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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
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No
484
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Depends
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Other
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The Greater Ohio Valley
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:13 pm

East Blepia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:my vehement desire to extirpate it isn't enough?

No force on earth can stop an idea whose time has come.

Got stopped pretty hard in 1945.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:16 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Nakena wrote:
No its more like with the head through wall approach and it isnt going to change anything nor helpful. It's like whack a mole in the end and it doesnt disengages people from attachment to bad ideologies.

you underestimate my desire to whack


So you have no interest in getting people out of bad ideologies?

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
East Blepia wrote:No force on earth can stop an idea whose time has come.

Got stopped pretty hard in 1945.


And took hold in the US itself soon after, because it was needed against the communist bloc.

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Postby Crysuko » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:19 pm

Nakena wrote:
Crysuko wrote:you underestimate my desire to whack


So you have no interest in getting people out of bad ideologies?

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Got stopped pretty hard in 1945.


And took hold in the US itself soon after, because it was needed against the communist bloc.

by making sure said bad ideologies no longer exist, preventing access to their literature and writings, making sure they can't gather in any kind of number which would pose a threat,
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

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Postby Elwher » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:22 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Conservative Republic Of Huang wrote:You were smote into the ground in the 40s, and couped out of power elsewhere after the Cold War. Your time is gone.

Also, amazing example of how fascism is primarily rhetoric without substance.

any time fascism has gained power, it has ended in bloodshed.


Any time Communism has gained power, it has ended in bloodshed. That is a function of authoritarianism, not of any particular flavor of it.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:22 pm

Crysuko wrote:by making sure said bad ideologies no longer exist, preventing access to their literature and writings, making sure they can't gather in any kind of number which would pose a threat,


Thats not how it works. For reasons obvious enough that I dont think I have to state them,

Like at all.

Given your preference for "whacking a mole" its more likely you perpetuate and further solidify the existence of what you claim to fight.
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Postby Crysuko » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:24 pm

Nakena wrote:
Crysuko wrote:by making sure said bad ideologies no longer exist, preventing access to their literature and writings, making sure they can't gather in any kind of number which would pose a threat,


Thats not how it works. For reasons obvious enough that I dont think I have to state them,

Like at all.

Given your preference for "whacking a mole" its more likely you perpetuate and further solidify the existence of what you claim tp fight.

because fighting naxis makes you just as bad as them, and other pointless centrist takes.
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Nakena » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:25 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Thats not how it works. For reasons obvious enough that I dont think I have to state them,

Like at all.

Given your preference for "whacking a mole" its more likely you perpetuate and further solidify the existence of what you claim tp fight.

because fighting naxis makes you just as bad as them, and other pointless centrist takes.


A) Not what I said
B) Not even a "centrist" (and yeah i know damn well what that means)
C) Ergo not an argument

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Postby Crysuko » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:27 pm

Nakena wrote:
Crysuko wrote:because fighting naxis makes you just as bad as them, and other pointless centrist takes.


A) Not what I said
B) Not even a "centrist" (and yeah i know damn well what that means)
C) Ergo not an argument

"no an argument" aka a meme used when you can't be assed to argue, but want a smokescreen of smugness.
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Nakena » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:28 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Nakena wrote:
A) Not what I said
B) Not even a "centrist" (and yeah i know damn well what that means)
C) Ergo not an argument

"no an argument" aka a meme used when you can't be assed to argue, but want a smokescreen of smugness.


It was you who just threw memes and strawmans at me and didn argued nor made an argument. Just read your response to me;

Crysuko wrote:because fighting naxis makes you just as bad as them, and other pointless centrist takes.
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Postby Crysuko » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:34 pm

Nakena wrote:
Crysuko wrote:"no an argument" aka a meme used when you can't be assed to argue, but want a smokescreen of smugness.


It was you who just threw memes and strawmans at me and didn argued nor made an argument. Just read your response to me;

Crysuko wrote:because fighting naxis makes you just as bad as them, and other pointless centrist takes.

Tu quoque
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Nakena » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:41 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Nakena wrote:
It was you who just threw memes and strawmans at me and didn argued nor made an argument. Just read your response to me;


Tu quoque


Now thats quite some effort there.

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Postby Crysuko » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:45 pm

Nakena wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Tu quoque


Now thats quite some effort there.

as much as is necessary
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:49 pm

The sexual tension in this thread could be cut with a knife...

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Postby Crysuko » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:The sexual tension in this thread could be cut with a knife...

was it my intense desire for whacking that set this off?
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Auristania » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:54 pm

BBC have decreed that Idris Elba ain't black because he don't eat Caribbean food. Ie 99 10ths of Africa ain't black either.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/14653264/idris-elba-bbc-diversity-chief-authentically-black/
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/idris-elba-luther-miranda-wayland-b1831794.html
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:55 pm

Auristania wrote:BBC have decreed that Idris Elba ain't black because he don't eat Caribbean food. Ie 99 10ths of Africa ain't black either.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/14653264/idris-elba-bbc-diversity-chief-authentically-black/
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/idris-elba-luther-miranda-wayland-b1831794.html
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That's not what was said at all...

