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by Idzequitch » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:21 pm
by Jerzylvania » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:46 pm
Sodoran Alesia wrote:One of Deshaun Watson's accusers has publicly come forward.
I applaud her for her bravery, it was an extremely strong statement. And honestly, we can talk all day about innocent until proven guilty but if there's 20 other women with stories like hers, I think it's done. Watson should never play again.
by Jerzylvania » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:49 pm
Idzequitch wrote:The Falcons have apparently been receiving inquiries from teams interested in trading up to #4 in the draft. The Falcons are said to be open to the possibility of trading the pick away.
by Idzequitch » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:11 pm
Jerzylvania wrote:Sodoran Alesia wrote:One of Deshaun Watson's accusers has publicly come forward.
I applaud her for her bravery, it was an extremely strong statement. And honestly, we can talk all day about innocent until proven guilty but if there's 20 other women with stories like hers, I think it's done. Watson should never play again.
Oh please, maybe you should think more all day instead of this hip shot thoughtless talk!
And how do you expect him to potentially pay court ordered civil damages should a court or several courts order it in multiple cases? If his employer or a potential employer wants to employ him despite these potential convictions then he should continue to have the right to work. Watson will not be getting some long jail sentence for any of this and will STILL need to make a living. And that's not up to you, or the legal system or the bullshit twitter court of public opinion to decide. It's only up to the person or persons that hires him or not. That's the way the world ultimately turns, kid.
by Jerzylvania » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:39 pm
Idzequitch wrote:Jerzylvania wrote:Oh please, maybe you should think more all day instead of this hip shot thoughtless talk!
And how do you expect him to potentially pay court ordered civil damages should a court or several courts order it in multiple cases? If his employer or a potential employer wants to employ him despite these potential convictions then he should continue to have the right to work. Watson will not be getting some long jail sentence for any of this and will STILL need to make a living. And that's not up to you, or the legal system or the bullshit twitter court of public opinion to decide. It's only up to the person or persons that hires him or not. That's the way the world ultimately turns, kid.
Realistically, Watson won't technically be barred from playing. I could see him getting a lengthy suspension out of all this, but technically you are correct, there will probably come a point again where he is eligible to play. However, I think there is also a possibility that public outcry could be loud enough that he becomes essentially unsignable due to the media circus that will be surrounding him. Is the court of public opinion qualified to make that decision? Perhaps not. But again, that's how these things work sometimes. So I agree that he won't be barred from the NFL forever, but I do recognize that there is a real chance he's played his last down. Perhaps not the most likely outcome, but also not a completely unlikely one.
by Impaled Nazarene » Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:22 am
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Ethel mermania » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:30 am
Impaled Nazarene wrote:I know this isn't a Law & Order: SVU episode but it certainly feels weird that this all started happening when he made it clear he wasn't coming back to Houston. It's like the Texans opened the flood gates to sabotage his value and make him pay for leaving. Wouldn't surprise me if teams have been hushing up crimes by big name players to protect themselves.
But like I said this isn't a Law & Order: SVU episode (yet. Dick Wolf can't write anymore so he just rips off current events without creativity) and I doubt that the Houston Texans are criminal masterminds, they are at worst an offense to football.
by Impaled Nazarene » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:50 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Impaled Nazarene wrote:I know this isn't a Law & Order: SVU episode but it certainly feels weird that this all started happening when he made it clear he wasn't coming back to Houston. It's like the Texans opened the flood gates to sabotage his value and make him pay for leaving. Wouldn't surprise me if teams have been hushing up crimes by big name players to protect themselves.
But like I said this isn't a Law & Order: SVU episode (yet. Dick Wolf can't write anymore so he just rips off current events without creativity) and I doubt that the Houston Texans are criminal masterminds, they are at worst an offense to football.
Watsons issues kill his value for Texas. He would have generated multiple draft picks, probably multiple #1's. I can't see anyone shooting themselves in the foot like that
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Ranoria » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:12 pm
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:Watsons issues kill his value for Texas. He would have generated multiple draft picks, probably multiple #1's. I can't see anyone shooting themselves in the foot like that
Only the Knicks would pay that price, not even the Texans would overpay a player that has made the ultimatum. Once word gets out that its either a trade or free agency the market smells blood in the water the value drops significantly. Why trade valuable first rounds when you have the cap to sign him in free agency or you can just pay 2nds and 3rds at best?
by Impaled Nazarene » Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:06 pm
Ranoria wrote:Impaled Nazarene wrote:Only the Knicks would pay that price, not even the Texans would overpay a player that has made the ultimatum. Once word gets out that its either a trade or free agency the market smells blood in the water the value drops significantly. Why trade valuable first rounds when you have the cap to sign him in free agency or you can just pay 2nds and 3rds at best?
First off, because if he doesn’t play he won’t hit free agency.
Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."
-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
by Ethel mermania » Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:44 pm
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:Watsons issues kill his value for Texas. He would have generated multiple draft picks, probably multiple #1's. I can't see anyone shooting themselves in the foot like that
Only the Knicks would pay that price, not even the Texans would overpay a player that has made the ultimatum. Once word gets out that its either a trade or free agency the market smells blood in the water the value drops significantly. Why trade valuable first rounds when you have the cap to sign him in free agency or you can just pay 2nds and 3rds at best?
by Dresderstan » Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:15 pm
by Luminesa » Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:48 pm
by Luminesa » Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:50 pm
Jerzylvania wrote:Sodoran Alesia wrote:One of Deshaun Watson's accusers has publicly come forward.
