed May 19, 2021 12:02 pm
Union Princes wrote:I forgot my MEs, I probably got a whole list of problems to sort through
by Antimersia » Wed May 19, 2021 12:04 pm
Herzpunkt wrote:consider this my reservationNationstates Name Herzpunkt
Nation Name Imperial State of Vietnam/ Nhà nước Đế quốc Việt Nam
Capital Hue
Type of Government Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State(s) Empress Phương Dang
Head of Government (if applicable) Prime Minister Vu Minh Anh
Picture of Leader(Image)
Party in Power National Conservative Party
Executive Title Prime Minister
Flag(Image)
Currency Dong/Imperial Dong
Population 94 Million
GDP 261.9 billion USD (2019)
GDP Growth 7%
Inflation 2.8 %
Population below poverty line 20.00%
Gini
Value of currency compared to United States Dollar 1 Dong to 0.000044 Dollars
Major trade partners Empire of Japan, Australia, Russian Empire
Total military size 482,000(army), 35,000 personnel (airforce), 50,000 (navy)
Breakdown of ground forces The Imperial Army of Vietnam is the Ground Force component of the Imperial Armed Forces, it's equipment includes: Type 74 tanks, Type 73 APC's, Type 87 ARV, etc etc, most receiving basic life extending modern upgrades.
Breakdown of naval naval forces The Imperial Navy of Vietnam is A Brown-Green Water Navy primarily tasked with coast guard(Imperial Naval Guard) and naval military duty's.
Breakdown of air forces The Imperial Air Force is the responsible for air supremacy and defense, focusing on defense with interceptors and multi-role craft.
Major foreign military suppliers if applicable: Primarily Japan, Vietnam normally acquires second hand Japanese military technology and upgrades it locally. Most weapon systems are therefore Japanese in origin baring some locally produced exceptions such as service rifles, handguns, etc.
Extra Armed Forces details
Ongoing major and minor domestic Issues
Religion Breakdown Buddhism is the largest branch in the nation, along with folk religion and Christianity(introduced by the French)
Political Breakdown
History
Organization Membership
Goals Public and Private
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by Madrinpoor » Wed May 19, 2021 1:35 pm
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed May 19, 2021 1:36 pm
by Deblar » Wed May 19, 2021 1:43 pm
Madrinpoor wrote:This is kind of a crazy idea, but I want to keep the Romanian monarchy. Could I say the Romanians partnered with the Turks/Nato to resist the Eastern Bloc (maybe with Bulgaria too)? Or is that too out there? I also had an idea where the monarchy was exiled, but not destroyed, and the Communists only lasted a short time before a NATO-backed coup put them back in power. Are any of these feasible?
by Madrinpoor » Wed May 19, 2021 1:46 pm
Deblar wrote:Madrinpoor wrote:This is kind of a crazy idea, but I want to keep the Romanian monarchy. Could I say the Romanians partnered with the Turks/Nato to resist the Eastern Bloc (maybe with Bulgaria too)? Or is that too out there? I also had an idea where the monarchy was exiled, but not destroyed, and the Communists only lasted a short time before a NATO-backed coup put them back in power. Are any of these feasible?
It could be, but i'd go with a version of the first one. Note that Russia never went Soviet, so communism isn't quite as popular, which also means the Romanian monarchy could've very well stayed in power.
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed May 19, 2021 1:47 pm
Madrinpoor wrote:Deblar wrote:It could be, but i'd go with a version of the first one. Note that Russia never went Soviet, so communism isn't quite as popular, which also means the Romanian monarchy could've very well stayed in power.
My gosh, I completely forgot! Nevermind then, thank you! I can just have the Romanian monarchy be buddies with the Russian monarchy, but fall out in the 80s and 90s because I want Romania to kind of be that country that talks a big game and wants to dominate the region, but if you actually go up against them it's all a facade (70s movie bully as a country). They should threaten and push around the other Balkan states, but maybe a Serbia (or whatever the name is) or Turkey could put them in their place. I dunno. It's all being brainstormed.
by Madrinpoor » Wed May 19, 2021 1:49 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Madrinpoor wrote:My gosh, I completely forgot! Nevermind then, thank you! I can just have the Romanian monarchy be buddies with the Russian monarchy, but fall out in the 80s and 90s because I want Romania to kind of be that country that talks a big game and wants to dominate the region, but if you actually go up against them it's all a facade (70s movie bully as a country). They should threaten and push around the other Balkan states, but maybe a Serbia (or whatever the name is) or Turkey could put them in their place. I dunno. It's all being brainstormed.
