The Napoleonic Wars(Alt-Hist)(OOC)(OPEN)

by **Bolslania** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:14 am

Following the French Revolution, the French monarchy has fallen into ruin, and the Great Powers of Europe watch with unease as a new political figure takes control of the new French Republic.

Napoleon Bonaparte, a Corsican Artillery Officer, arose in France as a unifying political figure, bringing the restless French populace to heel. In 1805, Austria and Russia, sensing the danger to their power in Europe, launch an attack against Napoleon's France, where they are soundly defeated at Austerlitz, and the weakened Holy Roman Empire collapses. Later that same year, Britain defeats France and Spain at sea, securing their survival against the onslaught of Napoleon's army.

The Napoleonic Wars was a complex time period of alliances, warfare, and political machinations that took place over 15 years. The actions of the leaders of Europe defined how the wars took place.

But what if they had made different decisions? What would the outcome of Austerlitz had been if all of Europe united against Napoleon? Would the juvenile French Republic been crushed before it was 10 years old? Or would all of the European military powers been defeated, and Napoleon's conquest of Europe secured? This is where you come in. As a leader of a nation in this time period, what will you do? Will you side with Napoleon in the hopes that he doesn't turn on you? Will you take up arms against le Grande Armee? Or will you stay neutral and hope you don't come to the Emperor's attention? This is for you to decide.

This RP will start in 1799. POINT OF DIVERGENCE, flexible, but between 1400 and 1790

Nation Name: Kingdom of Prussia
Leader: Fredrick Wilhelm III
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Territory: East and West Prussia, Brandenburg, Silesia
Population:10,700,000
Army Size and breakdown:
Prussian Army: 116,000 men commanded by Field Marshal Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher
German Corps (North German Federal Army): 25,000 men commanded by General Friedrich Graf Kleist von Nollendorf
Navy size and breakdown: None
Main trading partners/ allies: Trades regularly with the United States, Russian Empire, British Empire, and Austrian Empire. No major allies
Current position on Napoleon (allied, against, neutral): Neutral
Major domestic issues: Army has degraded, using out of date equipment, and is much smaller and less disciplined that it was under Friedrich Wilhelm II.
Major foreign issues: No major military allies

History: In the early 1700s the Duchy of Prussia gained full autonomy from the Kingdom of Poland, becoming the Kingdom of Prussia. The first King of Prussia, Friedrich Wilhelm I, started a series of military and political reforms, Prussia soon became a prominent military power, having the fourth largest army in Europe. The opportunity for work in Prussia brought many Germans, Slavs, and Austrians into Prussia, giving even more manpower to Prussia. Under Friedrich Wilhelm I, Prussia would strengthen its ties with the Margraviate of Brandenburg, soon absorbing it into the Kingdom of Prussia. Friedrich Wilhelm I would be succeeded by his son, Friedrich Wilhelm II. While there were worries that Friedrich Wilhelm II was more focused on philosophy and art rather than war and statesmanship, Friedrich II would prove himself capable of both, defeating the Austrians in the Silesian War. Friedrich Wilhelm II would earn a moniker that not many earn, the Great. Friedrich the Great would go on to reopen the University of Berlin, introduce new crops to Prussia, and expand the territory of Prussia to the east in the First Partition of Poland.

However, he would die in 1797, being succeeded by his son, Friedrich Wilhelm III. He would not be as militarily focused as his predecessors, and would leave the military to another noble. The Military would then fall into decline, and Friedrich Wilhelm III would fail to expand Prussia's political influence.

RESERVED- RESERVATIONS LAST FOR 1 WEEK

Langenia - Netherlands (2/7 days)

Irisaurezsertoe - Swiss Confederacy (0/7 days)

ROSTER-

Kingdom of Prussia- Bolslania

Tatarstan- Sao Nova Europa

French Republic- Ovstylap

Duchy of Bavaria- Romextly

United States of America- Deblar

Austrian Empire- Trenaka

Kalmar Union- Hopal

The Kingdom of Egypt/Outremer/Al-Farnja- Chinniwana

Ottoman Sultanate- Imperium of Rus

Qing Empire- Zarnicovia Nova

Roman Republic (1798 edition) - Northern Poland

United States of Mexico- American Pere Housh

Mughal Empire - Knockout Gun Gals

by **Sao Nova Europa** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:20 am

Reserving rl Russian Empire + Mongolia + Manchuria.

