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Trenakan National News: Trenaka withdraws from the GENA, joins the IFC -:- King Frederick II dissolves Parliament, calls new election on Chancellor Friedel’s request.
by Western Fardelshufflestein » Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:53 pm
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by Hopal » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:13 pm
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:I love US history and presidential trivia, so...
*Cracks knuckles*George Washington
Joe Biden
No contest.
John Adams
Donald Trump
Father of the Navy or of the Space Force? OK, this one is legit a good matchup.
Thomas Jefferson
Barack Obama
I know what TJ did, but the Declaration of Independence. The swivel chair. The swivel chair. Obama hasn't invented anything like the swivel chair.
James Madison
George W. Bush
James Monroe
Bill Clinton
John Quincy Adams
George H.W. Bush
One of these guys really didn't like broccoli, and the other swam naked in the Potomac. The choice is obvious.
Andrew Jackson
Ronald Reagan
Sure.
Martin Van Buren
Jimmy Carter
Meh.
William Henry Harrison
Gerald Ford
I have to go with Harrison. I have to.
John Tyler
Richard Nixon
This one's lowkey a lose-lose, but...Tyler, I guess.
James Polk
Lyndon Johnson
Polk is underrated.
Zachary Taylor
John F. Kennedy
Zachary Taylor for da wiiiiiiiin. (Long story.)
Millard Fillmore
Dwight Eisenhower
He may have lowered the price of the postage stamp, but he does not beat out Ike.
Franklin Pierce
Harry Truman
Truman, I guess, though Pierce has the best hair. But Harry's ghost will give me hell if I don't select him.
James Buchanan
Franklin Roosevelt
Pretty much everyone's better than Buchanan. And, well, Roosevelt led during the Depression and most of WWII, and the US hasn't fallen completely apart yet, so.
Abraham Lincoln
Herbert Hoover
Hoover gets a very bad rap, but he wasn't listening to his advisors...look, he's not the sole cause of the Great Depression, ok?
Ulysses S. Grant
Calvin Coolidge
Crap, both of these guys have merits. And drawbacks.
Rutherford Hayes
Warren Harding
Yus.
James Garfield
Woodrow Wilson
Again, no contest. Garfield was a total Chad who did not deserve to be assassinated, and Wilson was ew.
Chester Arthur
William Howard Taft
Did you know Taft became a Supreme Court judge after he was POTUS? #Themoreyouknow
Grover Cleveland
Theodore Roosevelt
How can I not pick Teddy? He's a Chad.
Benjamin Harrison
William McKinley
McKinley, because he was assassinated and everyone still forgets him.
I notice Andrew Johnson has been omitted, which is just as well. He wasn't a very good prez.
by Western Fardelshufflestein » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:14 pm
Hopal wrote:Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:I love US history and presidential trivia, so...
*Cracks knuckles*George Washington
Joe Biden
No contest.
John Adams
Donald Trump
Father of the Navy or of the Space Force? OK, this one is legit a good matchup.
Thomas Jefferson
Barack Obama
I know what TJ did, but the Declaration of Independence. The swivel chair. The swivel chair. Obama hasn't invented anything like the swivel chair.
James Madison
George W. Bush
James Monroe
Bill Clinton
John Quincy Adams
George H.W. Bush
One of these guys really didn't like broccoli, and the other swam naked in the Potomac. The choice is obvious.
Andrew Jackson
Ronald Reagan
Sure.
Martin Van Buren
Jimmy Carter
Meh.
William Henry Harrison
Gerald Ford
I have to go with Harrison. I have to.
John Tyler
Richard Nixon
This one's lowkey a lose-lose, but...Tyler, I guess.
James Polk
Lyndon Johnson
Polk is underrated.
Zachary Taylor
John F. Kennedy
Zachary Taylor for da wiiiiiiiin. (Long story.)
Millard Fillmore
Dwight Eisenhower
He may have lowered the price of the postage stamp, but he does not beat out Ike.
Franklin Pierce
Harry Truman
Truman, I guess, though Pierce has the best hair. But Harry's ghost will give me hell if I don't select him.
James Buchanan
Franklin Roosevelt
Pretty much everyone's better than Buchanan. And, well, Roosevelt led during the Depression and most of WWII, and the US hasn't fallen completely apart yet, so.
Abraham Lincoln
Herbert Hoover
Hoover gets a very bad rap, but he wasn't listening to his advisors...look, he's not the sole cause of the Great Depression, ok?
Ulysses S. Grant
Calvin Coolidge
Crap, both of these guys have merits. And drawbacks.
Rutherford Hayes
Warren Harding
Yus.
James Garfield
Woodrow Wilson
Again, no contest. Garfield was a total Chad who did not deserve to be assassinated, and Wilson was ew.
Chester Arthur
William Howard Taft
Did you know Taft became a Supreme Court judge after he was POTUS? #Themoreyouknow
Grover Cleveland
Theodore Roosevelt
How can I not pick Teddy? He's a Chad.