The big dog in the Balkans is Greece (me). Greece in this TL managed to keep Western Asia Minor and gain Cyprus, so it is the big power in the region. Turkey lost its independence war against Greece, so it is a lot weaker.
by Indiana Controlled Florida » Wed May 19, 2021 2:04 pm
Nationstates Name Indiana Controlled Florida
Nation Name Poland
Capital Warsaw
Type of Government Parliamentary Democracy
Head of State(s) Andrzej Duda
Head of Government (if applicable)
Picture of Leader
Party in Power Law and Justice [PiS]
Executive Title President
Flag
Currency Polish złoty
Population 37.97 million people
GDP 595.9 Billion USD
GDP Growth 4.5% annual change
Inflation 4.7%
Population below poverty line 6.4 million in poverty (17%)
Gini 30.2 percent
Value of currency compared to United States Dollar 1 Polish złoty equals 0.27 USD
Major trade partners Germany, Russia, and Sweden are the Major trading partners of Poland
Total military size
Breakdown of ground forces
The Polish Army is a medium sized force that was poorly equipped and barely trained. This is due to them relying on the people they are aligned with to protect them.
65,000 Active Soldiers
900 Tanks
1500 IFV/APC
150 Helicopters
Main Rifle: Poln M29
Breakdown of naval forces
The Polish Navy is barely used and barely funded by the polish government, leading to many ships falling apart.
1,200 Commissioned and Enlisted personal
48 Ships which includes:
2 frigates, 2 corvettes, 3 fast-attack craft, 21 mine destroyers, 5 mine layers, 4 salvage ships, 6 auxiliary ships and 2 training vessels.
Breakdown of air forces
The Air Force is the most funded branch in the Polish military, but it is barely used.
36,500 Personal
296 Aircraft
Main Aircraft Used in Air Force: PZL-130 Orlik
Major foreign military suppliers if applicable
Extra Armed Forces details
Ongoing major and minor domestic Issues
Polish Reliance on Allies
Poland has always been a weak nation, and has been relying on her allies since WW2. This of course leads to in confidence of the polish people.
Effect: Less manpower
People against the Government
About 21% of people in the country are socialists which had caused many protests against the government.
Effect: More likely to have a civil war
Decline in Jobs
The Decline in Jobs started when 60% of polish factories shut down
Effect: Economy growth will go down every month
Religion Breakdown
87% Roman Catholic
7% Jewish
3% Atheists
3% other religions
Political Breakdown
59% Law and Justice party supporters
27% United Right party supporters
6% United Poland party supporters
3% Agreement party supporters
5% support minor parties
The Sejm
United Right 235 seats
Law and Justice 202 seats
United Poland 19 seats
Agreement 14 seats
History
Organization Membership
Goals Public and Private
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by Madrinpoor » Wed May 19, 2021 2:14 pm
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed May 19, 2021 2:20 pm
Madrinpoor wrote:Deblar wrote:i also imagine Romania being a bit salty after losing Transylvania as a result of WW2, which may help give grounds to a considerably large extremist base in Romania
We lost Transylvania? I don't remember that in the history on the OP.
Also, Greece, can I steal King Constantine? You're using Paul so...
by Madrinpoor » Wed May 19, 2021 2:22 pm
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed May 19, 2021 2:23 pm
by Madrinpoor » Wed May 19, 2021 2:28 pm
by Monsone » Wed May 19, 2021 2:33 pm
Nationstates Name Monsone
Nation Name Argentina (La República Argentina/ Republic of Argentina)
Capital Buenos Aires
Type of Government Presidential Parliamentary Republic
Head of State(s) Daniel Scioli
Head of Government (if applicable) Daniel Scioli
Picture of Leader
Party in Power Justicialist Party (PJ)(Centrist Peronist party with a strong Menemist influence)
Executive Title President of the Argentine Nation
Flag
Currency Argentine Peso ($)
Population 47.6 million
GDP $1.554 trillion
GDP Growth 2.2% in 2020, averaging 2.0% over the last five years.