Alt history in which Russia remains under Golden Horde/Mongol rule. Will elaborate more in actual app.

by **Sao Nova Europa** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:00 am

Nation Name: Empire of Tatarstan
Leader: Khan Boroghul

Type of Government: Absolute Monarchy

The Empire's elites are the descendants of the four Mongol clans, Qiyat, Manghut, Sicivut and Qonqirat. The absolute monarch of the Empire is the Khan. While in the past the Khan was chosen by the Kurultai, since the 15th century succession has been by primogeniture, with the Kurultai only symbolically crowning the new Khan.

The Khan is assisted in his rule by the Beklare-bek, the Prince of Princes (or Prime Minister, as he is known by Westerners). He is the chief executive of the Council of Viziers. The power of the Beklare-bek depends on the reigning Khan; when Khans are weak or have little interest in governance, the Beklare-bek govern whereas when the Khans are strong or dominating personalities, the Beklare-bek simply execute their wishes.

The Viziers are the Ministers of the Empire. The Empire has six ministries:

Ministry of Personnel, in charge of appointments, promotions & demotions of officials and the granting of honorific titles.
Ministry of Rites, in charge of state ceremonies & rituals and the maintenance of palace protocol.
Ministry of Revenue, in charge of collecting taxes, handling state revenues and gathering census data.
Ministry of War, in charge of appointments, promotion & demotion of military officers, maintenance of military installations and equipment, supply of the military and leadership in times of war.
Ministry of Justice, in charge of the judicial and penal process.
Ministry of Works, in charge of government construction programs and maintenance of infrastructure.

Aside from the Viziers, the Grand Mufti enjoys the status of a 'Minister' being in charge of religious affairs and ensuring that the Vizier of Justice follows Islamic Law.

Below are the Basqaqs, local governors. Each Basqaq holds both civil and military authority within a province, being responsible for levying taxes, administrating justice, and defending it. Each Basqaq is assisted by an elaborate bureaucracy of Secretariats (Secretariat of Justice, Secretariat of Treasury, Secretariat of War, etch). The Secretariats are staffed by the local land-holding elites, the Dvoryanstvo (nobles). The Dvoryanstvo, despite their name, are not 'aristocrats' in the Western-sense of the word: rather they are big landowners who own sizeable property cultivated by serfs.

While the offices of Beklare-bek and Viziers are reserved for the descendants of the Mongol tribes, the rest of the offices are open to Russians, who dominate most of the mid and lower ranks of administration. The Russians also make up the largest part of the Dvoryanstvo.

Territory:

MAP NOTE: INSTEAD OF ALASKA, I HAVE MANCHURIA

Population: 40,000,000
Army Size and breakdown:

The ‘Flying Horse Banner’, named so after their banner that features a horse with wings, is comprised of around 80,000 men provided by the Mongol, Manchu and various Siberian tribes. The vast majority of them are horsemen. In most cases, the regiments correspond to the tribe of origin, thus forging strong bonds between the men.

The ‘Standard Army’, comprised of about 180,000 soldiers, is staffed almost exclusively by Russians. The vast majority of soldiers are either infantrymen or artillery corps. They are divided into 180 Battalions.

The 'Imperial Guard' is comprised of 10,000 elite cavalrymen and infantrymen. Selected by the best of the best, they are equipped with the best weapons and equipment available.

Navy size and breakdown:

The Black Sea Fleet possesses five line-of-battle ships and 19 frigates, and the Baltic Fleet has 23 ships of the line and 130 frigates. The navy is, however, underfunded compared to the land forces and the lack of naval traditions means that the Empire's naval commanders lack the skills of their counterparts in sea-faring nations.

Main trading partners/ allies: Ottoman Empire, Great Britain
Current position on Napoleon (allied, against, neutral): Neutral but leaning to Against - The Empire has not taken active action against Napoleon but they view him as a threat.
Major domestic issues:

Modernization: While the Empire is large and its armed forces numerous, it has not industrialized and remains largely agrarian. Its armed forces have also been lagging behind in comparison to more modernized armies of other European powers.

Serfdom: While many European states have moved past serfdom, Tatarstan remains reliant on serfs for its agrarian economy. The bad living conditions of many of the serfs has created social unrest. While there is no active revolt or uprising, if not addressed this social unrest will weaken the Empire.

Major foreign issues:

Islamic Empire in a Christian Europe: As an Islamic power in a largely Christian Europe, the Empire faces suspicion and distrust. It is viewed as the 'Other', an 'alien' regime.

