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by Sao Nova Europa » Tue May 04, 2021 10:16 am
by Emazia » Tue May 04, 2021 10:51 am
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Jackson smiled politely as Sharp rambled on. "I thank you for your praise," he said. "As for what I did in the Great War, well... you can always buy a copy of my autobiography to find out." Jackson laughed.
Jackson listened carefully to what Turner had to say. "I have to say that I am intrigued by your offer," he said, "but right now my primary objective is to win the Republican nomination. My support is consistently in the high forties and despite a few bumps in the way, I believe I will be able to win the nomination. The GOP has already an established party machinery and if captured by conservatives, it would further our message greatly. That is not to say I oppose your conservative super-party idea. I would gladly accept their support for my run and would be more than happy to accept their nomination, whether I win the GOP primaries or not. However, right now I am focusing on winning the Republican primaries."
"I also have to be straightforward and honest with you," Jackson continued. "If I become Presidential candidate, hopefully by winning the Republican primaries, I will not be able to offer you the vice-presidency. Do not take this as me not regarding you highly. You know that I do. You also know that I value your abilities. As President, I will offer you a place in my administration - assuming you want to join it. I am thinking of perhaps Secretary of Defense. If you do not want to join my administration, you could always have a place in my proposed bipartisan committee about racial issues, in which you will be able to champion your views and shape its direction. However, I cannot offer you the position of vice-president. My campaign staff has done extensive research and polling, and has concluded that the best way to win the general elections is to have a more moderate candidate as my vice-president. Someone who will be able to assure moderates that they can trust us instead of voting for the other guy out of fear. Unfortunately, winning the South alone will not get us the White House; nor will appealing to hardcore conservatives be enough. We also need to win the moderate vote too. That does not mean giving up our ideas or selling out our message; my candidacy is perhaps the most conservative in years. But we need to cooperate with moderates to get our agenda through. I am being straightforward with you because I consider you a friend."
by Emazia » Tue May 04, 2021 12:49 pm
by Deblar » Tue May 04, 2021 12:54 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Deblar wrote:(Quick note: I’m going to say this call comes the day after Marshal’s funeral)
James sat in his home office, as he usually did, his mind all over the place. His thoughts went from yesterday’s funeral, to his House of Representatives campaign, to his family. Only when the phone on his desk suddenly rang did he snap out of it. When he picked up, he was quite surprised to hear General Jonathan Jackson’s voice on the other end of the phone.
“Oh, General Jackson, what a..pleasant surprise. How’s it going?”
"I've been campaigning nonstop, which is kinda tiring but generally speaking I am fine," he said. "I called you to both express my condolences for the events in Louisiana and to talk with you about my national campaign. I am aiming to bring unity to this nation. A House Divided cannot stand. My proposal is for a bipartisan committee to look into the issues of civil rights and come to a compromise acceptable by the majority of Americans. I hope that you will be part of this committee - assuming I become President of course - and I also hope we can meet in person to both discuss possible solutions and compromises on civil rights and the other issues - social and economic - facing the colored community. I intent to be a President of all Americans."
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue May 04, 2021 1:58 pm
Emazia wrote:Turner nodded along and listened. "Don't worry, my friend, it was just a hypothetical. It'd take quite exceptional circumstances for there to be a Republican/Democratic unity ticket, even if ideologically aligned. All I offered was my support, and I don't expect VP in return, only a helping hand in the Senate. If there is a Democratic majority - as there has been for so long - I'm sure we could build a strong enough majority to slice off the liberal Democrats. Without the South, the Democratic Party is simply the union machine of some bearded socialist in West Virginia or Minnesota.
While the idea of a double conservative ticket from the Democratic and Republican parties is very interesting and would diminish liberal influence significantly, I understand your reticence. If Mrs. Fraser won the Democratic primary you would have our support to take a conservative agenda to the White House. All we ask is your cooperation in Congress and nothing more. You would get the Southern states regardless of your VP pick, as long as he doesn't turn out to be some liberal lunatic like [not-Nelson Rockefeller]."
by Sao Nova Europa » Tue May 04, 2021 2:05 pm
Deblar wrote:James listened, pondering for a bit after he was finished. “Hmm...what kind of compromises may you have in mind?”
by Newne Carriebean7 » Tue May 04, 2021 2:45 pm
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.
Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption
by Emazia » Tue May 04, 2021 2:56 pm
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Emazia wrote:Turner nodded along and listened. "Don't worry, my friend, it was just a hypothetical. It'd take quite exceptional circumstances for there to be a Republican/Democratic unity ticket, even if ideologically aligned. All I offered was my support, and I don't expect VP in return, only a helping hand in the Senate. If there is a Democratic majority - as there has been for so long - I'm sure we could build a strong enough majority to slice off the liberal Democrats. Without the South, the Democratic Party is simply the union machine of some bearded socialist in West Virginia or Minnesota.
