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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
529
40%
No
484
37%
Depends
283
21%
Other
25
2%
 
Total votes : 1321

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Nevertopia
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Postby Nevertopia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:15 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:Did you know? Racism can also be attributed to penis envy, particularly towards black men. Thats right! Being a racist means theres a higher chance that you have a small penis!


As someone who grew up in the South and internalized a lot of racism, I uh, don't think this applied to me. Considering I'm a girl.

are you racist now?
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Punished UMN
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:16 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:It's not true but I did get banned from r/Arab for using an anti-Shiite slur towards the Islamic Republic of Iran.


You? Using slurs? I find it hard to believe that.

Only against the Shia and only ironically.
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All China
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Postby All China » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:16 pm

Resilient Acceleration wrote:
Galloism wrote:Racism isn’t just a white people thing, folks.

All people of all races can... have stupid beliefs.

On the reverse, Southeast Asian racism against ethnic Chinese is quite potent too, seeing them as greedy, infidel capitalists that exploit the native population. Although, it is true that the Chinese in Indonesia actually do control 75% of the economy


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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:16 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I frankly now want to end whiteness more than ever. Not through violence, but through abolishing the concept and then mixing everyone together till race segregation is long forgotten.


I don’t think racial diversity is the issue. It’s stupid, ignorant and hateful people who are the issue here.
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:16 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:As a man of color, I am more than willing to do my part to unify the world as one through the mixing of bloodlines.

Is there a sign up sheet or do I just make it happen?


You have to fill out the paperwork at the local ZOG Administration Office.

Source: am Anglo, dating a Pole.


See but that's fine according to Sai because Poles are white.

I will date women of any race, but i really wanna get like 5 white girlfriends now all at the same time just to spite nazis. Literally just for the lols.
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Suriyanakhon
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:16 pm

Nevertopia wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
As someone who grew up in the South and internalized a lot of racism, I uh, don't think this applied to me. Considering I'm a girl.

are you racist now?


I still have racist thoughts & assumptions which I try to work on.
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Nevertopia
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Postby Nevertopia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:17 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I frankly now want to end whiteness more than ever. Not through violence, but through abolishing the concept and then mixing everyone together till race segregation is long forgotten.


I don’t think racial diversity is the issue. It’s stupid, ignorant and hateful people who are the issue here.

i concur, if people are stupid enough to kill each other over their favourite color, anything is possible.
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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Alcala-Cordel
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:17 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I frankly now want to end whiteness more than ever. Not through violence, but through abolishing the concept and then mixing everyone together till race segregation is long forgotten.


I don’t think racial diversity is the issue. It’s stupid, ignorant and hateful people who are the issue here.

It would be more difficult to be racist if you were mixed race though
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Punished UMN
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Punished UMN » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:17 pm

Nevertopia wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
As someone who grew up in the South and internalized a lot of racism, I uh, don't think this applied to me. Considering I'm a girl.

are you racist now?

Can confirm that Suri is an Irish Catholic priest in a sitcom.
Eastern Orthodox Christian. Purgatorial universalist.
Ascended beyond politics, now metapolitics is my best friend. Proud member of the Napoleon Bonaparte fandom.
I have borderline personality disorder, if I overreact to something, try to approach me after the fact and I'll apologize.
The political compass is like hell: if you find yourself on it, keep going.
Pro: The fundamental dignitas of the human spirit as expressed through its self-actualization in theosis. Anti: Faustian-Demonic Space Anarcho-Capitalism with Italo-Futurist Characteristics

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:17 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You? Using slurs? I find it hard to believe that.

Only against the Shia and only ironically.


You side with the Sunni?
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:17 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
You have to fill out the paperwork at the local ZOG Administration Office.

Source: am Anglo, dating a Pole.


See but that's fine according to Sai because Poles are white.

I will date women of any race, but i really wanna get like 5 white girlfriends now all at the same time just to spite nazis. Literally just for the lols.

and Ill date a guy of any race. It seem like white supremacists can't agree of what the definition of white is.
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Kowani
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Founded: Apr 01, 2018
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:18 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Kowani wrote:i said "comfortably", tia


Ok, use a pillow, tío. :D

in a bathtub???

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:As a man of color, I am more than willing to do my part to unify the world as one through the mixing of bloodlines.

Is there a sign up sheet or do I just make it happen?

in my experience, asking a girl out is a good first step :^)

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:who is the "you" here
because if it's this thread...no
if it's the country...even less so

I would say “all reasonable people”, but... that just makes me think of Adlai Stevenson.

...
okay so
just gonna grab the relevant bit here
Across the three surveys, I find that the distribution of racial resentment is consistently skewed toward higher levels of resentment. Average scores among whites are at or near 0.6 on a scale ranging from 0 to 1, with higher values indicating greater levels of resentment. In other words, a sizable proportion of white Americans possess some degree of racial resentment. In the 2012 ANES, for example, over 59% of white respondents scored above 0.6 on the resentment scale.16 Meanwhile, compared to the racially resentful, I find that fewer white Americans possess high levels of white identity, but the percentages who do are still notable respondents in three of the surveys, between 30 and 35% of whites indicate that their racial identity is very if not extremely important to them.

