[SUBMITTED] A Seedy Predicament

[Drew Durrnil]

made some cosmetic changes
Edit: Changed the effect lines of options 1&2 and made changes to option 2.

[Drew Durrnil]

fell off the first page /bump

[Electrum]

Wait @@LEADER@@ originally harvested the seeds?

However, an unexpected wildfire ravaged the plant's habitat and completely destroyed any trace of it. --> If that's the case, why are there seeds?

I would have thought the obvious answer to this issue is to plant them in an safe area and harvest more of them... That's what happens when this sort of thing happens and countries make withdrawals from their seed banks.

[Drew Durrnil]

Wait @@LEADER@@ originally harvested the seeds?

However, an unexpected wildfire ravaged the plant's habitat and completely destroyed any trace of it. --> If that's the case, why are there seeds?

I would have thought the obvious answer to this issue is to plant them in an safe area and harvest more of them... That's what happens when this sort of thing happens and countries make withdrawals from their seed banks.

I wasn't the person who originally drafted this issue, but my guess is that the wildfire made the plant extinct in the wild, the leader collected some seeds just before the wildfire, and people are deciding what to use it for. Edited for clarity.

[Lumio Magika]

Wait @@LEADER@@ originally harvested the seeds?

However, an unexpected wildfire ravaged the plant's habitat and completely destroyed any trace of it. --> If that's the case, why are there seeds?

I would have thought the obvious answer to this issue is to plant them in an safe area and harvest more of them... That's what happens when this sort of thing happens and countries make withdrawals from their seed banks.

I wasn't the person who originally drafted this issue, but my guess is that the wildfire made the plant extinct in the wild, the leader collected some seeds just before the wildfire, and people are deciding what to use it for. Edited for clarity.

As the original author, I can say that this is correct, and that my intent was to make the plants unable to be cultivated in any other environment. I.E., can't be grown in a lab, and can only be grown in a certain part of the country, which was burned down by the wildfire. In an older version of option three, This was reflected in dialogue, but I wrote that out when I completely rewrote the option. I did not incorporate it before I transferred the issue to Drew.

[Drew Durrnil]

bump

[Drew Durrnil]

Moving this to last call

[Tinhampton]

Description: you assert both that "an unexpected wildfire... completely destroyed any trace of" the miracle plant and that @@LEADER@@ has "managed to harvest" a "small number of seeds" of said plant. Electrum pointed this out with your earlier draft; why, then, do you continue to assert that a plant which still exists in some form has been "completely destroyed" without qualification?

Validity: Could/can you not think of an Option 4 valid for all nations?

Option 1: Why am I getting the impression from this that @@CAPITA@@ only has one hospital, and why is the hospital director @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@ rather than generic @@RANDOMNAME@@?

Option 2: "as he bursts through the door in a wheelbarrow..." ---> "ramming through the door with a wheelbarrow..."?

Option 3: Why exactly is @@RANDOMNAME@@ claiming that the miracle plant was sacred to the Cult of Harakekara? (OOCly, what does "Harakekara" mean and why did you name the cult after them?)

(Also, does Lumio Magika not seek co-authorship?)

[Drew Durrnil]

Description: you assert both that "an unexpected wildfire... completely destroyed any trace of" the miracle plant and that @@LEADER@@ has "managed to harvest" a "small number of seeds" of said plant. Electrum pointed this out with your earlier draft; why, then, do you continue to assert that a plant which still exists in some form has been "completely destroyed" without qualification?

Validity: Could/can you not think of an Option 4 valid for all nations?

Option 1: Why am I getting the impression from this that @@CAPITA@@ only has one hospital, and why is the hospital director @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@ rather than generic @@RANDOMNAME@@?

Option 2: "as he bursts through the door in a wheelbarrow..." ---> "ramming through the door with a wheelbarrow..."?

Option 3: Why exactly is @@RANDOMNAME@@ claiming that the miracle plant was sacred to the Cult of Harakekara? (OOCly, what does "Harakekara" mean and why did you name the cult after them?)

(Also, does Lumio Magika not seek co-authorship?)

