by Umbagar » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:10 am
Political Pilgrims wrote:我们不是陌生人的爱。你知道规则,所以我也是一个完整的承诺是我想到的。你不会得到任何其他人的。
by Dyakovo » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:13 am
by Nulono » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:15 am
The Nuclear Fist wrote:If all it it takes to count as a five star hotel in America is having air conditioning and not letting those who reside in it die of hyperthermia, you have shitty hotels.
Republika Jugoslavija wrote:Actually nuclear war is not the world ending scenario that many would have folks believe.
by Fartsniffage » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:15 am
by Norstal » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:16 am
Toronto Sun wrote:Best poster ever. ★★★★★
New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
IGN wrote:Literally the best game I've ever played. 10/10
NSG Public wrote:What a fucking douchebag.
by Umbagar » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:17 am
Nulono wrote:I'm leaning towards it being a hoax. There's no reason for them to get a 3D ultrasound or go into so much detail over the development of a child they may abort. The language they use is clearly acknowledging "Wiggles" as a member of the family.
I voted for birth just to be safe, though.
Also, the 4chan raid was inevitable.
Political Pilgrims wrote:我们不是陌生人的爱。你知道规则,所以我也是一个完整的承诺是我想到的。你不会得到任何其他人的。
by This Mother » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:17 am
Dyakovo wrote:I'm not about to vote on their poll, but quite frankly if they aren't sure they are prepared to have a kid then they shouldn't...
So, I guess I'm saying I think they should get an abortion.
by Norstal » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:18 am
Umbagar wrote:Nulono wrote:I'm leaning towards it being a hoax. There's no reason for them to get a 3D ultrasound or go into so much detail over the development of a child they may abort. The language they use is clearly acknowledging "Wiggles" as a member of the family.
I voted for birth just to be safe, though.
Also, the 4chan raid was inevitable.
This was on CNN and several other networks, so if it is a hoax it's a pretty good one.
Toronto Sun wrote:Best poster ever. ★★★★★
New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
IGN wrote:Literally the best game I've ever played. 10/10
NSG Public wrote:What a fucking douchebag.
by Risottia » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:18 am
by Barringtonia » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:20 am
by Umbagar » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:24 am
Political Pilgrims wrote:我们不是陌生人的爱。你知道规则,所以我也是一个完整的承诺是我想到的。你不会得到任何其他人的。
by Nulono » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:30 am
Umbagar wrote:Arilando wrote:Why not? And why would it be a bad thing?
I only believe in abortion in cases where the mother's life is at stake, she was raped, and perhaps if the child was to be born into a broken, poor family. In this case the parents are fairly succesful computer programmers and the health of the child is being carefully monitored.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:If all it it takes to count as a five star hotel in America is having air conditioning and not letting those who reside in it die of hyperthermia, you have shitty hotels.
Republika Jugoslavija wrote:Actually nuclear war is not the world ending scenario that many would have folks believe.
by Umbagar » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:34 am
Nulono wrote:Arilando wrote:Why not? And why would it be a bad thing?
'Cause some of us don't like to be responsible for the death of another human being.Umbagar wrote:
I only believe in abortion in cases where the mother's life is at stake, she was raped, and perhaps if the child was to be born into a broken, poor family. In this case the parents are fairly succesful computer programmers and the health of the child is being carefully monitored.
If the child's right to life is small enough that it's okay to violate it based on the circumstances of the child's conception or the child's family, why is abortion ever wrong?
Political Pilgrims wrote:我们不是陌生人的爱。你知道规则,所以我也是一个完整的承诺是我想到的。你不会得到任何其他人的。
by Nulono » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:35 am
Umbagar wrote:Nulono wrote:'Cause some of us don't like to be responsible for the death of another human being.
If the child's right to life is small enough that it's okay to violate it based on the circumstances of the child's conception or the child's family, why is abortion ever wrong?