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:57 pm

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:01 pm

Alrighty, let's get this trainwreck started.
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Nevertopia wrote:you know Im not surprised that the guy who believes in white supremacy doesnt realize hes not really white. Being racist is already grounds for questionable intellect.
You are perfectly capable of arguing your points on this subject without taking cheap pot-shots at your opponents' intellect. Knock that off.

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East Blepia wrote:It is, essentially, a Black racialist movement with a political veneer to fool gullible whites into its ranks.
East Blepia wrote:Yes, blacks are disproportionately stopped by police, and suffer disproportionate use of force in comparison to the percentage of the population they comprise. But one must also consider that they commit crimes disproportionately. When you can look at something as obvious as skin color, and tell from that that a black person is three times more likely to commit crimes than a white person, of course you are going to use it in policing.

And before you tell me that not all blacks are criminal, it is your cohort saying that 'all cops are bastards'. Perhaps a Black Lives Matter movement should be founded to try to convince blacks to quit killing each other (2491 blacks were murdered in 2013, of which 2245 were killed by other blacks, but of course murder cannot be ended, just as police violence cannot be ended.)

-snip-

Again, that is actually lower than would be proportional to their crime rates. Police officers are doing them a favor.
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Apparently your repeated smacks earlier in this thread have still failed to impress upon you the site rules you are expected to follow. There are users who have managed to argue racist beliefs in a manner that doesn't violate the rules; so far you are not shaping up to be one of them. *** East Blepia, 7-day ban for trolling. ***

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There's one statistic that debunks nearly every anti-cop sentiment in the US right now (which I absolutely cannot be bothered to link right now, you can look it up yourself), and that is every minority group wants the same level of police presence or more in their neighborhoods as they had before. Let me say that again. The vast majority of minorities want MORE COPS in their neighborhoods. But of course, don't listen to them, listen to the white woke liberals and rich BLM activists that know exactly what all these people want, oh yeah. Clearly, minorities do not agree with this bullcrap. But defund and strip the cops anyway, and watch as crime rates skyrocket (which has already happened, btw).
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:20 pm

The thread devoted to talking about white supremacy is laden with reportable posts? I'm shocked. Almost like it should stay locked or something...
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:25 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:The thread devoted to talking about white supremacy is laden with reportable posts? I'm shocked. Almost like it should stay locked or something...

To be fair it managed to get to page 135 before having a trawl, and for such an inflammatory subject that's pretty impressive...
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Postby Crysuko » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:26 pm

trying to get back on topic, what would WS actually achieve. turning a country into an exclusive club so you can say you're superior
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

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Postby Xmara » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:31 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:The thread devoted to talking about white supremacy is laden with reportable posts? I'm shocked. Almost like it should stay locked or something...

To be fair it managed to get to page 135 before having a trawl, and for such an inflammatory subject that's pretty impressive...

I 100% expected it to stay locked. I’m surprised there wasn’t a single DEAT in Reppy’s post.
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Postby Xmara » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:32 pm

Crysuko wrote:trying to get back on topic, what would WS actually achieve. turning a country into an exclusive club so you can say you're superior

Most white supremacists think that an all-white country would be more powerful/more advanced/more peaceful than a diverse country.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:36 pm

Crysuko wrote:trying to get back on topic, what would WS actually achieve. turning a country into an exclusive club so you can say you're superior

So, on one level, I imagine they'd end up killing and deporting a lot of people if they ever actually managed to get into real power. Not sure if you'd call that an "achievement," but it's what you'd expect.

But on a more practical level White Supremacy isn't really about that. It's about trying to win over lower class White people using tribalism, and hoping that they won't realize they're working against their own interest. As Lyndon B. Johnson once said, “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket.”

To that end: WS politicians don't actually want to do anything, or solve any issue. They just want to implement policies that are cruel to minorities in order to virtue signal. Well, that, and make it harder for minorities to vote.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:47 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Crysuko wrote:trying to get back on topic, what would WS actually achieve. turning a country into an exclusive club so you can say you're superior

So, on one level, I imagine they'd end up killing and deporting a lot of people if they ever actually managed to get into real power. Not sure if you'd call that an "achievement," but it's what you'd expect.

But on a more practical level White Supremacy isn't really about that. It's about trying to win over lower class White people using tribalism, and hoping that they won't realize they're working against their own interest. As Lyndon B. Johnson once said, “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket.”

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If the White Supremacists create an ethnic state, they can just deport the persons to other nations that will take them in, they don't need to depose of them in any other ways. They actually want a Democratic Christian System within their White Ethnic State for Whites. I know what I am talking about because I have been there just to read and learn their views, I even know who they are if you get my drift, not to participate which I would never do for obvious reasons, so I speak from experience.
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