Inflation 4.5% (Due to currency peg to the US Dollar)
Population below poverty line 13.5%
Gini 38.4
Value of currency compared to United States Dollar (USD 1.00=ARS 5.00)(Currency pegged officially at a 1:5 ratio, the unofficial value ranges from 1:5 to 1:6.50)
Major trade partners UK, France, Germany, Japan, the USA, Venezuela, Chile, Mexico, Brazil, China, etc.
Total military size Across all branches of the armed forces, there is a total of 250,000 active service personnel with an equal number in reserve within reserve units.
Breakdown of ground forces
The Argentine Army is not a component of Argentina's strategic defense network, the army's goal is to defend Argentina's land borders, with little need or interest to project power abroad. No part of the Argentine nuclear triad is assigned to the army.
450 Main Battle Tanks (EE-T1 Osório)(Joint Argentine-Brazilian project in this timeline)(300 more in storage/reserve)
450 Medium Tanks (TAM)(Argentine made light medium tank)(300 more in storage/reserve)
450 Infantry Fighting Vehicles (TAM VCTP)Argentine made IFV based off of TAM chassis).
750 Armored Personnel Carriers (M113A3)(Argentine licensed production previously undertaken)
75 Self-Propelled Guns (TAM VCA)(155mm Self-Propelled Gun based off of TAM chassis)
75 Mortar Carriers (TAM VCTM)(120mm Mortar Carrier based off of TAM chassis)
150 Multiple Rocket Launch Systems (60 TAM VCLC, 90 CP-30)
150 Field Guns (CITER 155mm L/33)
75 Howitzers (OTO Melara Mod 56)
2,250 Mortars (Assorted mortars of Argentine construction, most are 120mm and 81mm, with not an insignificant number of 60mm mortars)
Breakdown of naval naval forces
The Argentine Navy is a semi-blue water force due to its main task being littoral patrol and defense, but having the equipment and training to perform blue water operations. The majority of Argentina's blue water operations are centered in the Atlantic and Antarctic oceans. The more secretive role of the navy is the operation of ballistic missile submarines that serve as a component of Argentina's nuclear triad.
Current Active Fleet:
4 Destroyers (4 Type 42 Class)(Heavily rebuilt and modified into air defense destroyers)
12 Frigates (6 Almirante Brown Class, 6 Espora Class)
4 Corvettes (Drummond Class)
10 Fast Attack Craft (Intrépida Class)
20 Patrol Boats (Baradero Class)
6 Diesel-Electric AIP Ballistic Missile Submarines (Modified TR-1700 Class)
10 Diesel-Electric AIP Attack Submarines (TR-1700/Santa Cruz Class)
4 Special Operations Diesel-Electric Submarines (Type 209/1200/Salta Class)(Rebuilt from attack submarines, used for electronic warfare and intelligence gathering)
2 Replenishment Tankers
3 Cargo Ships
1 Icebreaker
14 Tugs
Breakdown of air forces
The Argentine Air Force is tasked with the defense of Argentina's Air Space from foreign aggression. This includes the operation of fighter aircraft, and the nation's air defense network of radars, SAMs, and ABMs. The Argentine Air Force is also part of Argentina's nuclear triad and is part of its first-strike capability since it operates the nation's onshore ballistic missile fleet and nuclear-capable aircraft.
