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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
529
40%
No
484
37%
Depends
283
21%
Other
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East Blepia
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Postby East Blepia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:50 pm

Ayytaly wrote:Unfortunately, confirmation bias is too strong among them.

Suriyanakhon wrote:If anything was going to change his mind, it would have been said by now.


If I didn't want to be exposed to opposing views, I would not be on this site.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:
What is special about being white?

It’s much easier to maintain your vitamin D levels at higher latitudes.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:51 pm

Galloism wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What is special about being white?

It’s much easier to maintain your vitamin D levels at higher latitudes.


The trade off is at low latitudes, you get the cancer from the sun.
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Galloism
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Postby Galloism » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:52 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Galloism wrote:It’s much easier to maintain your vitamin D levels at higher latitudes.


The trade off is at low latitudes, you get the cancer from the sun.

Nobody’s perfect.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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All China
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Postby All China » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:53 pm

Fahran wrote:
All China wrote:Can anyone honestly say white supremacy has any benefit for the world?

Colonialism, in part spurred on by the concept of the white man's burden, often brought a violent to end to certain indigenous practices we'd likely all find objectionable. Think human sacrifice in Mexico, the infanticide of twins in Nigeria, ritualized cannibalism in Canada, or sati in India. Of course, Euros brought their own objectionable practices to these places a lot of the time and made up plenty of new ones too, but you asked if there was any benefit for the world at all. Note: this doesn't mean that white supremacy is good or desirable. Hitler was a vegan. Doesn't make him a good guy.


Appreciate your honesty. Bad can cause good, this is sad but true!

In the modern era though there is no benefit from white supremacy. Except maybe it is a topic we are discussing right now for whatever benefit.

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Suriyanakhon
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:53 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Galloism wrote:It’s much easier to maintain your vitamin D levels at higher latitudes.


The trade off is at low latitudes, you get the cancer from the sun.


Yeah, it's purely an environmental adaption. The weirdest thing to me about racists is that they literally correlate skin color to personality traits, it's basically just physiognomy.
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Ayytaly
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Postby Ayytaly » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:53 pm

East Blepia wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:Unfortunately, confirmation bias is too strong among them.

Suriyanakhon wrote:If anything was going to change his mind, it would have been said by now.


If I didn't want to be exposed to opposing views, I would not be on this site.


*reads sig*

Did you know that 90% of the USA's support towards Israel comes from White/Germanic people?
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All China
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Postby All China » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:55 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
All China wrote:
If I was a smart white supremacist I would just say the smart Asians are the white ones. :rofl:


Step 1. Provide IQ charts to prove white superiority.
Step 2. China's average IQ is 104.
Step 3. What?
Step 4. This can't be right. Let me find another chart.
Step 5. Ashkenazi Jews have an IQ in the 100s too?
Step 6. ...
Step 7. Stages of grief
Step 8. Insanity


Sounds like the Jerry Springer episodes. Good throwback!

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:55 pm

East Blepia wrote:Expulsion, seizure of wealth and property, forcible payment of reparations, murder, rape, the deterioration of society, of the economy, general destruction of the United States as we know it. And I do not have to speculate - this is essentially what happened in Rhodesia and South Africa.


this is your brain on right-wing propaganda, people
let's try to avoid it going forward
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East Blepia
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Postby East Blepia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:There is not going to be forcible removal or oppression of whites. That is flat out ridiculous.

Do you believe only white men should be in positions of power both in elected office and in business?

I believe that Whites should hold power in White countries. Not Jews, not Asians, not Blacks, not anyone else. This is a concept which goes back thousands of years to Ancient Greece. It is called 'self-determination'.

[quoteWhat is special about being white?

Whites are one of the more intelligent races. We created some of the earliest and most historically influential civilizations, and ruled over a great part of the world not too long ago, creating the modern concepts of international law, democracy, and the nation-state in our image. Most importantly, we are entitled to exclusively inhabit and rule over our ancestral lands.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Borderlands of Rojava
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:56 pm

All China wrote:
Fahran wrote:Colonialism, in part spurred on by the concept of the white man's burden, often brought a violent to end to certain indigenous practices we'd likely all find objectionable. Think human sacrifice in Mexico, the infanticide of twins in Nigeria, ritualized cannibalism in Canada, or sati in India. Of course, Euros brought their own objectionable practices to these places a lot of the time and made up plenty of new ones too, but you asked if there was any benefit for the world at all. Note: this doesn't mean that white supremacy is good or desirable. Hitler was a vegan. Doesn't make him a good guy.