Asia and Europe: Due to the large size of the Empire, it needs to handle situations both at Europe and Asia. This does not allow Tatarstan to concentrate its resources at one front.

History:

Tokhtamysh, after reunifying the Golden Horde, managed to successfully resist Tamerlane's invasions of 1391 and 1395. In a series of campaign he brought back under central control the various breakaway Khanates, preventing the disintegration of Tatar power.
Temür Qutlugh (1405 - 1431) managed to successfully bring the various Russian principalities back under Tatar domination. Moscow was burned to the ground. He also put down revolts by tribal chieftains who wanted to assert their local autonomy. Having strengthened his rule, he was able to impose upon the Kurultai the principle of succession by primogeniture.
In the rest of the 15th century, a number of Khans reigned who mostly concentrated on keeping the Russian principalities in line and expanding into Siberia and Central Asia. During this time, with the Russian principalities weakening and under far more tight Tatar oversight, Islam began to spread. While until that point Islam was mostly followed by the Tatars, Russians soon began converting.
Khan Erdeni (1510 - 1551) was one of the most remarkable Khans of the Empire. He abolished the Russian principalities and the old tribal divisions of the Horde, instead creating new Provinces ruled by Governors (Basqaqs) appointed by him. He constructed many new mosques and pursued far more aggressively than his predecessors the Islamization of the Russians. He conquered large parts of Siberia and brought much of Central Asia under his rule, with the local Khaganates becoming subjects of the Tatar Khan.
Between 1551 and 1700 a number of Khans ruled, with various degrees of success. Tatarstan grew to encompass the entirety of Siberia and Manchuria. In those 150 years, Islam continued to spread among the Russians and by 1700 the vast majority of the Russians had converted to Islam.
Khan Tseren (1700 - 1731) modernized the Tatar military by bringing European - mostly German - military advisers. He laid the groundwork for the Imperial Navy after capturing ports at Azov and the Baltic Sea, and pursued a successful war against Sweden. He moved the capital of the Empire to Yediublugh (rl Saint Petersburg).
Khan Arinasai (1731 - 1771) focused on domestic issues rather than foreign expansion, but during his reign the Empire fought in the War of Austrian Succession (1740–48) and the Seven Years' War (1756–63). His successor, Khan Yargai (1771 - 1791), oversaw the partition of Poland: Tatarstan managed to grab a big part of Poland.
Khan Boroghul (1791 - ) is the current Khan of Tatarstan

by **Bolslania** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:25 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Nation Name: Empire of Tatarstan
Leader: Khan Boroghul

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Type of Government: Absolute Monarchy

The Empire's elites are the descendants of the four Mongol clans, Qiyat, Manghut, Sicivut and Qonqirat. The absolute monarch of the Empire is the Khan. While in the past the Khan was chosen by the Kurultai, since the 15th century succession has been by primogeniture, with the Kurultai only symbolically crowning the new Khan.

The Khan is assisted in his rule by the Beklare-bek, the Prince of Princes (or Prime Minister, as he is known by Westerners). He is the chief executive of the Council of Viziers. The power of the Beklare-bek depends on the reigning Khan; when Khans are weak or have little interest in governance, the Beklare-bek govern whereas when the Khans are strong or dominating personalities, the Beklare-bek simply execute their wishes.

The Viziers are the Ministers of the Empire. The Empire has six ministries:

Ministry of Personnel, in charge of appointments, promotions & demotions of officials and the granting of honorific titles.
Ministry of Rites, in charge of state ceremonies & rituals and the maintenance of palace protocol.
Ministry of Revenue, in charge of collecting taxes, handling state revenues and gathering census data.
Ministry of War, in charge of appointments, promotion & demotion of military officers, maintenance of military installations and equipment, supply of the military and leadership in times of war.
Ministry of Justice, in charge of the judicial and penal process.
Ministry of Works, in charge of government construction programs and maintenance of infrastructure.

Aside from the Viziers, the Grand Mufti enjoys the status of a 'Minister' being in charge of religious affairs and ensuring that the Vizier of Justice follows Islamic Law.

Below are the Basqaqs, local governors. Each Basqaq holds both civil and military authority within a province, being responsible for levying taxes, administrating justice, and defending it. Each Basqaq is assisted by an elaborate bureaucracy of Secretariats (Secretariat of Justice, Secretariat of Treasury, Secretariat of War, etch). The Secretariats are staffed by the local land-holding elites, the Dvoryanstvo (nobles). The Dvoryanstvo, despite their name, are not 'aristocrats' in the Western-sense of the word: rather they are big landowners who own sizeable property cultivated by serfs.