While the idea of a double conservative ticket from the Democratic and Republican parties is very interesting and would diminish liberal influence significantly, I understand your reticence. If Mrs. Fraser won the Democratic primary you would have our support to take a conservative agenda to the White House. All we ask is your cooperation in Congress and nothing more. You would get the Southern states regardless of your VP pick, as long as he doesn't turn out to be some liberal lunatic like [not-Nelson Rockefeller]."
"I will of course work with you and other conservative Democrats to further a conservative agenda in Congress," Jackson replied. "As for my VP pick, you need not worry about it. The man I have in mind is bipartisan and moderate, but he is not a career politician and his expertise lies mainly in foreign policy rather than domestic affairs. As such, you will not have to worry about him being a liberal. He will bring foreign policy expertise but shall not upset Southern sensibilities."
by Newne Carriebean7 » Tue May 04, 2021 3:03 pm
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.
Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption
by Emazia » Tue May 04, 2021 3:15 pm
Newne Carriebean7 wrote:Senator Joshua Sharp nodded his head, stood up and motioned his hand for the senior senator from Mississippi to follow him. They both walked out of the hotel as Sharp squinted outside at the surprisingly frigid air. After a solid little while of walking, both came to a park bench, where Sharp sat and turned to Turner.
"What it is- what is it? Why the need for privacy young man?"
by Newne Carriebean7 » Tue May 04, 2021 3:29 pm
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.
Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption
by Cybernetic Socialist Republics » Tue May 04, 2021 5:37 pm
Logan, West Virginia
Governor Fraser Meets with residents of Logan, West Virginian, discusses 'Battle of Blair Mountain', insists that "General Jackson doesn't believe in our constitution, is danger to the republic'
March 10th, 1959
by Newne Carriebean7 » Tue May 04, 2021 9:01 pm
Cedar Grove, Mississippi
Joshua Sharp meets with residents of his native Cedar Grove, blasts General Jackson for "Incompetence and wrecklessness", argues Jackson 'failed us in Korea' will 'fail us again in Vietnam'.
March 11, 1959
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.
Former Carriebeanian president Carol Dartenby sentenced to 4 years hard labor for corruption and mismanagement of state property|Former Carriebeanian president Antrés Depuís sentenced to 3 years in prison for embezzling funds and corruption
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed May 05, 2021 8:18 am
by Emazia » Wed May 05, 2021 9:01 am
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Emazia wrote:Turner nodded along and listened. "Don't worry, my friend, it was just a hypothetical. It'd take quite exceptional circumstances for there to be a Republican/Democratic unity ticket, even if ideologically aligned. All I offered was my support, and I don't expect VP in return, only a helping hand in the Senate. If there is a Democratic majority - as there has been for so long - I'm sure we could build a strong enough majority to slice off the liberal Democrats. Without the South, the Democratic Party is simply the union machine of some bearded socialist in West Virginia or Minnesota.
While the idea of a double conservative ticket from the Democratic and Republican parties is very interesting and would diminish liberal influence significantly, I understand your reticence. If Mrs. Fraser won the Democratic primary you would have our support to take a conservative agenda to the White House. All we ask is your cooperation in Congress and nothing more. You would get the Southern states regardless of your VP pick, as long as he doesn't turn out to be some liberal lunatic like [not-Nelson Rockefeller]."
"I will of course work with you and other conservative Democrats to further a conservative agenda in Congress," Jackson replied. "As for my VP pick, you need not worry about it. The man I have in mind is bipartisan and moderate, but he is not a career politician and his expertise lies mainly in foreign policy rather than domestic affairs. As such, you will not have to worry about him being a liberal. He will bring foreign policy expertise but shall not upset Southern sensibilities."
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed May 05, 2021 9:32 am
Emazia wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:
"I will of course work with you and other conservative Democrats to further a conservative agenda in Congress," Jackson replied. "As for my VP pick, you need not worry about it. The man I have in mind is bipartisan and moderate, but he is not a career politician and his expertise lies mainly in foreign policy rather than domestic affairs. As such, you will not have to worry about him being a liberal. He will bring foreign policy expertise but shall not upset Southern sensibilities."
Turner arrived back from scolding Sharp.
"It seems Senator Sharp's having a few...problems. I may have to intervene in the Presidential campaign, general, and I hope you won't take it personally."
by Sao Nova Europa » Wed May 05, 2021 10:35 am
by Emazia » Wed May 05, 2021 10:38 am
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Emazia wrote:Turner arrived back from scolding Sharp.