Appreciate your honesty. Bad can cause good, this is sad but true!

In the modern era though there is no benefit from white supremacy. Except maybe it is a topic we are discussing right now for whatever benefit.


White supremacy has a very important purpose in modern society. It generates great comedy.

Remember crying Chris Cantwell? https://youtu.be/uzdYsqpXtWA
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:56 pm

East Blepia wrote:What is true, though, is that Hispanics (almost of all of whom having mixed to some degree with Indians), Middle Easterners, and Africans are generally less intelligent than Whites, and that our replacement by these races will lead to the deterioration of our societies.

*sigh* Really?

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:57 pm

East Blepia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:There is not going to be forcible removal or oppression of whites. That is flat out ridiculous.


I believe that Whites should hold power in White countries. Not Jews, not Asians, not Blacks, not anyone else. This is a concept which goes back thousands of years to Ancient Greece. It is called 'self-determination'.

[quoteWhat is special about being white?

Whites are one of the more intelligent races. We created some of the earliest and most historically influential civilizations, and ruled over a great part of the world not too long ago, creating the modern concepts of international law, democracy, and the nation-state in our image. Most importantly, we are entitled to exclusively inhabit and rule over our ancestral lands.


Do you even know who "we" is? This is a question that you've been asked before. Explain to me please how San Lumen is not white because I've actually spoken to him and seen him and I don't see what you're talking about. He looks like he would fit in in your white nationalist ethnostate appearance-wise.
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Suriyanakhon
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:58 pm

All China wrote:
Picairn wrote:It was pointed out to you that Asians are superior in terms of intelligence, and you shifted the goalposts by referring to other supposedly "white traits". Now you repeat the claim that whites are more intelligent.


If I was a smart white supremacist I would just say the smart Asians are the white ones. :rofl:


It's not uncommon for white nats to assert that East Asians are the good ones and that Southeast and South Asians are inferior.
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Saiwania
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:58 pm

The majority of people posting in the topic are truly hopeless from my standpoint, in that there is no empathy or thought spared for what will become of the White race. Perhaps it is the case that only White Supremacists truly care enough about the topic as to be an authority on it.
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Postby Picairn » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:58 pm

East Blepia wrote:What is true, though, is that Hispanics (almost of all of whom having mixed to some degree with Indians), Middle Easterners, and Africans are generally less intelligent than Whites, and that our replacement by these races will lead to the deterioration of our societies.

:roll: Could it be because of geographic (Guns, Germs and Steel) or institutional (Why Nations Fail) factors? No way, it must be race!
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
East Blepia wrote:Well, living in California you should be very acquainted indeed with the BLM riots this past year, and before them the Rodney King riots, and before them the civil rights riots in the 60s and 70s. Regardless of the fact that some Whites support them, they are racial in nature. They are even framed in explicitly racial terms. Politics in this country is increasingly dominated by race. Blacks and Hispanics vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, and the majority of Whites (about 60%) voted for Republicans.




I am not claiming that Whites are being forced to physically defend their homes (although it has happened - do you remember the photo which circulated last summer of a White husband and wife on their own property, armed and beholding a Black Lives Matter protest?) What I am saying is that forcible removal or oppression of Whites, either through legal or physical force, is not far off. Reparations are already being discussed by the federal government.



Expulsion, seizure of wealth and property, forcible payment of reparations, murder, rape, the deterioration of society, of the economy, general destruction of the United States as we know it. And I do not have to speculate - this is essentially what happened in Rhodesia and South Africa.


There is not going to be forcible removal or oppression of whites. That is flat out ridiculous. Do you believe only white men should be in positions of power both in elected office and in business?

What is special about being white?