Air Force Aircraft:
150 Multirole Fighter Aircraft (FMA SAIA 90)
150 Trainer/Strike/Ground Attack Aircraft (FMA IA-63 Pampa)
30 Trainer Aircraft (15 T-6C Texan II, 15 Grob 120TP)
5 Tanker Aircraft (KC-130H)
15 Transport Aircraft (5 C-130H, 5 C-130H-30, 1 757-200, 1 737-500, 3 Dassault Falcon 900)
45 Helicopters (15 Mi-171, 15 Bell 412EPI, 2 S-70, 3 S-76, 10 MD500)
150 Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (Assorted Drones)
Air Force Ground-Based Equiptment:
3 Ballistic Missile Sillo Sites (150 sillos)
150 ABM/SAM Launchers (30 Battalions)
300 SAM Launchers (60 Battalions)
Naval Aircraft:
8 Maritime Patrol and Submarine Warfare Aircraft (P-3B)
8 Maritime Patrol and Transport Aircraft (Beechcraft 200)
10 Surface Fleet Helicopters (MH-60R)
10 Trainer/Patrol Helicopters (MD500)
15 Trainer/Light Attack Aircraft (T-6C Texan II)
75 Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (Assorted Drones)
Army Aircraft:
45 Attack Helicopters (AH-64D)
90 Transport Helicopters (45 UH-60M, 45 Bell 412EPI)
15 Trainer Helicopters (Bell 206 JetRanger)
450 Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (Assorted Drones)
Major foreign military suppliers if applicable
Prior to the 1980s, the US, UK, Germany, Italy, and France were Argentina's major military suppliers. However, Argentina has developed it's own very robust military-industrial complex that is fairly self-sustaining. Even prior to the 1980s, much of Argentina's military equipment was locally made, albeit licensed production of foreign designs. Currently, the Argentine military-industrial complex focuses on intra-regional cooperation with other arms manufacturers in Latin America (namely in Brazil). The current major foreign military suppliers for Argentina are still the US, UK, Germany, France, and Italy, as well as Brazil, Spain, and Israel.
Extra Armed Forces details
Argentina officially claims to have no nuclear arsenal, it is common knowledge both in Argentina and abroad that the Argentine nation possesses the bomb. There is no official information on how many nuclear weapons Argentina can field, but most estimates range from 100 to 300 in total (counting weapons in reserve). Interestingly, it's been suggested by some foreign observers that Argentina may have a no-first-use policy regarding its Schrödinger's WMDs.
Ongoing major and minor domestic Issues
Stability, But Growth?
The Argentine Economy has proven to be stable due to its peg to the dollar. And was able to weather the 2008 Financial Crisis fairly well. However, Argentina's fiscal policy is not conducive to high GDP growth. As long as the economy isn't completely stagnating, the government is not willing to stimulate economic growth beyond what is needed to keep the economy on track. This leaves Argentina in the conundrum of being stellar by Latin American standards on paper, but realistically a basket case compared to other global economies.
Effect: Slow but consistent economic growth, albeit at the cost of faster economic growth and higher returns due to higher risk investments. This makes the economy look like it's stagnating, and also means Argentina can be outperformed at times by other Latin American nations, which fosters resentment at home whenever it happens because of a strong sense of nationalism in Argentina.
Age Takes Its Toll
Due to Argentina's relatively high (by Latin American Standards) level of development, the country boasts an excellent life expectancy. But, this has taken place along with a drop in fertility rates that has hampered Argentina's population growth. While not below replacement rate (yet), the birth rates case concern for demographers. Sure, letting immigrants in solves the issue (and it's not something the population is against), but the greater concern is whether eventually even immigrants won't be sufficient to stem the decline.
Effect: A demographic crisis may be right over the horizon, and Argentina is ill-prepared to deal with it.
One-Party State
The last time a party besides the PJ won the elections was 1988, and even before that, since the days of Juan Peron, the PJ has had a near monolithic grip on power. Most of this can be attributed to a fractured opposition, but needless to say, this quasi one-party system does put an undue burden on Argentina's democratic institutions, with some critics even going as far as to call the PJ's monolithic rule an intermittent Blandidura (soft dictatorship). Not a huge issue in the short term, but it can cause issues in the long run.
Effect: Fosters some resentment towards the government for basically being the same for the last 30+ years.
Neutral to a Fault
Argentine Neutrality is best described as being a copy of Swiss Neutrality, but with an emphasis on bothsidesism when it comes to conflicts. If one side is being supplied by Argentina, the other side will also receive support. And when it comes to mediating conflicts, everything can be broken down to the simple phrase of "Equal Responsibility." While this has garnered Argentina the nickname: The Switzerland of South America, it also has caused Argentina to be viewed somewhat poorly by nations who view supporting both sides as being morally reprehensible.
Effect: Argentina occasionally ends up supporting genocide and human rights violations indirectly by selling weapons to the parties involved. A terrible image on the world stage for a nation supposedly trying to make peace and be neutral.