1. I'll change that. (Update: Changed)
2. If it was valid for nations, it would have to be underground, which I don't think is fitting for the cult. (Update: Cult changed into a tribe and general issue validity removed)
3. I assume it sounds better with the next phrase, but I'll change that. (Update: Changed, and the @@CAPITAL@@ Hospital is changed to the @@DENONYM@@ Health Administration)
4. yeah I'll change that (Update: Changed)
5a. cult reasons (Update: Changed to explain the seed's purpose in medicinal practices)
5b/c. idk (Update: Changed, naming the Harakekara tribe after the plant that is the focal point of the issue)
6. he was hospitalized and almost dying

[Lumio Magika]

6. he was hospitalized and almost dying

(Also, does Lumio Magika not seek co-authorship?)

I'm fine with whatever Drew credits me for. It's his issue now, I just supplied the base and the idea.


As a side note, the effect of Option three still says "Cult".

And to address Tin and Electrum's concerns about the urgency of the issue (regarding the possibility of replanting the seeds), i would add the following to the description:

"After lab tests showed they were impossible to cultivate domestically, hordes of...." and so on.
To drive it home a little bit more, It might be a good idea to place a timer on the decision- maybe that the seeds may rot or lose their effectiveness if not used quickly. This will serve to further support that the seeds may not be replanted, but that you also cannot wait for their natural habitat to regrow. I would include this on one of the options. Maybe option one. You might also write an entirely new option for some exposition, but that might be pushing it.

In it's current state, I wouldn't put it in Last Call- There's still too many problems to hammer out, and too many questions to answer.

[Drew Durrnil]

6. he was hospitalized and almost dying

(Also, does Lumio Magika not seek co-authorship?)

I'm fine with whatever Drew credits me for. It's his issue now, I just supplied the base and the idea.


As a side note, the effect of Option three still says "Cult".

And to address Tin and Electrum's concerns about the urgency of the issue (regarding the possibility of replanting the seeds), i would add the following to the description:

"After lab tests showed they were impossible to cultivate domestically, hordes of...." and so on.
To drive it home a little bit more, It might be a good idea to place a timer on the decision- maybe that the seeds may rot or lose their effectiveness if not used quickly. This will serve to further support that the seeds may not be replanted, but that you also cannot wait for their natural habitat to regrow. I would include this on one of the options. Maybe option one. You might also write an entirely new option for some exposition, but that might be pushing it.

In it's current state, I wouldn't put it in Last Call- There's still too many problems to hammer out, and too many questions to answer.

ok, fixed

[Minskiev]

My redraft.

[title] A Seedy Predicament
[description] The exotic Harakekara plant, a plant native to @@NAME@@ whose seeds have extensive medical capabilities, was recently ravaged by an unexpected wildfire, with all traces of it in the wild gone. Corporate representatives, zoologists, and nature lovers have swarmed your office with their suggestions on where to allocate the small number of seeds you managed to save from the fire.

[option] "These seeds are priceless!" exclaims your Minister of Health, @@RANDOMNAME@@. "We already know that they heal superficial wounds, can stop nosebleeds, and speed up the recovery process of banana-peel slips tenfold! These things could save so many lives!" @@HE@@ throws a banana peel on your desk and thrusts a knife into it. "Let's show these slippery yellow menaces that we mean business!"
[effect] ex-hospital patients often seem to have superhuman healing abilities

[optionvalidity] must have private industry
[option] "Priceless, you say?" asks Technoking of TheBoringSpace, Epsom Tusk, as he rams through the door with a wheelbarrow filled with money. "I smell profits! If these seeds are so great, then let's spread the word. You and I can advertise these things as the cure for all ailments, and I'll- er, we'll make a fortune!" He gestures to his assistant, who wheels him out the door, leaving a trail of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@.
[effect] you are not a @@DEMONYM@@ until you have purchased the MagicPlant essential oils

[option] "NO!" bellows a local indigenous tribe member as they frantically place a tinfoil hat on their head. "You've meddled in holy forces that foreigners like you cannot understand! Those seeds are sacred to the Tribe of Harakekara and were a gift that our God of Medicine has sent us for our eternal glory! You must return them at once or face divine retribution!" They collapse to the floor, muttering about hoes and soil.
[effect] members of the Harakekara Tribe are often identifiable by their abnormally healthy appearance

Some notes I have:

1. How does one fire destroy an entire species?
2. What exactly is Option 1 asking for?
3. Effect line 1 is too literal
4. Seeds aren't essential oils last time I checked.

