A Victory in the East (Alternate History RP/OOC) Open

[Union Princes]

Now this is just asking for a war to break out in Asia. China is being boxed in.

[Imperialisium]

Now this is just asking for a war to break out in Asia. China is being boxed in.

to be honest at this point, if this line up starts in the RP, I'm going to bet either a series of flashpoints or a major conflict occurs in East Asia. Which may or may not spiral into involving others further abroad.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Now this is just asking for a war to break out in Asia. China is being boxed in.

to be honest at this point, if this line up starts in the RP, I'm going to bet either a series of flashpoints or a major conflict occurs in East Asia. Which may or may not spiral into involving others further abroad.

Japan doesn't want war at this point. Maybe a minor conflict, but not a total war. So there is room for negotiation. Although do note China would not be in the position to be too aggressive in the South China Sea or on its borders since if Vietnam is okay with a Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere type alliance, then Japan will be bound to defend them.

[Union Princes]

Oh Vietnam is not the problem, its better an Independent Vietnam rather than a Japanese or French one. It's everything else that's gonna be a problem.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Oh Vietnam is not the problem, its better an Independent Vietnam rather than a Japanese or French one. It's everything else that's gonna be a problem.

Don't worry too much so long as you don't care too much about contested coastal islands. Japan won't be aggressive where it doesn't have superiority.

Japan immediately just wants to secure the Senkaku, and some of the South China Sea islands.

[Herzpunkt]

consider this my reservation

Nationstates Name Herzpunkt

Nation Name Imperial State of Vietnam/ Nhà nước Đế quốc Việt Nam
Capital Hue
Type of Government Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State(s) Empress Phương Dang
Head of Government (if applicable) Prime Minister Vu Minh Anh
Picture of Leader

Party in Power National Conservative Party
Executive Title Prime Minister
Flag

Currency Dong/Imperial Dong
Population 94 Million
GDP 261.9 billion USD ‎(2019)
GDP Growth 7%
Inflation 2.8 %
Population below poverty line 20.00%
Gini
Value of currency compared to United States Dollar 1 Dong to 0.000044 Dollars
Major trade partners Empire of Japan, Australia, Russian Empire

Total military size 482,000(army), 35,000 personnel (airforce), 50,000 (navy)
Breakdown of ground forces The Imperial Army of Vietnam is the Ground Force component of the Imperial Armed Forces, it's equipment includes: Type 74 tanks, Type 73 APC's, Type 87 ARV, etc etc, most receiving basic life extending modern upgrades.
Breakdown of naval naval forces The Imperial Navy of Vietnam is A Brown-Green Water Navy primarily tasked with coast guard(Imperial Naval Guard) and naval military duty's.
Breakdown of air forces The Imperial Air Force is the responsible for air supremacy and defense, focusing on defense with interceptors and multi-role craft.
Major foreign military suppliers if applicable: Primarily Japan, Vietnam normally acquires second hand Japanese military technology and upgrades it locally. Most weapon systems are therefore Japanese in origin baring some locally produced exceptions such as service rifles, handguns, etc.
Extra Armed Forces details

Ongoing major and minor domestic Issues

Macro-Effects

Imperial Splendor
Vietnam's return to Monarchy has been a large boon to the nation, stability and economic prosperity has made a big come back. This "Imperial splendor" has seen a rebirth in national unity, diplomacy and of course architectural traditionalism.
Effect: Tourism Increased, Monarchies have increased opinion, Morale and nationalism increased

Zaibatsu Question
With Japans help in restoring Vietnamese glory and image came a cost. Japanese conglomerates have influenced our own nation with local version of them, not only do our conglomerates hold significant sway but so do Japans in our own land.
Effect: Actions against Japanese interests and business result in penalties, increased technology development, increased organized crime, Dependence on Japanese military surplus

Nuclear Eunic
The devastation from Nuclear weapons cannot be witnessed again, our constitution forbids it and our population would never accept it's return to the battlefield.
Effect: Severe political penalties for adoption of nuclear weapons, increased cost of nuclear power, Weapons of Mass Destruction banned from military use.