The Best of Both Worlds
Being a nation of immigrants, Argentina has benefited from immigration immeasurably. The nation's greatest minds were immigrants or children of immigrants, and this has allowed Argentina to become a melting pot of ideas and creativity furthered by successive governments who see the benefit of attracting skilled immigrants to the country. Argentina has had the luxury of picking and choosing the best parts of each culture and implementing them into mainstream culture. It also means Argentina has had many creative minds contributing to the bettering of the nation
Effect: Argentina due to adopting the best aspects of many cultures is the most productive and economically efficient country in Latin America, as well as the most innovative.
Religion Breakdown
62.9% Roman Catholic
15.3% Evangelical Christians
1.4% Other Christian Denominations
1.2% Other Religions
18.9% Unaffiliated
Political Breakdown
Chamber of Deputies (257 Seats):
Justicialist Party---129 seats
Radical Civic Union---63 Seats
United for a New Alternative---22 Seats
Progressives---13 Seats
Federal Commitment---11 Seats
Left and Worker's Front---9 Seats
We Are All Chubut---3 Seats
Senate (72 Seats):
Justicialist Party---42 Seats
Radical Civic Union---33 Seats
History
The Long Decline 1918-1930
Even before WW1, Argentina's peak of power and influence had already been reached. And the end of the conflict in Europe led to Argentina's main source of profit (feeding a continent too busy to grow its own food) dry up. Despite this, Argentina was still an incredibly wealthy nation, albeit a highly unequal one. The glamour of Buenos Aires hid rural poverty, and cities obscured for foreigners the miserable lives of peasants. Under the presidency of Hipólito Yrigoyen (1916-1930) however, things were changing for the better. Called the "Father of the Poor," Yrigoyen raised the standard of living for Argentinians in the middle class, in both the city and the countryside. But, these increases could not hide the fact that the Argentinian economy was stagnating, and Argentina was lagging behind. The Great Depression in 1929 wreaked havoc on the economy, and when the poor most needed him, Yrigoyen resigned due to health issues in 1930.
Troubles Years 1930-1932
Succeeding Yrigoyen was José Féliz Uriburu, a Lieutenant general, and the president of a caretaker government that would oversee the country until the end of Yrigoyen's term. Unfortunately for Argentina, Uriburu's government was comically bad and horridly inefficient. The economy practically entered a death spiral, and a fair bit of Yrigoyen's work was undone by the worsening economic situation. Corruption became prevalent, and in all honesty, at the time it seemed Argentina was close to collapse.
Normalization 1932-1944
Anyone was better than Uriburu, and so the nation chose Roberto María Ortiz to try and fix itself. Ortiz began his term by strengthening Argentinian democracy and dismantling the military's control over the nation. Following up these early reforms, Ortiz reinstituted many of Yrigoyen's policies and increased public spending on infrastructure and public works to recover from the Great Depression. Unsurprisingly this worked, and Argentina began to recover economically as sound fiscal policies and semi-competent leaders took charge of the problems at hand.
Dams, roads, railways, bridges, etc. These projects reduced unemployment, improved the nation's infrastructure, and boosted the economy. Ortiz was popular enough to win again in 1938 (in part due to the overall economic situation both at home and abroad improving). The second term of the Oritz Administration saw the beginning of the 2nd World War, and Argentina once again having to feed nations too busy to grow their own food. This, along with an emphasis on industrialization saw the Argentine economy flourish. Unfortunately, Ortiz would die in 1944, near the end of his second term, and never got to see the end of WW2. In the 1944 elections, a young army general would take power, and he would change Argentina permanently.
The Perón Years 1944-1972
Juan Peróm came to power at an inopportune time. Mere months into his tenure, the city of San Juan was leveled by an earthquake. However, Perón seized the challenge, and personally led relief efforts in the city, boosting his public image greatly. Under Perón's first term (1944-1950), a quasi-market social democracy emerged as worker's rights were strengthened, equal rights granted to all, universal healthcare rolled out, etc. These improvements managed to make Argentina once again one of the richest nations in the world by the time WW2 had ended. Perón's second (1950-1956) term would see increased prosperity due to more spending on public projects, favorable investment laws, and a push for Argentina to industrialize. Despite being officially neutral, Perón would cozy himself up to the western powers and paint himself (and Argentina) as a nice place for people to invest in. And invest they did! Throughout the end of Perón's second term, and throughout his third term (1956-1962), the Argentinian economy became the largest, and most modern economy in Latin America, only dwarfed in the Americas by the US, and to a lesser extent, Canada. Perón's fourth term (1962-1968) was basically a repeat of this third, but with even greater prosperity. It, however, would see the beginning of the Cold War. By the time of his fifth and final term (1968-1972), Perón was getting old. But this did not stop him from positioning himself as a staunch western ally by touring across the Americas and Western Europe with his wife Eva Perón while touting the virtues of the US and its allies. In 1972, due to advanced age, and health concerns, Perón refused to run for a sixth term. Instead, he retired along with his wife from politics, eventually dying in 1978, at the age of 81.