[Lumio Magika]

off the front page bump

[Drew Durrnil]

My redraft.

[title] A Seedy Predicament
[description] The exotic Harakekara plant, a plant native to @@NAME@@ whose seeds have extensive medical capabilities, was recently ravaged by an unexpected wildfire, with all traces of it in the wild gone. Corporate representatives, zoologists, and nature lovers have swarmed your office with their suggestions on where to allocate the small number of seeds you managed to save from the fire.

[option] "These seeds are priceless!" exclaims your Minister of Health, @@RANDOMNAME@@. "We already know that they heal superficial wounds, can stop nosebleeds, and speed up the recovery process of banana-peel slips tenfold! These things could save so many lives!" @@HE@@ throws a banana peel on your desk and thrusts a knife into it. "Let's show these slippery yellow menaces that we mean business!"
[effect] ex-hospital patients often seem to have superhuman healing abilities

[optionvalidity] must have private industry
[option] "Priceless, you say?" asks Technoking of TheBoringSpace, Epsom Tusk, as he rams through the door with a wheelbarrow filled with money. "I smell profits! If these seeds are so great, then let's spread the word. You and I can advertise these things as the cure for all ailments, and I'll- er, we'll make a fortune!" He gestures to his assistant, who wheels him out the door, leaving a trail of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@.
[effect] you are not a @@DEMONYM@@ until you have purchased the MagicPlant essential oils

[option] "NO!" bellows a local indigenous tribe member as they frantically place a tinfoil hat on their head. "You've meddled in holy forces that foreigners like you cannot understand! Those seeds are sacred to the Tribe of Harakekara and were a gift that our God of Medicine has sent us for our eternal glory! You must return them at once or face divine retribution!" They collapse to the floor, muttering about hoes and soil.
[effect] members of the Harakekara Tribe are often identifiable by their abnormally healthy appearance

Some notes I have:

1. How does one fire destroy an entire species?
2. What exactly is Option 1 asking for?
3. Effect line 1 is too literal
4. Seeds aren't essential oils last time I checked.

1. Done
2. The species is endemic to the @@ANIMAL@@ Forest, where its special living conditions can be met.
3. Edited for clarity.
4. Changed
5. Epson Tusk will turn the seeds into essential oils somehow.
I also added Lumio Magika as a coauthor.

[Lumio Magika]

Thank you a lot, Drew


As A side note, here's a redraft that might add a bit more urgency to it (as well as some minor flow tweaks)

[title]A Seedy Predicament
[description] Yesterday, the exotic Harakekara plant, a rare plant native to the @@ANIMAL@@ Forest whose seeds have extensive medical capabilities, was ravaged by an unexpected wildfire that eliminated all traces of it in the wild. After biologists discovered that the plant can not be cultivated via any known means, corporate representatives, zoologists, and nature lovers have swarmed your office with their suggestions on where to allocate the small number of seeds harvesters managed to save from the fire.
[validity]Valid for all nations

[option]"We must act fast!" exclaims your Minister of Health, @@RANDOMNAME@@, as @@HE@@ slams down a stack of papers detailing the locations of local hospitals onto your desk. " These seeds are known to lose their potency if they aren't refined within two days! We already know that they heal superficial wounds, can stop nosebleeds, and speed up the recovery process of banana-peel slips tenfold! These things are also known to cure fatal diseases! Think of the lives we can save!" @@HE@@ throws a banana peel on your desk and thrusts a knife into it. "Let's show these slippery yellow menaces that we mean business!"
[effect]in @@NATION@@, you enter a hospital as a patient and exit as a superhero

[optionvalidity]Invalid for socialist nations
[option]"Do I smell profits?!" exclaims Technoking of TheBoringSpace, Epsom Tusk, as he rams through the door in a wheelbarrow filled with money. " If these seeds are so great, let's spread the word... I'll turn them into vitamin gummies and pills, so I can sell them across the nation in a limited time offer and I'll- er, I mean we'll make a mint!" He gestures to his assistant, who wheels him out the door, leaving a trail of @@CURRENCY@@ in their wake.
[effect]you are not a @@DENONYM@@ until you have purchased the MagicPlant essential oils

