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Middle Barael
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Postby Middle Barael » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:51 pm

RPwise, is it ok to make loopholes for WA legislation? And can a nation OOC adhere to the WA legislation (not that they have any choice), but IC refuse to adhere to a certain law? I mean IRL countries break international law all the time
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Separatist Peoples
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:55 pm

Middle Barael wrote:RPwise, is it ok to make loopholes for WA legislation? And can a nation OOC adhere to the WA legislation (not that they have any choice), but IC refuse to adhere to a certain law? I mean IRL countries break international law all the time

IC noncompliance has extremely stiff IC penalties per the Administrative Compliance Act.

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Walfo
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Walfo » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:04 am

Quick question! Does a co-author of a resolution need to be a member of the WA?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:22 am

Walfo wrote:Quick question! Does a co-author of a resolution need to be a member of the WA?

No

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Traden
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Postby Traden » Wed May 05, 2021 8:15 am

Question: What resolution did Caracasus make?
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Bananaistan
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Postby Bananaistan » Wed May 05, 2021 8:17 am

Traden wrote:Question: What resolution did Caracasus make?


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Walfo
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Postby Walfo » Fri May 07, 2021 7:39 am

Hello again. As my proposal is now in the final stages. I was wondering, how you get a proposal to the voting stage through campaigning? I have been told that there is an automated program you can get access to. Just starting to figure this out, so I appreciate the help!
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Laka Strolistandiler
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Tue May 11, 2021 5:26 am

Will attempting to submit a draft that further regulates punishments for failure to pay non-compliance fines result in it being banned due to being illegal?

Before you ask why me, a non-compliant nations wants to make such a draft, my queen had basically purged (not physically mainly simply fired) from governmental positions most of the people who pushed non-compliance laws, and some riots, which happened mainly in colonies were suppressed by heavily armed military police.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue May 11, 2021 3:12 pm

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Will attempting to submit a draft that further regulates punishments for failure to pay non-compliance fines result in it being banned due to being illegal?

Before you ask why me, a non-compliant nations wants to make such a draft, my queen had basically purged (not physically mainly simply fired) from governmental positions most of the people who pushed non-compliance laws, and some riots, which happened mainly in colonies were suppressed by heavily armed military police.

That would depend entirely on the specific draft.

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Traden
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Postby Traden » Mon May 17, 2021 11:25 am

If a proposal passes and is then repealed, will the author of the proposal still keep the GA badge?
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Drew Durrnil
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Anarchy

Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon May 17, 2021 11:26 am

Traden wrote:If a proposal passes and is then repealed, will the author of the proposal still keep the GA badge?

Yes.
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Berlin and Hanover
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Postby Berlin and Hanover » Mon May 17, 2021 2:54 pm

I am currently making a proposal for a post a few months ago that it appears the OP has given up upon, would I be allowed to make and improve upon it into an actual proposal as long as I say that it was co-authored by that person?

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Jedinsto
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Postby Jedinsto » Mon May 17, 2021 2:56 pm

Berlin and Hanover wrote:I am currently making a proposal for a post a few months ago that it appears the OP has given up upon, would I be allowed to make and improve upon it into an actual proposal as long as I say that it was co-authored by that person?

If you're saying you want to use someone else's work as your own, no. Ask the person for permission first, and you should draft it on the forums to make sure there is no direct plagiarism and nobody confuses it for plagiarism.

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Berlin and Hanover
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Postby Berlin and Hanover » Mon May 17, 2021 2:59 pm

Jedinsto wrote:
Berlin and Hanover wrote:I am currently making a proposal for a post a few months ago that it appears the OP has given up upon, would I be allowed to make and improve upon it into an actual proposal as long as I say that it was co-authored by that person?

If you're saying you want to use someone else's work as your own, no. Ask the person for permission first, and you should draft it on the forums to make sure there is no direct plagiarism and nobody confuses it for plagiarism.

Alrighty, thanks. Also, no, I wasn't trying to plagiarize. It just appears that the person has given up on it, so I ant to reword it and do some other things of cource so that its much better, so yeah, I will reach out to em. Thanks for the fast response by the way! :D

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Postby Araraukar » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:01 pm

Berlin and Hanover wrote:Alrighty, thanks. Also, no, I wasn't trying to plagiarize. It just appears that the person has given up on it, so I ant to reword it and do some other things of cource so that its much better, so yeah, I will reach out to em. Thanks for the fast response by the way! :D

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Molotovsk
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Postby Molotovsk » Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:24 am

Is there already a resolution restricting climate change?