Religion Breakdown Buddhism is the largest branch in the nation, along with folk religion and Christianity(introduced by the French)
Political Breakdown National Conservative Party(Monarchist, Nationalist, Conservative, Capitalist) 70% / Vietnamese Workers party(Socialist) 10% / Vietnamese Democratic Front(Capitalist, Democratic, anti-monarchist) 20%
History Things go the same for Vietnam up until around the Vietnam war era, where the United States dropped nuclear weapons onto Vietnam. These two bombs devastated both sides of the conflict from a moral sense. The Communists were blamed for bringing about the destruction due to their disregard for Vietnamese culture and traditions along with their alignment with China, and the Capitalist south was blamed as a the hand that helped dropped the bombs in the first place. This led to Japan taking a much more active geo-political role and once again restoring the Monarchy in Vietnam. The "Tokyo-Hue Accords" were made in a bid to united the war torn nation. A constitutional monarchy was implemented similar to that of Japan(though a bit less restricted), the constitution that was drafted enshrined both Northern and Southern Vietnamese concerns. The capitol was returned to the imperial city of Hue. Free enterprise in the South and increased workers rights in the North, among many other smaller issues. Now the nation is similar to modern day Japan, though more head fast in it's economic success. Japan is now Vietnams primary ally and has developed the vietnamese equivlant of zaibatsu's called tập đoàn. Now the two cities of Haiphong and Hanoi, which were both atomized, have been rebuilt and are monuments to the victims of nuclear weapons. The Imperial State's constitution also forbids the use of nuclear weaponry as well, leading to some internal tensions politically.
Organization Membership Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere
Goals Public and Private

Public: Build up local military manufacturing, maintain a show of strength in the south china sea, deal with remnant communist groups, pressure for nuclear dearmament
Private: Disrupt Chinese ambitions, gain more autonomy from Japanese business and clamp down local Vietnamese organized crime.

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[Imperialisium]

consider this my reservation

Nationstates Name Herzpunkt

Nation Name Imperial State of Vietnam/ Nhà nước Đế quốc Việt Nam
Capital Hue
Type of Government Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State(s) Emperor
Head of Government (if applicable)
Picture of Leader
Party in Power National Conservative Party
Executive Title
Flag

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Currency Dong/Imperial Dong
Population 94 Million
GDP 261.9 billion USD ‎(2019)
GDP Growth 7%
Inflation 2.8 %
Population below poverty line 20.00%
Gini
Value of currency compared to United States Dollar 1 Dong to 0.000044 Dollars
Major trade partners Empire of Japan, Australia, Russian Empire

Total military size
Breakdown of ground forces
Breakdown of naval naval forces
Breakdown of air forces
Major foreign military suppliers if applicable
Extra Armed Forces details

Ongoing major and minor domestic Issues

Religion Breakdown Buddhism is the largest branch in the nation, along with folk religion and Christianity(introduced by the French)
Political Breakdown
History
Organization Membership
Goals Public and Private

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alright, I'll update the roster/reservations shortly

[Monsone]

I'd like to reserve Argentina, if it is still open.

[Imperialisium]

I'd like to reserve Argentina, if it is still open.

It is, consider it reserved

[Union Princes]

Okay, my app is done. I probably might change the flag. Doesn't look too Soviet enough for me but better than some of the other choices.

[Imperialisium]

Nationstates Name Union Princes

Nation Name Chinese Soviet Republic
Capital Nanjing
Type of Government Federal One-Party Soviet Socialist Republic/ One-Party Totalitarian Police State
Head of State(s) Xi Jinping in a white suit
Head of Government Xi Jinping
Picture of Leader

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Party in Power United Chinese Soviet Party
Executive Title Comrade General Secretary (official)/Comrade (Formal)
Flag

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Currency Renminbi
Population 1.2 billion
GDP $15 trillion
GDP Growth 17%
Inflation 2%
Population below poverty line 17%
Gini 48
Value of currency compared to United States Dollar 1: 0.16 US dollar
Major trade partners US, Russia, India, South East Asia, Korean Peninsula, Europe

Total military size 10.3 million
Breakdown of ground forces
Being the most populated country in the world, it's not that surprising that the CSR has the most active-duty and reserve-duty personnel in the world, with nearly 4 million serving in the Chinese Soviet Army. In addition, another 2 million serve in the paramilitary branch in the form of the Chinese Soviet Gendarmerie. However, the CSG is sworn to the CCP, specially the State Council, rather than the country itself. Although conscription is mandatory to all young males and females, the sheer influx of volunteers meant that enforcing conscription was never really needed. Yet all 18-year-olds have to register at their local conscription center.

