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Do you think white supermascists should be able to express their views?

Yes
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No
484
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Depends
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Postby Western Theram » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:50 am

Saiwania wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:You still haven't explained what's so special about being white.


I'm just loyal to my own phenotype which I was born into. If I were native American, my focus would be on keeping to my race if not tribe. If I were Black, I'd probably not be worried because there are plenty of majority Black nations with no signs of the Black population of the world declining any. If I were Asian, I'd perhaps also not have to worry because there are plenty of majority Asian nations with no signs of any disruption there.

But notice however, that it is only primarily majority White nations which are becoming more diverse and less White over time.

Hence, why those who're White need to worry about the prospect of extinction for the skin color, if not becoming a permanent minority everywhere, as opposed to just a global minority in terms of world population.

but notice how everything you say isn't true and just repeating the "great replacement" myth
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Postby Seljukestan » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:51 am

I heard that Ted Cruz started worshiping Donald Trump and left Christianity. Is that true? :rofl:

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:51 am

Saiwania wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:You know what I find to be hilarious? The fact you assume if everyone mixed together we would all look the same.

Latin America has had racial intermixture for hundreds of years and Latin America still has major phenotypical diversity. Because believe it or not, mixing genes doesn't lead to a combination of genes all the times. Sometimes one gene in an individual can be dominant, like the one for light light or another for dark hair.


That is far too random for my liking. [...]

Sorry to break it to you sai, but genetics inherently has an element of randomness to it due to the existence of genetic reshuffling during fertilisation. You'd literally have to start changing the fundamentals of DNA itself in order to get rid of the random element, if that's what you really wanted to happen. Unfortunately for you though trying to get rid of the random element would cause all sorts of havoc with the resulting offspring: it would mean that any mutations would not be limited just to the region around the mutated gene, resulting in all kinds of errors that would likely cause horrifying abnormalities in the resulting organism that would in all likelihood be fatal. Recombination can even result in deleterious genetic mutations being removed completely.
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Postby Tundra Terra » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:52 am

Cuthon wrote:If people are not given an open forum to discuss their opinions, no matter how controversial they are, they will most likely form echo chambers with each and lead to these ideas becoming more and more extreme. For example, groups like ANTIFA constantly try to suppress those on the right from properly voicing their opinions. From my personal experiences on the internet, this generally leads to what was aforementioned in the last sentence. The irony is that groups like this create more fascists, white supremacists, than they do decrease the number of them.


I agree. There is also a view that people are forgetting that one can ascertain various problems that are exacerbated in some communities. You can never please everyone, but don't be surprised if X community backlashes in total revolt if it believes it has had enough...even if they are white supremacists.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:52 am

Seljukestan wrote:I heard that Ted Cruz started worshiping Donald Trump and left Christianity. Is that true? :rofl:

Not really relevant to this thread.

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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:52 am

Genivaria wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I'm just loyal to my own phenotype which I was born into. If I were native American, my focus would be on keeping to my race if not tribe. If I were Black, I'd probably not be worried because there are plenty of majority Black nations with no signs of the Black population of the world declining any. If I were Asian, I'd perhaps also not have to worry because there are plenty of majority Asian nations with no signs of any disruption there.

But notice however, that it is only primarily majority White nations which are becoming more diverse and less White over time.

Hence, why those who're White need to worry about the prospect of extinction for the skin color, if not becoming a permanent minority everywhere, as opposed to just a global minority in terms of world population.

Yes I also think we can't trust those dirty brown eye people, green eyes are master race! :lol2:

I mean if we're talking about the far future, racial heritage isn't even a problem at all. Genetic engineering and advanced nanotechnology could arguably allow people to modify their own body into whatever aesthetics they want to pursue, and change it later if they feel like it. Though it's unlikely that we'll be talking about such a measly and useless concern with our Dyson sphere powered, cloud-outsourced, hyper-intelligence.

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Postby Seljukestan » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:52 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
That is far too random for my liking. I'd find it vastly more preferable if the White race in majority White locales could continue undiluted from one generation to the next from same race couples. Not having white skin skip a generation or only appear by chance are so on, because too many other genes from other phenotype groups were introduced into the bloodlines.