While the offices of Beklare-bek and Viziers are reserved for the descendants of the Mongol tribes, the rest of the offices are open to Russians, who dominate most of the mid and lower ranks of administration. The Russians also make up the largest part of the Dvoryanstvo.

Territory:

(Image)

MAP NOTE: INSTEAD OF ALASKA, I HAVE MANCHURIA

Population: 40,000,000
Army Size and breakdown:

The ‘Flying Horse Banner’, named so after their banner that features a horse with wings, is comprised of around 80,000 men provided by the Mongol, Manchu and various Siberian tribes. The vast majority of them are horsemen. In most cases, the regiments correspond to the tribe of origin, thus forging strong bonds between the men.

The ‘Standard Army’, comprised of about 180,000 soldiers, is staffed almost exclusively by Russians. The vast majority of soldiers are either infantrymen or artillery corps. They are divided into 180 Battalions.

The 'Imperial Guard' is comprised of 10,000 elite cavalrymen and infantrymen. Selected by the best of the best, they are equipped with the best weapons and equipment available.

Navy size and breakdown:

The Black Sea Fleet possesses five line-of-battle ships and 19 frigates, and the Baltic Fleet has 23 ships of the line and 130 frigates. The navy is, however, underfunded compared to the land forces and the lack of naval traditions means that the Empire's naval commanders lack the skills of their counterparts in sea-faring nations.

Main trading partners/ allies: Ottoman Empire, Great Britain
Current position on Napoleon (allied, against, neutral): Neutral but leaning to Against - The Empire has not taken active action against Napoleon but they view him as a threat.
Major domestic issues:

Modernization: While the Empire is large and its armed forces numerous, it has not industrialized and remains largely agrarian. Its armed forces have also been lagging behind in comparison to more modernized armies of other European powers.

Serfdom: While many European states have moved past serfdom, Tatarstan remains reliant on serfs for its agrarian economy. The bad living conditions of many of the serfs has created social unrest. While there is no active revolt or uprising, if not addressed this social unrest will weaken the Empire.

Major foreign issues:

Islamic Empire in a Christian Europe: As an Islamic power in a largely Christian Europe, the Empire faces suspicion and distrust. It is viewed as the 'Other', an 'alien' regime.

Asia and Europe: Due to the large size of the Empire, it needs to handle situations both at Europe and Asia. This does not allow Tatarstan to concentrate its resources at one front.

History:

Tokhtamysh, after reunifying the Golden Horde, managed to successfully resist Tamerlane's invasions of 1391 and 1395. In a series of campaign he brought back under central control the various breakaway Khanates, preventing the disintegration of Tatar power.
Temür Qutlugh (1405 - 1431) managed to successfully bring the various Russian principalities back under Tatar domination. Moscow was burned to the ground. He also put down revolts by tribal chieftains who wanted to assert their local autonomy. Having strengthened his rule, he was able to impose upon the Kurultai the principle of succession by primogeniture.
In the rest of the 15th century, a number of Khans reigned who mostly concentrated on keeping the Russian principalities in line and expanding into Siberia and Central Asia. During this time, with the Russian principalities weakening and under far more tight Tatar oversight, Islam began to spread. While until that point Islam was mostly followed by the Tatars, Russians soon began converting.
Khan Erdeni (1510 - 1551) was one of the most remarkable Khans of the Empire. He abolished the Russian principalities and the old tribal divisions of the Horde, instead creating new Provinces ruled by Governors (Basqaqs) appointed by him. He constructed many new mosques and pursued far more aggressively than his predecessors the Islamization of the Russians. He conquered large parts of Siberia and brought much of Central Asia under his rule, with the local Khaganates becoming subjects of the Tatar Khan.
Between 1551 and 1700 a number of Khans ruled, with various degrees of success. Tatarstan grew to encompass the entirety of Siberia and Manchuria. In those 150 years, Islam continued to spread among the Russians and by 1700 the vast majority of the Russians had converted to Islam.
Khan Tseren (1700 - 1731) modernized the Tatar military by bringing European - mostly German - military advisers. He laid the groundwork for the Imperial Navy after capturing ports at Azov and the Baltic Sea, and pursued a successful war against Sweden. He moved the capital of the Empire to Yediublugh (rl Saint Petersburg).
Khan Arinasai (1731 - 1771) focused on domestic issues rather than foreign expansion, but during his reign the Empire fought in the War of Austrian Succession (1740–48) and the Seven Years' War (1756–63). His successor, Khan Yargai (1771 - 1794), oversaw the partition of Poland: Tatarstan managed to grab a big part of Poland.
Khan Boroghul (1794 - ) is the current Khan of Tatarstan

Looks good, approved

by **Hopal** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:43 am

Looks Interesting, What year is this starting in? Also I'm going to reserve Scandinavia so Sweden, Denmark, and Norway.

by **Bolslania** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:45 am

Hopal wrote:Looks Interesting, What year is this starting in? Also I'm going to reserve Scandinavia so Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and Finland.