Imagine you're playing hide-and-seek and all the hiding spots are taken except a bathtub filled with mayonnaise. It's pretty obvious that being of a certain skin color would improve your camouflage. It's not "politically correct" to say it, but minorities are clearly jealous of the advantage this would provide in such a situation and seek to darken our pale skin so as to eliminate our ability to conceal ourselves in bathtubs of mayonnaise.
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Fahran
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:59 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
East Blepia wrote:

If I didn't want to be exposed to opposing views, I would not be on this site.


*reads sig*

Did you know that 90% of the USA's support towards Israel comes from White/Germanic people?

Oh, I remember this guy. He was the one who kept demanding "What has Israel ever done for us?" before promptly ignoring all of the volunteered examples of good things Israel had done. And people thought that question wasn't Antisemitic. Smh.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:59 pm

East Blepia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Step 1. Provide IQ charts to prove white superiority.
Step 2. China's average IQ is 104.
Step 3. What?
Step 4. This can't be right. Let me find another chart.
Step 5. Ashkenazi Jews have an IQ in the 100s too?
Step 6. ...
Step 7. Stages of grief
Step 8. Insanity

I never denied that Asians were on average smarter than Whites, or that Ashkenazi Jews, having a large degree of White ad-mixture, will have racial characteristics similar to Whites. This is a very common misconception among the opponents of our movement - that we claim that Whites are the clearly superior race in every field imaginable, which is obviously not true. What is true, though, is that Hispanics (almost of all of whom having mixed to some degree with Indians), Middle Easterners, and Africans are generally less intelligent than Whites, and that our replacement by these races will lead to the deterioration of our societies.


Oh nice, got attacked based on my race.

I just find the statement that hispanics, Arabs and Africans are less intelligent than whites to be ironic when you consider how moronic white supremacy is as a movement.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:00 pm

Saiwania wrote:The majority of people posting in the topic are truly hopeless from my standpoint, in that there is no empathy or thought spared for what will become of the White race. Perhaps it is the case that only White Supremacists true care enough about the topic as to be an authority on it.


You have failed to explain what is so special about being white. Why does it matter if a city or province or country is majority white?

If a non white person is elected to office in a majority white area why does that matter?

I have empathy for all people regardless of race, religion or ethnicity.
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Postby Fahran » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:00 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
All China wrote:
If I was a smart white supremacist I would just say the smart Asians are the white ones. :rofl:


It's not uncommon for white nats to assert that East Asians are the good ones and that Southeast and South Asians are inferior.

Honorary... :^)

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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:01 pm

Fahran wrote:
Ayytaly wrote:
*reads sig*

Did you know that 90% of the USA's support towards Israel comes from White/Germanic people?

Oh, I remember this guy. He was the one who kept demanding "What has Israel ever done for us?" before promptly ignoring all of the volunteered examples of good things Israel had done. And people thought that question wasn't Antisemitic. Smh.


While I'm no advocate of White Supremacists, not liking Israel =/= being antisemitic.

I mean, the most outspoken person I know when it comes to opposing Israel is a very devout Jew.

Although obviously, Blep's opposition to Israel is most likely based in antisemitism.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:01 pm

Saiwania wrote:The majority of people posting in the topic are truly hopeless from my standpoint, in that there is no empathy or thought spared for what will become of the White race. Perhaps it is the case that only White Supremacists true care enough about the topic as to be an authority on it.


I have empathy for real, actual people, not the imaginary “white race” you've constructed that most of us would be members of anyway.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:01 pm

Saiwania wrote:The majority of people posting in the topic are truly hopeless from my standpoint, in that there is no empathy or thought spared for what will become of the White race. Perhaps it is the case that only White Supremacists true care enough about the topic as to be an authority on it.


I hope your descendants are browner than Jesus. Not because I'm anti white, but just for the irony and lols.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:01 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
There is not going to be forcible removal or oppression of whites. That is flat out ridiculous. Do you believe only white men should be in positions of power both in elected office and in business?

What is special about being white?

Imagine you're playing hide-and-seek and all the hiding spots are taken except a bathtub filled with mayonnaise. It's pretty obvious that being of a certain skin color would improve your camouflage. It's not "politically correct" to say it, but minorities are clearly jealous of the advantage this would provide in such a situation and seek to darken our pale skin so as to eliminate our ability to conceal ourselves in bathtubs of mayonnaise.


I dont understand your point at all.

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