I applaud her for her bravery, it was an extremely strong statement. And honestly, we can talk all day about innocent until proven guilty but if there's 20 other women with stories like hers, I think it's done. Watson should never play again.
Oh please, maybe you should think more all day instead of this hip shot thoughtless talk!
And how do you expect him to potentially pay court ordered civil damages should a court or several courts order it in multiple cases? If his employer or a potential employer wants to employ him despite these potential convictions then he should continue to have the right to work. Watson will not be getting some long jail sentence for any of this and will STILL need to make a living. And that's not up to you, or the legal system or the bullshit twitter court of public opinion to decide. It's only up to the person or persons that hires him or not. That's the way the world ultimately turns, kid.
by Jerzylvania » Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:10 pm
Luminesa wrote:Jerzylvania wrote:Oh please, maybe you should think more all day instead of this hip shot thoughtless talk!
And how do you expect him to potentially pay court ordered civil damages should a court or several courts order it in multiple cases? If his employer or a potential employer wants to employ him despite these potential convictions then he should continue to have the right to work. Watson will not be getting some long jail sentence for any of this and will STILL need to make a living. And that's not up to you, or the legal system or the bullshit twitter court of public opinion to decide. It's only up to the person or persons that hires him or not. That's the way the world ultimately turns, kid.
I think DeShaun Watson has made enough money to pay for probably a lot of things...
by Jerzylvania » Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:19 pm
"A year later, Rudolph's father was killed at a Florida nightclub after a gun was accidentally discharged, with the bullet going through a wall and striking Darryl Rudolph in the back as he was conducting repairs in another room."
by SorianoraCards » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:33 pm
by Ranoria » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:44 pm
by Idzequitch » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:00 pm
SorianoraCards wrote:Maybe we’ll have all QB’s go 1,2,3 in the draft this year.
by Ranoria » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:47 pm
by Idzequitch » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:13 pm
by Jerzylvania » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:31 pm
Idzequitch wrote:Giovani Bernard is now a free agent after getting released by the Bengals. It's a shame he spent so much time languishing in Cincy behind Mixon. I think he's a pretty solid back, but the market is pretty limited for 29 year old RB's these days.
by Kowani » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:59 pm
Deshaun Watson's attorney Rusty Hardin says he won't dispute that the Texans quarterback ended up having sexual relations with massage therapists during some sessions, but he insists the activity always was consensual.
"In some of these massages there’s going to be no question - we’ve never run from it, our first announcement has always been about consent – that on some occasions some active sexual activity would have taken place," Hardin said during a press conference Friday. "I’m not going into what it is, the nature, or the numbers, or with whom, but I think you can rightfully assume, what we have always been emphasizing, that never at any time, under any circumstances did this young man ever engage in anything that was not mutually desired by the other party."
The civil suits were filed without naming the women - although two came forward with their name this week - but on Friday two Harris County judges ruled in separate hearings that Tony Buzbee - the attorney representing the women - must make the names of the accusers public.
by Ranoria » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:47 pm
Kowani wrote:Deshun Watson's attorney Rusty Hardin says that while Watson did have sexual relations during some massage sessions, they were all consensualDeshaun Watson's attorney Rusty Hardin says he won't dispute that the Texans quarterback ended up having sexual relations with massage therapists during some sessions, but he insists the activity always was consensual.
"In some of these massages there’s going to be no question - we’ve never run from it, our first announcement has always been about consent – that on some occasions some active sexual activity would have taken place," Hardin said during a press conference Friday. "I’m not going into what it is, the nature, or the numbers, or with whom, but I think you can rightfully assume, what we have always been emphasizing, that never at any time, under any circumstances did this young man ever engage in anything that was not mutually desired by the other party."
also, a second update (same link)The civil suits were filed without naming the women - although two came forward with their name this week - but on Friday two Harris County judges ruled in separate hearings that Tony Buzbee - the attorney representing the women - must make the names of the accusers public.
by Shazbotdom » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:13 pm
Kowani wrote:Deshun Watson's attorney Rusty Hardin says that while Watson did have sexual relations during some massage sessions, they were all consensualDeshaun Watson's attorney Rusty Hardin says he won't dispute that the Texans quarterback ended up having sexual relations with massage therapists during some sessions, but he insists the activity always was consensual.
"In some of these massages there’s going to be no question - we’ve never run from it, our first announcement has always been about consent – that on some occasions some active sexual activity would have taken place," Hardin said during a press conference Friday. "I’m not going into what it is, the nature, or the numbers, or with whom, but I think you can rightfully assume, what we have always been emphasizing, that never at any time, under any circumstances did this young man ever engage in anything that was not mutually desired by the other party."
also, a second update (same link)The civil suits were filed without naming the women - although two came forward with their name this week - but on Friday two Harris County judges ruled in separate hearings that Tony Buzbee - the attorney representing the women - must make the names of the accusers public.
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