Benjamin Harrison
William McKinley
McKinley, because he was assassinated and everyone still forgets him.
I notice Andrew Johnson has been omitted, which is just as well. He wasn't a very good prez.
The omission of Andrew Johnson was a geniune mistake, but it ended up well because it was an even number without him, I don't think anyone would have voted for him anyway, and I think we might be better off pretending Lincoln wasn't assassinated. I'm interested in the story behind Zachary Taylor, the war hero who died as president.
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by Hopal » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:17 pm
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Hopal wrote:The omission of Andrew Johnson was a geniune mistake, but it ended up well because it was an even number without him, I don't think anyone would have voted for him anyway, and I think we might be better off pretending Lincoln wasn't assassinated. I'm interested in the story behind Zachary Taylor, the war hero who died as president.Cleveland, this is all your fault.
by Volodiograd » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:42 pm
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by Hopal » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:56 pm
Volodiograd wrote:I don't feel like this is fair to put Biden as he's been president for a few months only. Moreover, he's currently the president, it's very hard to have a clear view on his policies and decisions (same for Trump, but at least he finished his term). And it would have made some room for Johnson.
by Hopal » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:47 pm
by Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:06 pm
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by Silvedania » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:30 pm
News:All trade with Crabaiaia and Pikala has stopped as diplomats meet in Trenaka. Silvedanians are confused by Quentin Tarantulatino's new film, Seasonal Snackbox(This is a Bojack Horseman reference.) Weird song goes viral for making no sense.
Being president looks like the worst job in the world. -John Mulaney
by Zurkir » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 pm
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by Hopal » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:58 pm
Fillygreed wrote:The poll could maybe get away with 3 options at a time (no multi-voting). Particularly if you worked through the known bad Presidents as the third option. As long as one President in that poll gets an outright majority you would establish that they would beat each of the others in a head-to-head.
Also Washington should sit out the whole tournament. Because he would have wanted it that way!
by Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:37 pm
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by Necroghastia » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:44 pm
by Zurkir » Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:22 pm
Fillygreed wrote:
Washington did own slaves. I guess you could make that fact go away by banging your head on the wall ... but think of all the other good things that you'd force to go away too. Your first kiss. That time you got 100% on a test. That time standing on a pier, when you felt completely happy for no particular reason ...
Sure, it's not the entirely of Washington's story, but if you want to make the case for Washington > Biden then talk about his achievements, and particularly those as President. Given Biden's meagre achievements so far, that should be easy for you.
by Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:47 pm
Zurkir wrote:Fillygreed wrote:
Washington did own slaves. I guess you could make that fact go away by banging your head on the wall ... but think of all the other good things that you'd force to go away too. Your first kiss. That time you got 100% on a test. That time standing on a pier, when you felt completely happy for no particular reason ...
Sure, it's not the entirely of Washington's story, but if you want to make the case for Washington > Biden then talk about his achievements, and particularly those as President. Given Biden's meagre achievements so far, that should be easy for you.
People owned slaves back then. Yes it was indeed terrible. And it’s not only great but was necessary that society move past slavery. But this whole “that President was racist” or “that famous general cheated on his wife” eclipsing all else that person may have accomplished and being presented as a face reason for erasing them from history or belittling them with red ink is just dumb.
It’s logical to suggest other choice Presidents may have been better than him. But Biden????
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by The Archregimancy » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:30 am
by New Jacobland » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:38 am
Silvedania wrote:Not close. Both bad, but not even close.
by Hopal » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:30 am
The Archregimancy wrote:It's a nice idea, but you would have been better off using randomly generated match-ups (as opposed to chronologically opposed matchups moving forward from Washington in one direction and backwards from Biden in the other), and solving your odd number of presidents issue by excluding a sitting president who's only been in office for less than three months rather than the accidental exclusion of Andrew Johnson.
by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:42 am
Hopal wrote:The Archregimancy wrote:It's a nice idea, but you would have been better off using randomly generated match-ups (as opposed to chronologically opposed matchups moving forward from Washington in one direction and backwards from Biden in the other), and solving your odd number of presidents issue by excluding a sitting president who's only been in office for less than three months rather than the accidental exclusion of Andrew Johnson.
My apologies, I probably shouldn't have included Biden, again I apologize for the inclusion of Biden and exclusion of Andrew Johnson. Would you want me to replace Biden with Johnson and re-run that bracket?
by Hopal » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:44 am
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Hopal wrote:My apologies, I probably shouldn't have included Biden, again I apologize for the inclusion of Biden and exclusion of Andrew Johnson. Would you want me to replace Biden with Johnson and re-run that bracket?
Could run him against Jefferson Davis. It would bring you back to an even number and although he wasn't a US president he did preside over millions of people within pre and post war US clay.
by The Archregimancy » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:34 am
Hopal wrote:Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Could run him against Jefferson Davis. It would bring you back to an even number and although he wasn't a US president he did preside over millions of people within pre and post war US clay.
Sure why not? I'll add another matchup putting Andrew Johnson against Jefferson Davis, two horrible presidents.
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