I'm going to add this to the OP, but right before the war of the 2nd Coalition, so 1798.

by **Chinniwana** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:57 am

I would like to reserve Egypt if possible. I would also like to know what the Point of Divergence is between the real Napoleonic Timeline and this one, as it might determine whether I play a Crusader Egypt or a Shi'ite Caliph Egypt.

by **Irisaurezsertoe** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:29 pm

Reserving the Old Swiss Confederacy.

It will be a much more interventionist one than the Swiss were OTL, and one where the Swiss are still nominally part of the HRE (but are still de facto independent). I don't do applications well so it'll probably be simple.

by **Deblar** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:42 pm

reserving the United States

by **Hopal** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:03 pm

I'm preparing an app for if the Kalmar Union still exists but was made the United Kingdom of Scandinavia in the Treaty of Kalmar, it might take while though I'll try to get it up by this weekend.

by **Orostan** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:34 pm

Nation Name: French Republic
Leader: Paul Barras/Napoleon Bonaparte
Type of Government: Republic
Territory: Real Life French territory and client states.
Population: 29,000,000
Army Size and breakdown: 1 million to 1.3 million men at peak organized into multiple armies, but not all concentrated in one spot. The number of men in the French Army fluctuates greatly due to conscription policies.
Navy size and breakdown: 83 ships of the line, 74 frigates, 45 corvettes and 32 smaller ships.
Main trading partners/ allies: France is allied with Spain, Bavaria, and several other smaller countries in Europe. France has a colonial empire as well.
Current position on Napoleon (allied, against, neutral): Napoleon thinks Napoleon is great.
Major domestic issues:

-Directory government is very corrupt and prone to indecision
-Military is very large but non-professional in nature.
-Navy decimated by revolution.
-Country still has not recovered in many ways from French Revolution

Major foreign issues:

-France has been pressing Austria for more territory and making more demands.
-France has many enemies, and cannot concentrate a massive number of men in one spot to simply overwhelm them during wartime.
-The French government has difficulty controlling its generals in many cases, and they operate with a great degree of autonomy.

History:

After the French King was overthrown the French directorate was established. Following foreign attempts to destroy the French Revolution in the war of the first coalition France has been able to gain territory and establish smaller republics around it.

France is identical to France in real life.

by **Bolslania** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:44 pm

Orostan wrote:Nation Name: French Republic
Leader: Paul Barras/Napoleon Bonaparte
Type of Government: Republic
Territory: Real Life French territory and client states.
Population: 29,000,000
Army Size and breakdown: 1 million to 1.3 million men at peak organized into multiple armies, but not all concentrated in one spot. The number of men in the French Army fluctuates greatly due to conscription policies.
Navy size and breakdown: 83 ships of the line, 74 frigates, 45 corvettes and 32 smaller ships.
Main trading partners/ allies: France is allied with Spain, Bavaria, and several other smaller countries in Europe. France has a colonial empire as well.
Current position on Napoleon (allied, against, neutral): Napoleon thinks Napoleon is great.
Major domestic issues:

-Directory government is very corrupt and prone to indecision
-Military is very large but non-professional in nature.
-Navy decimated by revolution.
-Country still has not recovered in many ways from French Revolution

Major foreign issues:

-France has been pressing Austria for more territory and making more demands.
-France has many enemies, and cannot concentrate a massive number of men in one spot to simply overwhelm them during wartime.
-The French government has difficulty controlling its generals in many cases, and they operate with a great degree of autonomy.

History:

After the French King was overthrown the French directorate was established. Following foreign attempts to destroy the French Revolution in the war of the first coalition France has been able to gain territory and establish smaller republics around it.

France is identical to France in real life.