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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:43 am

Molotovsk wrote:Is there already a resolution restricting climate change?


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Molotovsk
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Postby Molotovsk » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:37 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Molotovsk wrote:Is there already a resolution restricting climate change?


viewtopic.php?p=35010138#p35010138


How about one for extraterrestrial natural disasters, such as meteors?

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Potted Plants United
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Potted Plants United » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:43 am

Molotovsk wrote:How about one for extraterrestrial natural disasters, such as meteors?

Meteors are just small space rocks (that, if they hit a planetary body, burn up in the atmosphere), not disasters. Meteorites (small space rocks that hit a planetary body and some their mass survives to the ground) are not natural disasters either. An asteroid hit might be, but there's not really anything most nations are going to be able to do about them anyway, so trying to legislate on them would be fairly useless. Also, it stops being extraterrestrial the moment it hits a planet's surface. :P

However, there is a general "natural disaster preparedness" resolution, read that to see if it covers what you could reasonably expect someone on RL Earth to do about asteroids.
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Molotovsk
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Postby Molotovsk » Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:43 pm

Potted Plants United wrote:
Molotovsk wrote:How about one for extraterrestrial natural disasters, such as meteors?

Meteors are just small space rocks (that, if they hit a planetary body, burn up in the atmosphere), not disasters. Meteorites (small space rocks that hit a planetary body and some their mass survives to the ground) are not natural disasters either. An asteroid hit might be, but there's not really anything most nations are going to be able to do about them anyway, so trying to legislate on them would be fairly useless. Also, it stops being extraterrestrial the moment it hits a planet's surface. :P

However, there is a general "natural disaster preparedness" resolution, read that to see if it covers what you could reasonably expect someone on RL Earth to do about asteroids.


That resolution got repealed. Also, I'm thinking of hurricanes now. Is that are open?

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Potted Plants United
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Postby Potted Plants United » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:56 pm

Molotovsk wrote:That resolution got repealed.

No it didn't.

Molotovsk wrote:Also, I'm thinking of hurricanes now. Is that are open?

You can find out for yourself. Just remember when searching the thread that the search function thinks "hurricane" and "hurricanes" are two completely unrelated search terms. Though do be aware that even in RL hurricanes/typhoons/tropical storms are not a global issue in the sense that it only tends to be tropical-coastal nations that have to deal with them. So requiring all nations to prepare for them would be as sensible as requiring all nations to acquire thousands of snowplows to prepare for blizzards, despite not all nations ever seeing a blizzard.
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Molotovsk
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Postby Molotovsk » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:54 am

My proposal, Protecting Disabled Inmates, became illegal after a review by GenSec. It did not make it to quene, but I think it was not illegal. Why did this happen.

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The New Nordic Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The New Nordic Union » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:19 am

Molotovsk wrote:My proposal, Protecting Disabled Inmates, became illegal after a review by GenSec. It did not make it to quene, but I think it was not illegal. Why did this happen.


GenSec gives their reasonings for marking proposals illegal. In your case, this was 'Duplication of existing legislation (GAR#540)'.
If you want to dispute this (and in general before you post proposals), I recommend you start a thread here on the forums to draft. This might lead to a non-illegal and highly improved version of your proposal.
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Kenmoria
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Kenmoria » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:20 am

Molotovsk wrote:My proposal, Protecting Disabled Inmates, became illegal after a review by GenSec. It did not make it to quene, but I think it was not illegal. Why did this happen.

Reasoning for GenSec decisions is provided in the box below the proposal. In this case, the proposal was marked as illegal for “Duplication of existing legislation (GAR#540)”. GA #540 is Supporting People with Disabilities, and it covers much the same area, albeit broader in scope, as your proposal tried to. Although minor duplication to expand on a particular area is permissible, in this case, the duplication was not sufficiently minor to warrant legality.

EDIT: Nordic Union got there before me. I also recommend starting a drafting thread, because there might be some room for you to expand on this particular area of disability rights, in order to avoid duplication.
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The Hazar Amisnery
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Postby The Hazar Amisnery » Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:18 pm

If I took a resolution from the UN such as this one and edited it (irl resolutions are very long and link to non-Nationstates things), would it be allowed? It shouldn't be plagiarism if you aren't getting anything out of it and it has no effect on anything. No one would know unless they keep track of UN Resolutions.
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