You still haven't explained what's so special about being white.

NOTHING :rofl:

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:53 am

Saiwania wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:You still haven't explained what's so special about being white.


I'm just loyal to my own phenotype which I was born into. If I were native American, my focus would be on keeping to my race if not tribe. If I were Black, I'd probably not be worried because there are plenty of majority Black nations with no signs of the Black population of the world declining any. If I were Asian, I'd perhaps also not have to worry because there are plenty of majority Asian nations with no signs of any disruption there.

But notice however, that it is only primarily majority White nations which are becoming more diverse and less White over time.

Hence, why those who're White need to worry about the prospect of extinction for the skin color, if not becoming a permanent minority everywhere, as opposed to just a global minority in terms of world population.


Your implying there is some mass conspiracy to eliminate white people. There isn’t.

Do you why skin color is a thing? It has to due with the angle and intensity of the sun due to the curvature of the Earth.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:53 am

Western Theram wrote:but notice how everything you say isn't true and just repeating the "great replacement" myth


The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.
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Postby Seljukestan » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:54 am

Tundra Terra wrote:
Cuthon wrote:If people are not given an open forum to discuss their opinions, no matter how controversial they are, they will most likely form echo chambers with each and lead to these ideas becoming more and more extreme. For example, groups like ANTIFA constantly try to suppress those on the right from properly voicing their opinions. From my personal experiences on the internet, this generally leads to what was aforementioned in the last sentence. The irony is that groups like this create more fascists, white supremacists, than they do decrease the number of them.


I agree. There is also a view that people are forgetting that one can ascertain various problems that are exacerbated in some communities. You can never please everyone, but don't be surprised if X community backlashes in total revolt if it believes it has had enough...even if they are white supremacists.

UNTRUE is the only word to describe you're post.

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Postby Seljukestan » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:56 am

San Lumen wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I'm just loyal to my own phenotype which I was born into. If I were native American, my focus would be on keeping to my race if not tribe. If I were Black, I'd probably not be worried because there are plenty of majority Black nations with no signs of the Black population of the world declining any. If I were Asian, I'd perhaps also not have to worry because there are plenty of majority Asian nations with no signs of any disruption there.

But notice however, that it is only primarily majority White nations which are becoming more diverse and less White over time.

Hence, why those who're White need to worry about the prospect of extinction for the skin color, if not becoming a permanent minority everywhere, as opposed to just a global minority in terms of world population.


Your implying there is some mass conspiracy to eliminate white people. There isn’t.

Do you why skin color is a thing? It has to due with the angle and intensity of the sun due to the curvature of the Earth.

Just don't answer, leave these conspiracy theorists to keep making their ideas, although I have to admit bursting their fake bubble is kinda fun...
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Postby Western Theram » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:56 am

Saiwania wrote:
Western Theram wrote:but notice how everything you say isn't true and just repeating the "great replacement" myth


The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.

you being a literal nazi who doesn't even understand genetics doesn't help your point
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:57 am

Saiwania wrote:
Western Theram wrote:but notice how everything you say isn't true and just repeating the "great replacement" myth


The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.

Who is in on this mass conspiracy? What do you suggest the government do? Restore white majorities in places that aren’t? Not allow non whites to hold office in areas that are majority white?

Who cares if white people are having less children?
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Postby Seljukestan » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:57 am

Western Theram wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.

you being a literal nazi who doesn't even understand genetics doesn't help your point


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Postby Kandorith » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:58 am

Saiwania wrote:
Western Theram wrote:but notice how everything you say isn't true and just repeating the "great replacement" myth


The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.


Most countries are not at the same majority as they were in the past, mostly because travelling and migrating has become way easier due to advancement in travel/information. It's not rocket science, nor is it "the great replacement".

More and more am I starting to think that this whole great replacement thing is just an excuse to be racist/bigoted as certain individuals around me seem to believe it too and have become increasingly hostile to any kind of immigrant/foreign culture.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:58 am

Western Theram wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.

you being a literal nazi who doesn't even understand genetics doesn't help your point

He is in fact a literal neo-nazi, calling him a nazi doesn't get you anywhere.

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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:00 am

Saiwania wrote:
Western Theram wrote:but notice how everything you say isn't true and just repeating the "great replacement" myth


The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.