[option] "NO!" exclaims local indigenous tribe member @@RANDOMNAME@@ as @@HE@@ frantically places a tinfoil hat on @@HIS@@ head. "You've meddled in holy forces that foreigners like you cannot understand! Those seeds are sacred to the Tribe of Harakekara and are a Gift that our God of Medicine has sent us for our eternal glory! You must return them at once, or face divine retribution!" @@HE@@ collapses to the floor, muttering about omnipotent cats and rainbow elephants.
[effect]members of the Tribe of Harakekara are often identifiable by their unnaturally healthy appearance

[Drew Durrnil]

Thank you a lot, Drew


As A side note, here's a redraft that might add a bit more urgency to it (as well as some minor flow tweaks)

[title]A Seedy Predicament
[description] Yesterday, the exotic Harakekara plant, a rare plant native to the @@ANIMAL@@ Forest whose seeds have extensive medical capabilities, was ravaged by an unexpected wildfire that eliminated all traces of it in the wild. After biologists discovered that the plant can not be cultivated via any known means, corporate representatives, zoologists, and nature lovers have swarmed your office with their suggestions on where to allocate the small number of seeds harvesters managed to save from the fire.
[validity]Valid for all nations

[option]"We must act fast!" exclaims your Minister of Health, @@RANDOMNAME@@, as @@HE@@ slams down a stack of papers detailing the locations of local hospitals onto your desk. " These seeds are known to lose their potency if they aren't refined within two days! We already know that they heal superficial wounds, can stop nosebleeds, and speed up the recovery process of banana-peel slips tenfold! These things are also known to cure fatal diseases! Think of the lives we can save!" @@HE@@ throws a banana peel on your desk and thrusts a knife into it. "Let's show these slippery yellow menaces that we mean business!"
[effect]in @@NATION@@, you enter a hospital as a patient and exit as a superhero

[optionvalidity]Invalid for socialist nations
[option]"Do I smell profits?!" exclaims Technoking of TheBoringSpace, Epsom Tusk, as he rams through the door in a wheelbarrow filled with money. " If these seeds are so great, let's spread the word... I'll turn them into vitamin gummies and pills, so I can sell them across the nation in a limited time offer and I'll- er, I mean we'll make a mint!" He gestures to his assistant, who wheels him out the door, leaving a trail of @@CURRENCY@@ in their wake.
[effect]you are not a @@DENONYM@@ until you have purchased the MagicPlant essential oils

[option] "NO!" exclaims local indigenous tribe member @@RANDOMNAME@@ as @@HE@@ frantically places a tinfoil hat on @@HIS@@ head. "You've meddled in holy forces that foreigners like you cannot understand! Those seeds are sacred to the Tribe of Harakekara and are a Gift that our God of Medicine has sent us for our eternal glory! You must return them at once, or face divine retribution!" @@HE@@ collapses to the floor, muttering about omnipotent cats and rainbow elephants.
[effect]members of the Tribe of Harakekara are often identifiable by their unnaturally healthy appearance

done

[Lumio Magika]

Bumped

[Laka Strolistandiler]

As the description includes a “corporate” notion I would like to ask you to add that socialist states shouldn’t receive this issue. After all, working hard to build a good socialist economy and than have a helload of issues where you’re approached by business leaders and lobbyists isn’t fun

[Lumio Magika]

Good point. It would make it easier, too. As all nations with the issue would have two options, instead of the possibility of them only having one (IE, having socialism and no religion). I'll make sure to pass that on to Drew.

[Drew Durrnil]

Good point. It would make it easier, too. As all nations with the issue would have two options, instead of the possibility of them only having one (IE, having socialism and no religion). I'll make sure to pass that on to Drew.

ok, done

[Lumio Magika]

bump time!

[Drew Durrnil]

/bump

[Lumio Magika]

Magical third bump!

[Drew Durrnil]

fourth /bump coming up
since no one had been giving out feedback for almost 3 weeks I'm moving this to last call

[Drew Durrnil]

I'm submitting this as part of the issues contest