The traditional army doctrine of the CSA revolves around the concept of "Army in being." A strategy in which China would use its vast manpower pools to force the enemy to overextend their forces, allowing the much larger Chinese army to strike the weakest point or attacking in a vast offensive to overrun the enemy.

6 million active/4 million reserve
Breakdown of naval naval forces
In order to combat the IJN and compete with the US, the Chinese Soviet Republic is currently building its own blue water fleet, laying down a foundation for four fleet carriers, a dozen heavy cruisers, and numerous screens and boats.
300k Active
Breakdown of air forces
Soviet China has reasonable air capabilities but only on a local level. Most of its technology was either homemade or has origins in Germany, Russia, or the US. The fifth-generation stealth fighter is an example of the former.
100k active
Major foreign military suppliers if applicable Germany, US, Russia
Extra Armed Forces details
The Chinese Soviet Gendarmerie is specially used for crowd control, internal armed conflicts, prison security, or safeguarding highly important facilities. In wartime, they are usually assigned for local defense and rear area security. Due to being staffed and led by fanatical nationalists, the CSG has earned the unflattering nickname as the "Red SS."
Ongoing major and minor domestic Issues

Religion Breakdown

• 60% No Religion/Chinese Folk
• 18% Buddhist
• 5% Christian
• 1% Islam

Political Breakdown
No other Political Party is allowed in the CSR
History
Before the Chinese Soviet Republic ever existed, the country that stood the highest chance to unite China was the Republic of China under the Kuomintang. At first, it was a centrist political umbrella movement encompassing both right and left-wing camps allowing it to make ties with the US, Germany, and Russia. Founded by Sun Yet-Sen and succeeded by Chiang Kai-Shek, the KMT sought to reunite China from the feuding warlords. Because the ROC was the largest contender for legitimacy and that the KMT had many socialist and communist elements, it became a hotspot for Russian Bolsheviks who were still unsatisfied by the Tsar’s reforms. One such Bolshevik was Leon Trotsky, a bookworm and experienced military man.

Because of the budding friendship with Trotsky and the patronage of left-leaning literature and art, Chiang Kai-Shek earned himself the nickname “Red Protector” despite being a traditionalist with no patience for communist dogma. While the Sino-German Agreement did produce German equipment and training to the fledgling NRA, it was Leon Trotsky who completely reinvented the KMT army into a truly fearsome force to be reckoned with.

Before the 2nd Sino-Japanese War broke out, the unexpected happened as Chiang Kai-Shek purged the right-wing elements of the KMT in the middle of a Northern Expedition to subjugate Ma Clique. No one could decisively pinpoint the exact reason as Chiang wasn’t a communist devotee himself. Indeed, Western scholars debated that the opposite was supposed to happen while Chinese scholars explained that it was Chiang’s close friendships with Mao and Trotsky against the distant relationship with the Right Wing KMT members that forced the purge to secure Chiang’s own power. Whatever the case, Red Terror descended the streets as communists and socialists targeted Chinese who had fascist sympathies. Estimated 30,000 Chinese were executed for their monarchist or fascist views.

The only person spared from the purge was Dai Lee, much to the horror of Mao Zedong. Mao incidentally warned Chiang that “Dai Li would use our colors to paint fascism red!” and pleaded with him to purge Dai Lee as well. However, Chiang refused as the “Chinese Himmler” proved himself invaluable to the KMT due to his extensive spy network throughout China, going as far as Korea and Taiwan. With the unexpected death of Kang Sheng, it was only a matter of time that Mao’s words be proven true.

By the time the 2nd Sino-Japanese War of 1937 came around, the ROC had already gained an international reputation as a “red” state pitted against an ultramilitarist nation of Japan. The Eight Years of Resistance, as taught in Chinese schools, was harsh, brutal, and grueling as tens of millions of Chinese soldiers and civilians died to the Samurai. But at the darkest hour did the KMT shine its brightest as the labor of Dai Lee, Mao Zedong, and Leon Trotsky borne fruit. Even when Japan had superior technology, it did not have the manpower to fully conquer China and so it engaged in an unwinnable war of attrition as the constant harassment of communist guerrillas made sure that Japan bled for every piece of land taken.