I also find that the correlation between racial resentment and white racial identity is fairly low. In the 2012 ANES, the Pearson’s r coefficient is .13 (p=.00). In the 2016 ANES Pilot, the correlation is .19 (p=.00), and in the 2016 ANES Timer Series study it is 0.21 (p=.00). These constructs are related, but the size of the correlation coeffecient suggests they are far from capturing the same construct or set of latent attitudes. In fact, the weak correlations lead to an important conclusion: Whites who are racially resentful and whites high on racial solidarity are not one in
the same, even if these whites may ultimately possess similar political preferences.
(original source)
finding belief in explicit biological racism is harder because the ANES fucking sucks on this front
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:18 pm

Punished UMN wrote:As I have said, this reasoning is disingenuous because it can be equally applied to the Zionist ideologues, and any pressure on it will inevitably come back around to the realization that Zionism is Jewish ethnonationalist chauvinism, as ultimately the argument fails to mask that the Israelis are still committing crimes against humanity, it just admits that it's a crime against humanity they want because it is in the interests of their nation.

I wouldn't quite say that Zionist ideologues accuse Arabs of never having done anything for the world or that Zionist ideologues maintain that Arabs cause every global war. Their racism, when present, almost invariably takes a different form. It's still racism, and stupid as one would expect, but it's not quite on the same level of stupid as believing that Israel caused World War II, the War on Terror, or the Libyan Civil War through Jewish magic. And Zionism is a nationalist movement in much the same way that Pan-Arabism, which competed with it at the same time, was a nationalist movement.

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Nevertopia
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Postby Nevertopia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:18 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:are you racist now?


I still have racist thoughts & assumptions which I try to work on.


do you agree that racism and white supremacy are bad?
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
Communism has failed every time its been tried.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:18 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I don’t think racial diversity is the issue. It’s stupid, ignorant and hateful people who are the issue here.

It would be more difficult to be racist if you were mixed race though


Not true. I have mixed raced family members who are pretty racist themselves. Being mixed raced doesn’t eliminate racism unfortunately.
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Punished UMN
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Postby Punished UMN » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:18 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Only against the Shia and only ironically.


You side with the Sunni?

yes
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Ascended beyond politics, now metapolitics is my best friend. Proud member of the Napoleon Bonaparte fandom.
I have borderline personality disorder, if I overreact to something, try to approach me after the fact and I'll apologize.
The political compass is like hell: if you find yourself on it, keep going.
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:18 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:are you racist now?


I still have racist thoughts & assumptions which I try to work on.


Sorry to hear that. I didn't like blacks as a kid up till age 13 when a young black boy at my school got violently attacked by some nazi skins. That was a turning point in my view on race.
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Suriyanakhon
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:19 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
You have to fill out the paperwork at the local ZOG Administration Office.

Source: am Anglo, dating a Pole.


See but that's fine according to Sai because Poles are white.

I will date women of any race, but i really wanna get like 5 white girlfriends now all at the same time just to spite nazis. Literally just for the lols.


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Punished UMN wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:are you racist now?

Can confirm that Suri is an Irish Catholic priest in a sitcom.


Live footage of me.

As a side note, I miss when this was the only thing I knew about Graham Linehan.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:19 pm

Nevertopia wrote:
Kowani wrote:who is the "you" here
because if it's this thread...no
if it's the country...even less so

yes I agree, its highly probably that you arent taking my statement in good faith.

...what
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:19 pm

Nevertopia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I don’t think racial diversity is the issue. It’s stupid, ignorant and hateful people who are the issue here.

i concur, if people are stupid enough to kill each other over their favourite color, anything is possible.


Yarp. Willingness to be an idiot drives some people to do some amazing dumbassery...
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Alcala-Cordel
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:19 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:As a man of color, I am more than willing to do my part to unify the world as one through the mixing of bloodlines.

Is there a sign up sheet or do I just make it happen?

You could register to be a sperm donor
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Salus Maior
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Ex-Nation

Postby Salus Maior » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:20 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:are you racist now?


I still have racist thoughts & assumptions which I try to work on.


We all do I think.
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:20 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You? Using slurs? I find it hard to believe that.

He's not racist. He just really loves Saddam. :p

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:20 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You side with the Sunni?

yes


Ah. Ok. I prefer the Sufi myself. And steer clear of the Shia-Sunni clusterfuck.
Slava Ukraini
Also: THERNSY!!
Your story isn't over;֍Help save transgender people's lives֍Help for feral cats
Cat with internet access||Supposedly heartless, & a d*ck.||Is maith an t-earra an tsíocháin.||No TGs
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:21 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
You have to fill out the paperwork at the local ZOG Administration Office.

Source: am Anglo, dating a Pole.

oi yous gotta loicense for that copulation

She doesn't. Please bonk her immediately.

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