Opposition Rule and Dictatorship 1972-1990
Perón was first succeeded by Raúl Alberto Lastiri, a right-wing politician who also advocated for better relations with Russia. Under Lastiri's tenure (1972-1978), the economic boom brought about by Perón would continue (although growth was much slower), albeit Lastiri would focus greatly on private enterprise and making Argentina into a more neutral nation, in between both major blocs. Lastiri also oversaw the first of the oil shocks in 1973, causing him to adopt a much more pro-nuclear power stance. Unfortunately, Lastiri would die of natural causes before his term ended, and he was succeeded by a military dictatorship under Jorge Rafael Videla.
Videla is known as the Weapons President because under his tenure (1978-1988) Argentina vastly expanded its military-industrial sector, and is believed to have developed nuclear weapons with some assistance from Israel. While Videla nearly oversaw a war over the Falkland Island (emphasis on nearly due to some rouge Mirage III pilots), his much longer-lasting legacy is Argentina's greater self-sufficiency. Videla was a huge advocate for nuclear power and oversaw the construction of further nuclear power plants to make Argentina electricity self-sufficient. The IA-63 Pampa, FMA SAIA 90, TAM, and others would be developed under his rule, and the EE-T1 would be developed jointly with Brasil during the same time period. Internationally, Videla would follow in the footsteps of Lastiri, but Videla would also lay the groundwork for Mercosur by improving Argentina's relations with its neighbors. However, Videla would also oversee serious repressions against anyone opposing the regime, leading to his reign coinciding with the "Dirty War."
Luckily for most everyone involved, Videla was overthrown in 1989 by a popular revolution and replaced by a caretaker government headed by Raúl Alfonsín. Alfonsín's tenure would be short (1988-1990), but he oversaw the restoration of democracy and the strengthening of civic institutions as well as the total removal of any political power the army may have held. The 1990 elections saw Alfonsín replaced with Carlos Menem.
Modern Argentina 1990-Present
Menem would serve two terms (1990-2002) and is credited for Argentina's last great boom. Agriculture and industry would be focused upon, along with information technology and infrastructure construction. Menem respected democracy and was in general an average president characterized for building and improving ties with just about any nation, from the US to Russia, to Australia, China, and Japan. The lasting legacy of Menem's was his shift of the Justicialist Party towards the center and way from its traditionally center-left/left-wing stance as well as boosting Argentina's economy. In a democratic effort, Menem abstained from running for a third term and was replaced by Néstor Kirchner.
Kirchner basically left most of Menem's work untouched and instead focused on social programs and trying to aid the poor. This gained him plenty of support from the Argentine populace and allowed him to get re-elected in 2008. Unfortunately, Kirchner would have to deal with the stress of the 2008 Economic Crisis, and that ended up being what killed him. He died from a heart attack in 2010 and was succeeded by his wife and vice-president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner. Cristina Kirchner would however manage to botch the Argentine economy by attempting to peg the Peso and Dollar at a 1:1 ratio, causing further economic strife. This in turn led to her electoral defeat and replacement by Daniel Scioli.
Scioli is the current president of Argentina. His first task in office was to fix the Argentine economy by returning to Menem's policy of a 1:5 peg and loosening investment laws to make Argentina an attractive destination to do business in. That combined with a policy of Green Development and environmentalism made Scioli popular, resulting in him getting re-elected for a second term in 2020.
Organization Membership
Organization of American States, Mercosur, and the UN.
Goals Public and Private
Public: Further economic growth, carbon neutral by 2035, carbon-negative by 2050, increased tourism, incentivization of further investment in the economy, improving strained foreign relations, becoming the main arbiter of international conflicts, etc.