When the US and the Allied powers finally brought War to Japan, the ROC finally took the initiative and launched a massive offensive to liberate as much territory as possible. The NRA could have easily rolled up the Japanese army and reclaim Manchuria but Russia threatening intervention forced Chiang into a pre-antebellum status quo. A white peace to be exact yet the island of Hainan remained under Japanese control much to the frustration of the ROC.

Deeply saddened that China still remains a puppet to the Western Powers, Chiang fell into a deep depression over this failure to unify the country and in 1947, died in his family home. A brief power struggle erupted between Mao Zedong, Wang Jingwei, and Dai Li. Much to Mao’s fears, the influence of the Chinese Himmler ran deep in the KMT party and the government as a whole. Before Mao nor Wang could unite in opposition, Dai Li already unleashed his secret Redshirt Society to systematically take down Mao’s and Wang’s powerbase in what is to be known as the Great Purge. Over 700,000 KMT members would be quickly arrested and executed while the infamous “Trial of Twenty One” was broadcasted in China as Wang was forced to confess to false crimes of collaboration with Imperial Japan.

From there, Dai Li reorganized the Republic of China to the Chinese Soviet Republic, a new kind of dragon that would bring fire to the Asian continent. The Five-Year Plans of Dai Li would prove themselves successful in rapidly industrializing China albeit at a massive human cost of 20 million dying of starvation or disease. While his legacy would be the five-year plans that modernize China, Dai Li was secretly infiltrating Japanese occupied territories, funding independence movements in Korea, Manchuria, and Vietnam, and building up communist cells in Tibet, Mongolia, and Sinkiang.

When Dai Li died in 1978 at age 78, his successor Deng Xiaoping began a regime marked by three extremes: the first nuclear test in 1979, the liberalization of the economy in 1981, and the Tiananmen Square Coup. Deng quoted an old proverb to justify turning away from a command control economy “It doesn’t matter whether a cat is black or white. If it catches mice, it is a good cat.” Under Deng, state intervention was reduced, foreign investment returned, and new Special Economic Zones were created with free markets. Ironic that the cities chosen were once forced open to trade by the Europeans during the 19th century. This quite literally caused the Chinese economy to explode past Japan and landed firmly to be the 3rd largest economy in the world.

However, his biggest failure lay in Hong Kong and Macau. The two European nations were adamant that they kept the cities and refused to negotiate with Deng. With very few international sympathies at the time, the Chinese Soviet Republic was forced to back down and stew in anger. Dejected, Deng resumed his economic reform policies completely unaware of the storm he was concocting.

The Nanjing Coup, or the Battle of Nanking in Western Circles, can be summarized as a single clusterf*ck as it was a three-way stand-off between the government, communists, and democratic leaving students. Indeed, while Deng’s reforms were an outstanding boon for China as a whole, they alienated the orthodox Marxists in the military while simultaneously exposing the civilian population to liberal ideas such as republicanism. Long story short, the Government thought the Students were protesting against the Marxist army units marching into the capital while the Students thought the Marxist were marching with them while the Marxists thought a countercoup was already in place with the Students and the Government united against them. It was only when the Loyalist divisions arrived did the blood start flowing in Nanjing. 30,000 people died in the ensuing chaos that thankfully ended rather quickly.

But it did spark a crisis in the UCSP: Are they still communists?

Deng could not answer as he resigned that same year and was succeeded by Jiang Zemin, who mostly continued Deng’s economic reforms and pushed for Chinese unification. After the Nanjing Coup, Jiang would spend his foreign policy mostly building up relationships with the US, Germany, India, and Russia trying to clean up some of the negativity surrounding the CSR. His departure in 2002 will see Xi Jinping be placed in power. From then on, China started to embark on a more aggressive stance concerning Chinese unification over Mongolia, Manchuria, Sinkiang, Tibet, and the port cities of Hong Kong and Macau.

Organization Membership United Nations
Goals Public and Private
Public: Unification of China, Decolonization of South Asia, Liberalization of the economy,
Private: Limiting Russian influence, Limiting Japanese influence, Limiting American Influence
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Accepted

[Kenobot]

Now this is just asking for a war to break out in Asia. China is being boxed in.

I mean I feel like I'm gonna have to step in for no other reason than to stop Japanese hegemony in Asia, so you have at least one ally of convenience probably

[Imperialisium]

I see potential arms deals...

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

I see potential arms deals...