Accepted

All reservations approved

by **Monsone** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:47 pm

Hmm, looks very interesting, I'd like to reserve Great Britain.

by **Orostan** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:11 pm

Bolslania wrote:
Orostan wrote:Nation Name: French Republic
Leader: Paul Barras/Napoleon Bonaparte
Type of Government: Republic
Territory: Real Life French territory and client states.
Population: 29,000,000
Army Size and breakdown: 1 million to 1.3 million men at peak organized into multiple armies, but not all concentrated in one spot. The number of men in the French Army fluctuates greatly due to conscription policies.
Navy size and breakdown: 83 ships of the line, 74 frigates, 45 corvettes and 32 smaller ships.
Main trading partners/ allies: France is allied with Spain, Bavaria, and several other smaller countries in Europe. France has a colonial empire as well.
Current position on Napoleon (allied, against, neutral): Napoleon thinks Napoleon is great.
Major domestic issues:

-Directory government is very corrupt and prone to indecision
-Military is very large but non-professional in nature.
-Navy decimated by revolution.
-Country still has not recovered in many ways from French Revolution

Major foreign issues:

-France has been pressing Austria for more territory and making more demands.
-France has many enemies, and cannot concentrate a massive number of men in one spot to simply overwhelm them during wartime.
-The French government has difficulty controlling its generals in many cases, and they operate with a great degree of autonomy.

History:

After the French King was overthrown the French directorate was established. Following foreign attempts to destroy the French Revolution in the war of the first coalition France has been able to gain territory and establish smaller republics around it.

France is identical to France in real life.

Accepted

All reservations approved

can’t wait to have a gamer moment against the Austrians.

by **Bolslania** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:01 am

Monsone wrote:Hmm, looks very interesting, I'd like to reserve Great Britain.

Reservation approved

by **Chicken Town** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:57 am

Could I reserve Spain? I am planning to have a Spain that is pretty much identical to OTL, but maybe with some minor differences.

EDIT: Whoops wrong account. This is New Jacobland.

by **Bolslania** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:21 am

Chicken Town wrote:Could I reserve Spain? I am planning to have a Spain that is pretty much identical to OTL, but maybe with some minor differences.

EDIT: Whoops wrong account. This is New Jacobland.

New Jacobland reserving Spain

Reservation approved

Orostan wrote:
Bolslania wrote:
Accepted

All reservations approved

can’t wait to have a gamer moment against the Austrians.

-Napoleon Bonaparte, circa 1805

by **Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:41 am

Hmmm, I am somewhat interested, but I am a bit confused. The PoD is 1792, but Russia has an entirely different PoD. That makes it a little hard to make a proper alt-history with just the 1792 PoD.

by **Bolslania** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:51 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Hmmm, I am somewhat interested, but I am a bit confused. The PoD is 1792, but Russia has an entirely different PoD. That makes it a little hard to make a proper alt-history with just the 1792 PoD.

Yeah I'll probably push it back by several centuries

by **Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:53 am

Bolslania wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Hmmm, I am somewhat interested, but I am a bit confused. The PoD is 1792, but Russia has an entirely different PoD. That makes it a little hard to make a proper alt-history with just the 1792 PoD.

Yeah I'll probably push it back by several centuries

Then I’m probably less interested... I like narrow alt-histories, but that would become a bit too broad, because in that case the Napoleonic Wars happening the way they did would be extremely unlikely.

by **Bolslania** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:58 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Bolslania wrote:
Yeah I'll probably push it back by several centuries

Then I’m probably less interested... I like narrow alt-histories, but that would become a bit too broad, because in that case the Napoleonic Wars happening the way they did would be extremely unlikely.

Honestly the main cause of the Napoleonic wars was the French Revolution and the takeover of Napoleon, without that you don't get the Napoleonic wars.

by **Romextly** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:05 am

I shall reserve bavaria

by **Bolslania** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:06 am

Romextly wrote:I shall reserve bavaria

Accepted

by **Sao Nova Europa** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:22 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Hmmm, I am somewhat interested, but I am a bit confused. The PoD is 1792, but Russia has an entirely different PoD. That makes it a little hard to make a proper alt-history with just the 1792 PoD.

When I made the app, there was no PoD yet and the OP was OK with the idea and accepted it.

by **Bolslania** » Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:30 am

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Hmmm, I am somewhat interested, but I am a bit confused. The PoD is 1792, but Russia has an entirely different PoD. That makes it a little hard to make a proper alt-history with just the 1792 PoD.

When I made the app, there was no PoD yet and the OP was OK with the idea and accepted it.

It doesn't change much really, its just a retexturing.

Big power in Russia is the necessary part in my mind.

Although I will admit I shouldve set the PoD before I took applications

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