"It seems Senator Sharp's having a few...problems. I may have to intervene in the Presidential campaign, general, and I hope you won't take it personally."
"I will not," Jackson replied. "I assume this concludes our meeting? Unfortunately, as you will find out if you go on with your decision, campaigning for President leaves you little free time."
by Deblar » Wed May 05, 2021 10:40 am
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Deblar wrote:James listened, pondering for a bit after he was finished. “Hmm...what kind of compromises may you have in mind?”
"That is not for me to decide," Jackson admitted. "I wish to institute a bipartisan committee, so that committee may come up with an acceptable to all compromise. I do not want to impose my vision top down, rather I wish that after a broad discussion the committee comes to an agreement. That is why I seek to fill this committee with peoples representing both North and South, Republicans and Democrats, whites and colored. That's why I wish to have someone like you too on the committee, to give your opinions and ideas. My hope is that the committee will reach a compromise accepted by the majority of folks."
"That's why I want to hear your opinion. Your perspective. Which compromises you are willing to accept. I do not want to lecture you or tell you my own views, as my intention is not to impose my personal views. I also wish to speak with you, in person, about the economical and social problems faced by the colored community. I want you to explain me how we can help the colored community. I believe my tax cuts, which shall foster economic growth, will help the colored community too but I am willing to also consider additional measures specifically for uplifting the colored community."
by Louisianan » Thu May 06, 2021 8:28 am
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Jonathan Jackson telephoned the President. "President Henry Davis?" he asked. "It's General Jonathan Jackson. I need to speak with you."
by Sao Nova Europa » Thu May 06, 2021 8:42 am
Louisianan wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:Jonathan Jackson telephoned the President. "President Henry Davis?" he asked. "It's General Jonathan Jackson. I need to speak with you."
"Hello?" said the president as he flipped through a sales catalog, "I hope this is important, my private line has been filling up with so many people who I barely even know. Representatives and such, I'll definitely have a good bit of those calls diverted from me from now on." Noticing his rambling, he returned to the topic, "Anyway, what do you want?"
by Louisianan » Thu May 06, 2021 8:53 am
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Louisianan wrote:"Hello?" said the president as he flipped through a sales catalog, "I hope this is important, my private line has been filling up with so many people who I barely even know. Representatives and such, I'll definitely have a good bit of those calls diverted from me from now on." Noticing his rambling, he returned to the topic, "Anyway, what do you want?"
"I fully understand what you are going through," Jackson joked, trying to lighten the mood. "I've been getting many calls too. But I shouldn't waste your time, my old friend. I am calling about Fraser and his recent allegations. I know that you want to keep the Republican Party united and avoid infighting. That's why last time we had a phone talk, you counseled me to avoid creating any headlines that would indicate infighting. However, while I have avoided even mentioning the Governor's name and criticizing him only occasionally on points on policy, he has been slandering my name with atrocious accusations, such as insinuating that I am an enemy of the Constitution or a would be tyrant. Those are serious accusations. Do mind you, I would have no problem with strong debate on policy and character, but slander on such scale is on another level entirely. To keep this call short, I am simply informing you that there shall be no 'truce' anymore in the primaries and unfortunately the arrangement we've agreed upon will not be kept up."
by Sao Nova Europa » Thu May 06, 2021 8:55 am
Louisianan wrote:Sao Nova Europa wrote:
"I fully understand what you are going through," Jackson joked, trying to lighten the mood. "I've been getting many calls too. But I shouldn't waste your time, my old friend. I am calling about Fraser and his recent allegations. I know that you want to keep the Republican Party united and avoid infighting. That's why last time we had a phone talk, you counseled me to avoid creating any headlines that would indicate infighting. However, while I have avoided even mentioning the Governor's name and criticizing him only occasionally on points on policy, he has been slandering my name with atrocious accusations, such as insinuating that I am an enemy of the Constitution or a would be tyrant. Those are serious accusations. Do mind you, I would have no problem with strong debate on policy and character, but slander on such scale is on another level entirely. To keep this call short, I am simply informing you that there shall be no 'truce' anymore in the primaries and unfortunately the arrangement we've agreed upon will not be kept up."
"Never before, never before, have I seen something as atrocious as the Fraser campaign. I've spoken to Mrs. Fraser, and if her husband is as stubborn as her then neither of them have a place in this institution. Go ahead, attack her back, but if our infighting causes us to lose the general, your ass is on the line." Henry said, leaning back in his chair
by Sao Nova Europa » Thu May 06, 2021 9:12 am
by United Socialist Territories » Thu May 06, 2021 11:13 am
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