Private: Returning Argentina to its former glory through practically all means necessary. This is a long-term goal that has been ongoing in one shape or another since roughly 1950 and was turbocharged by Videla and his policy of semi-autarky.
Roleplay example link https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=503551&p=38607457&sid=4af084b6fcc9c9c96a19905920277dd5#p38607457
by Wasi State » Wed May 19, 2021 2:47 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Madrinpoor wrote:My gosh, I completely forgot! Nevermind then, thank you! I can just have the Romanian monarchy be buddies with the Russian monarchy, but fall out in the 80s and 90s because I want Romania to kind of be that country that talks a big game and wants to dominate the region, but if you actually go up against them it's all a facade (70s movie bully as a country). They should threaten and push around the other Balkan states, but maybe a Serbia (or whatever the name is) or Turkey could put them in their place. I dunno. It's all being brainstormed.
The big dog in the Balkans is Greece (me). Greece in this TL managed to keep Western Asia Minor and gain Cyprus, so it is the big power in the region. Turkey lost its independence war against Greece, so it is a lot weaker.
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed May 19, 2021 2:49 pm
Wasi State wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:
The big dog in the Balkans is Greece (me). Greece in this TL managed to keep Western Asia Minor and gain Cyprus, so it is the big power in the region. Turkey lost its independence war against Greece, so it is a lot weaker.
Don't forget me too as an alternate Yugoslavia .
And while communism wasn't as popular due to Russia remaining Tsarist, I do have it in my lore that communism still happened in the form of Titoism and Hoxhaism in Juzeuropa and Albania respectively, so a form of communism existing in Romania probably wouldn't be too far off at least in my opinion.
by Imperialisium » Wed May 19, 2021 2:53 pm
Wasi State wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:
The big dog in the Balkans is Greece (me). Greece in this TL managed to keep Western Asia Minor and gain Cyprus, so it is the big power in the region. Turkey lost its independence war against Greece, so it is a lot weaker.
Don't forget me too as an alternate Yugoslavia .
And while communism wasn't as popular due to Russia remaining Tsarist, I do have it in my lore that communism still happened in the form of Titoism and Hoxhaism in Juzeuropa and Albania respectively, so a form of communism existing in Romania probably wouldn't be too far off at least in my opinion.
by Wasi State » Wed May 19, 2021 2:53 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Wasi State wrote:Don't forget me too as an alternate Yugoslavia .
And while communism wasn't as popular due to Russia remaining Tsarist, I do have it in my lore that communism still happened in the form of Titoism and Hoxhaism in Juzeuropa and Albania respectively, so a form of communism existing in Romania probably wouldn't be too far off at least in my opinion.
lol indeed.
I wonder what kind of relation Greece and Juzeuropa would have. Greece historically has had good relations with Serbia, but the Macedonian naming dispute might be a problem (if your substate is called 'Macedonia' instead of some other name).
by Madrinpoor » Wed May 19, 2021 2:55 pm
Imperialisium wrote:Wasi State wrote:Don't forget me too as an alternate Yugoslavia .
And while communism wasn't as popular due to Russia remaining Tsarist, I do have it in my lore that communism still happened in the form of Titoism and Hoxhaism in Juzeuropa and Albania respectively, so a form of communism existing in Romania probably wouldn't be too far off at least in my opinion.
Aye, Communism is possible just it likely wouldn't be Marxist-Leninism. And it would have a weaker global movement. Romania can go whichever way really from 1945 to present. Since the only thing confirmed for Romania lore wise is that it did have monarchy for WW1 and did side with Germany during WW2.
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed May 19, 2021 2:58 pm
Wasi State wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:
lol indeed.
I wonder what kind of relation Greece and Juzeuropa would have. Greece historically has had good relations with Serbia, but the Macedonian naming dispute might be a problem (if your substate is called 'Macedonia' instead of some other name).
It's still called Macedonia, but that's more of a minor issue depending on how well your version of Greece handles a socialist reactionary state that has a history of occasional instability to its north. Though at the very least Juzeuropa isn't all that interested in Greek land, they mostly want to to beat the tar out of Hungary and take back Croatia and Slovenia.
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