In the case of rapid remilitarization, Japan might consider buying older Russian equipment to outfit its puppet armies.

If Russia was willing to sell Japan might want to try out some Russian jets or maybe a few S-400s as well when it announces its new defense budget near the start of the IC.

[Kenobot]

I see potential arms deals...

In the case of rapid remilitarization, Japan might consider buying older Russian equipment to outfit its puppet armies.

If Russia was willing to sell Japan might want to try out some Russian jets or maybe a few S-400s as well when it announces its new defense budget near the start of the IC.

In the case of rapid remilitarization, Australia would be doing everything it could do slow that down and get NATO involved and we'd make overtures to the Russians to not supply the Japanese, because a hegemonic Japan in Asia is a danger to everyone in the region; Russia included.

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

In the case of rapid remilitarization, Japan might consider buying older Russian equipment to outfit its puppet armies.

If Russia was willing to sell Japan might want to try out some Russian jets or maybe a few S-400s as well when it announces its new defense budget near the start of the IC.

In the case of rapid remilitarization, Australia would be doing everything it could do slow that down and get NATO involved and we'd make overtures to the Russians to not supply the Japanese, because a hegemonic Japan in Asia is a danger to everyone in the region; Russia included.

Russia is supposedly a quasi-ally of Japan, and since there aren't any historical or territorial disputes, Japan would likely actually have good relations with Russia.

Its purchase would be more of a diplomatic thing and be about cooperation than gaining new capabilities since Japan already has some advanced weapons and has the capability of producing equal weapons domestically. It just under this new leadership has the capability to expand the defense budget which would allow it to make said purchases. Likely the Imperial Japanese defense budget for 2021 will be close to $85 billion plus around $30 billion in "aid" to its puppet militaries as well as its allies.

[Kenobot]

In the case of rapid remilitarization, Australia would be doing everything it could do slow that down and get NATO involved and we'd make overtures to the Russians to not supply the Japanese, because a hegemonic Japan in Asia is a danger to everyone in the region; Russia included.

Russia is supposedly a quasi-ally of Japan, and since there aren't any historical or territorial disputes, Japan would likely actually have good relations with Russia.

Its purchase would be more of a diplomatic thing and be about cooperation than gaining new capabilities since Japan already has some advanced weapons and has the capability of producing equal weapons domestically. It just under this new leadership has the capability to expand the defense budget which would allow it to make said purchases. Likely the Imperial Japanese defense budget for 2021 will be close to $85 billion plus around $30 billion in "aid" to its puppet militaries as well as its allies.

Much as they might have good relations and no historical enmity between them, a hegemonic Japan is bad for Russia. A strong Japan is ok for them as a buffer, but not strong enough to dominate Asia. At least that's what an IR Realist would think

[Sao Nova Europa]

Everyone already speaking of war I see?

Meanwhile Greece will be providing incentives for foreign investment. You fight, we get rich.

[Arvenia]

Can I be a very powerful UAR (United Arab Republic) that consists of Iraq, Syria, Kuwait and Khuzestan?

[Kenobot]

Everyone already speaking of war I see?

Meanwhile Greece will be providing incentives for foreign investment. You fight, we get rich.

I mean with the largest Greek city outside of Greece and Cyprus (Melbourne), we'd be more than happy to do trade and investment with Greece! Particularly given you're one of the few proper democracies as of yet

[Sao Nova Europa]

Everyone already speaking of war I see?

Meanwhile Greece will be providing incentives for foreign investment. You fight, we get rich.

I mean with the largest Greek city outside of Greece and Cyprus (Melbourne), we'd be more than happy to do trade and investment with Greece! Particularly given you're one of the few proper democracies as of yet

We would be glad to be working with you then.

[Deblar]

Cuba when war breaks out in Asia:

[Deblar]

I'd like to reserve Argentina, if it is still open.

Oh yay, more buddies in Latin America

Can I be a very powerful UAR (United Arab Republic) that consists of Iraq, Syria, Kuwait and Khuzestan?

That’s would certainly be interesting. Considering we already have a pending Lebanon, that would make it especially interesting

[Union Princes]

Given that both sides have nuclear weapons, it is very important for conflict to be limited otherwise East Asia will go up in flames.

[Imperialisium]

Can I be a very powerful UAR (United Arab Republic) that consists of Iraq, Syria, Kuwait and Khuzestan?

Yes.