Because using abortion as birth control is pretentious and superficial. I'm unsure however about whether it is justifiable in a broken, poor family. Obama came from a poor single mother and look what he turned out to be.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:If all it it takes to count as a five star hotel in America is having air conditioning and not letting those who reside in it die of hyperthermia, you have shitty hotels.
Republika Jugoslavija wrote:Actually nuclear war is not the world ending scenario that many would have folks believe.
by Arilando » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:42 am
Umbagar wrote:Arilando wrote:Why not? And why would it be a bad thing?
I only believe in abortion in cases where the mother's life is at stake, she was raped, and perhaps if the child was to be born into a broken, poor family. In this case the parents are fairly succesful computer programmers and the health of the child is being carefully monitored.
by Umbagar » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:43 am
Nulono wrote:Umbagar wrote:Because using abortion as birth control is pretentious and superficial. I'm unsure however about whether it is justifiable in a broken, poor family. Obama came from a poor single mother and look what he turned out to be.
Even if he didn't turn out to be okay, would that justify killing him?
Political Pilgrims wrote:我们不是陌生人的爱。你知道规则,所以我也是一个完整的承诺是我想到的。你不会得到任何其他人的。
by Nulono » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:44 am
Umbagar wrote:Nulono wrote:Even if he didn't turn out to be okay, would that justify killing him?
That's the question isn't it? is it better to let a child be born into, say, a genocidal ethnic grotto where he will suffer, be starved, attacked, and a multitude of other things that will almost invariably kill him before the age of 5 or abort him to save suffering? It's a question of whether a horrible life or death is better. And if you decide that abortion is better, then the question comes up of when a life becomes worth living. it's a slippery slope.
The Nuclear Fist wrote:If all it it takes to count as a five star hotel in America is having air conditioning and not letting those who reside in it die of hyperthermia, you have shitty hotels.
Republika Jugoslavija wrote:Actually nuclear war is not the world ending scenario that many would have folks believe.
by Dyakovo » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:45 am
Umbagar wrote:Nulono wrote:Even if he didn't turn out to be okay, would that justify killing him?
That's the question isn't it? is it better to let a child be born into, say, a genocidal ethnic grotto where he will suffer, be starved, attacked, and a multitude of other things that will almost invariably kill him before the age of 5 or abort him to save suffering? It's a question of whether a horrible life or death is better. And if you decide that abortion is better, then the question comes up of when a life becomes worth living. it's a slippery slope.
by Arilando » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:45 am
by Dyakovo » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:46 am
Nulono wrote:Umbagar wrote:
That's the question isn't it? is it better to let a child be born into, say, a genocidal ethnic grotto where he will suffer, be starved, attacked, and a multitude of other things that will almost invariably kill him before the age of 5 or abort him to save suffering? It's a question of whether a horrible life or death is better. And if you decide that abortion is better, then the question comes up of when a life becomes worth living. it's a slippery slope.
If a newborn is born into a family that then falls on hard times, is it okay to kill the newborn? What about a toddler?
by Umbagar » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:46 am
Arilando wrote:Umbagar wrote:
I only believe in abortion in cases where the mother's life is at stake, she was raped, and perhaps if the child was to be born into a broken, poor family. In this case the parents are fairly succesful computer programmers and the health of the child is being carefully monitored.
But why? Please explain why you think abortion is wrong except when the mother's life is at stake, or that she was raped.
Political Pilgrims wrote:我们不是陌生人的爱。你知道规则,所以我也是一个完整的承诺是我想到的。你不会得到任何其他人的。
by Arilando » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:50 am
Umbagar wrote:Arilando wrote:But why? Please explain why you think abortion is wrong except when the mother's life is at stake, or that she was raped.
If something is forced upon a person, such as a baby that could cause death during birth or if they were raped then they should have a choice in whether to try to have the baby. I feel it is wrong to force them to risk their lives for the baby or to carry a baby that they had no choice in.
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