Again, if we're talking about the long term, this will increasingly become a non-issue due to the advent of aging reversal and longevity technologies. By then you'll be more worried about the survival of the 'human phenotype' amid the rise of the cyber-Musk AI-integrated transhumanists intent of an actual Great Replacement, or something.

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:01 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.

Again, if we're talking about the long term, this will increasingly become a non-issue due to the advent of aging reversal and longevity technologies. By then you'll be more worried about the survival of the 'human phenotype' amid the rise of the cyber-Musk AI-integrated transhumanists intent of an actual Great Replacement, or something.

This of course assumes that we as a species survive the next few centuries and don't kill ourselves from Climate Change.

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:03 am

Saiwania wrote:
Western Theram wrote:but notice how everything you say isn't true and just repeating the "great replacement" myth


The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.

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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:06 am

Genivaria wrote:
Resilient Acceleration wrote:Again, if we're talking about the long term, this will increasingly become a non-issue due to the advent of aging reversal and longevity technologies. By then you'll be more worried about the survival of the 'human phenotype' amid the rise of the cyber-Musk AI-integrated transhumanists intent of an actual Great Replacement, or something.

This of course assumes that we as a species survive the next few centuries and don't kill ourselves from Climate Change.

Still though, I think it's appropriate for Sai to give credit where it's due and say: "thank God for the Jewry, for they will save the White Race."

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Postby Dakini » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:06 am

Saiwania wrote:In the end, the people in Japan are all Asian

No they're not. Japan might not be known for having any immigrants, but as a former immigrant to Japan who has a lot of friends who are current immigrants to Japan, I can assure you that not everyone in Japan is Asian.

I mean, you also realise that Japan and Brazil had a sort of exchange that went on for a while so there's historical populations of Brazilians in Japan and Japanese communities in Brazil?

and all have Black hair

No they don't. Natural brown hair is not unheard of.

and similar skin color,

No they don't. While it is trendy to be pale in Japan to the point where you can buy skin bleaching creams (which is why I absolutely avoided buying beauty products while I lived in Japan since my Japanese is terrible and I didn't want to buy one of those by mistake) and you can find women wearing face shields and full sleeves with gloves in the summer, Japanese people can be quite tan, especially if they get a decent amount of sun.

And that's not even getting into the bit where you're probably thinking of the Yamato people only, but Japan has other native ethnic groups.
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Postby Zurkir » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:06 am

Saiwania wrote:
Western Theram wrote:but notice how everything you say isn't true and just repeating the "great replacement" myth


The Great Replacement is no myth, unless someone can genuinely show that the majority White countries out there, are indeed more or just as majority White than they were in the past. This is not the case. If anything, the trend is the opposite because White couples are having fewer children whilst those countries are getting too much immigration from primarily non-White countries.


I despise the phrase “white fragility” but you sound so fragile and manic right now. Your parroting essays one can find on Stormfront or the Proud Boys website at an unreceptive audience that’s collectively refuting you.
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Postby Western Theram » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:06 am

Western Theram wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
I'm just loyal to my own phenotype which I was born into. If I were native American, my focus would be on keeping to my race if not tribe. If I were Black, I'd probably not be worried because there are plenty of majority Black nations with no signs of the Black population of the world declining any. If I were Asian, I'd perhaps also not have to worry because there are plenty of majority Asian nations with no signs of any disruption there.

But notice however, that it is only primarily majority White nations which are becoming more diverse and less White over time.

Hence, why those who're White need to worry about the prospect of extinction for the skin color, if not becoming a permanent minority everywhere, as opposed to just a global minority in terms of world population.

why are you worried about whites becoming a minority? are minorities treated badly or something?

you still haven't answered my question
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:08 am

Western Theram wrote:
Western Theram wrote:why are you worried about whites becoming a minority? are minorities treated badly or something?

you still haven't answered my question

I mean, he's not obligated to.

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Postby Zurkir » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:11 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:
Western Theram wrote:you still haven't answered my question

I mean, he's not obligated to.


But it would be nice if he would answer questions when spewing the kind of rhetoric he is. When one is blasting a big red foghorn people want to know the reasoning.
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