Gun Control 2022 (IV) - Gun Rights, Control, & Government

[Grinning Dragon]

Gary Farmer, D - Fort Lauderdale has proposed an assault weapons ban and a high capacity magazine (>10 rounds) ban for the current legislative session.

In the gunshine state? Are you serious?

What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?
Mass shootings that have gotten high kill counts is something that has been done numerous times before with firearms that wouldn’t be counted as “assault weapons”. More people are murdered m with common household objects than so called “assault weapons”. The entire dejection of what is and isn’t an “assault weapon is based purely on cosmetic features. So how does one justify to themselves that an AWB is a good idea?

Just to add in addition to what 2 Jerz just said, gun control isn't about safety, it's strictly about control and a limitation of an enumerated right they hate, and believe the unwashed masses shouldn't be able to defend themselves even though those wankstains who believe they are our betters and have access to armed security feel safe and secure and such security should only apply to themselves.

[Saiwania]

What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?

The proponents of such bills object to certain firearms that look too "tactical" or militaristic being in civilian hands. They probably believe that with as many such firearms out of circulation as possible, the typical criminal or civilian won't be able to get what's been prohibited or restricted to a greater extent than before. They'll either have to jump through more hoops to get something that's highly illegal/scarce or settle for a weapon that's more common but inferior in terms of capabilities.

The people who oppose "assault weapons" probably object most to high capacity magazines (above 10 rounds) or magazine fed long guns (because such weapons can readily accept magazines that're above 10 rounds of capacity.

You make it so that any long guns that're magazine fed have to have a fixed magazine that is low capacity, and you lessen the firepower that's available but also take the fun/enjoyment factor out of it for some people. This is disregarding the people who're gunsmiths or aren't afraid to make their own modifications anyways, that might be breaking the law or not.

[Neanderthaland]

Police seize real gun disguised as Nerf toy in North Carolina drug raid.

Is it bad that I kinda want one?

[Grinning Dragon]

What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?

The proponents of such bills object to certain firearms that look too "tactical" or militaristic being in civilian hands. They probably believe that with as many such firearms out of circulation as possible, the typical criminal or civilian won't be able to get what's been prohibited or restricted to a greater extent than before. They'll either have to jump through more hoops to get something that's highly illegal/scarce or settle for a weapon that's more common but inferior in terms of capabilities.

The people who oppose "assault weapons" probably object most to high capacity magazines (above 10 rounds) or magazine fed long guns (because such weapons can readily accept magazines that're above 10 rounds of capacity.

You make it so that any long guns that're magazine fed have to have a fixed magazine that is low capacity, and you lessen the firepower that's available but also take the fun/enjoyment factor out of it for some people. This is disregarding the people who're gunsmiths or aren't afraid to make their own modifications anyways, that might be breaking the law or not.

You do realize the 10rd that's been latched onto and constantly being preached by anti gun dipshits is completely arbitrary and retarded. I mean for gods sake, 30rd magazines for the AR is the agreed upon standard capacity going back decades.
I'm still at a loss in how a firearm looks means it dangerous, it's fucking stupid to think this way. Just as its fucking retarded in thinking 10rds = safe 11rds= end of the world.

[Saiwania]

You do realize the 10rd that's been latched onto and constantly being preached by anti gun dipshits is completely arbitrary and retarded. I mean for gods sake, 30rd magazines for the AR is the agreed upon standard capacity going back decades.
I'm still at a loss in how a firearm looks means it dangerous, it's fucking stupid to think this way. Just as its fucking retarded in thinking 10rds = safe 11rds= end of the world.

I know 10 rounds is arbitrary, but that is the precedent that exists for better or worse. In original AWB that only lasted for 10 years, 10 rounds or less came to be what is considered to be low capacity in US gun politics.

[Adamede]

Police seize real gun disguised as Nerf toy in North Carolina drug raid.

Is it bad that I kinda want one?

Meme guns best guns.

Imho the best guns in this style are the Chiappa Rhinos made up to look like Destiny hand cannons.

[Adamede]

What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?

The proponents of such bills object to certain firearms that look too "tactical" or militaristic being in civilian hands. They probably believe that with as many such firearms out of circulation as possible, the typical criminal or civilian won't be able to get what's been prohibited or restricted to a greater extent than before. They'll either have to jump through more hoops to get something that's highly illegal/scarce or settle for a weapon that's more common but inferior in terms of capabilities.

The people who oppose "assault weapons" probably object most to high capacity magazines (above 10 rounds) or magazine fed long guns (because such weapons can readily accept magazines that're above 10 rounds of capacity.

You make it so that any long guns that're magazine fed have to have a fixed magazine that is low capacity, and you lessen the firepower that's available but also take the fun/enjoyment factor out of it for some people. This is disregarding the people who're gunsmiths or aren't afraid to make their own modifications anyways, that might be breaking the law or not.

Magazine capacity o my really offers an advantage against armed opponents.

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but mass shootings target unarmed targets. Gun free zones are a particular favorite it seems.

I suggest you look up the University of Texas tower shootings. 18 people killed with a fixed magazine bolt action hunting rifle.

[Giovenith]

MMk, if you say so. I disagree vehemently, but what-evs.

In both cases you said "scamdemic money" and saying it two times makes it clearly about the money (and the scam being the people getting money from government whether they need it or not).

NVI has taken one word, out of the context of a word forming a phrase with it. But your only defense is that you meant something else, and since you can't prove that it's a waste of time appealing.

Sometimes I think the hidden purpose of NSG is to make ordinary people talk like lawyers.

Don't flatter yourself.

Due to both your history and the fact that you have offended elsewhere today (Nobody is interested in your critique or commentary on Mod rulings. Mind your own business.), you can have a *** 1-day-ban for flamebaiting and gloating ***.

[Grinning Dragon]

You do realize the 10rd that's been latched onto and constantly being preached by anti gun dipshits is completely arbitrary and retarded. I mean for gods sake, 30rd magazines for the AR is the agreed upon standard capacity going back decades.
I'm still at a loss in how a firearm looks means it dangerous, it's fucking stupid to think this way. Just as its fucking retarded in thinking 10rds = safe 11rds= end of the world.

I know 10 rounds is arbitrary, but that is the precedent that exists for better or worse. In original AWB that only lasted for 10 years, 10 rounds or less came to be what is considered to be low capacity in US gun politics.

Isn't a precedent, it was arbitrarily latched onto after misconstruing a statement by Bill Ruger who had made some off the cuff remark about firearms don't need capacity beyond 10rds when out in the field hunting.

[Window Land]

Police seize real gun disguised as Nerf toy in North Carolina drug raid.

Is it bad that I kinda want one?

I kinda also want one, but I also kinda want to get rid of them all- seems like a great way to cause an accidental shooting.

[The Two Jerseys]

Police seize real gun disguised as Nerf toy in North Carolina drug raid.

Is it bad that I kinda want one?

Yes, it looks like it would be a bitch to clear the stoppages when that drum inevitably fails to feed.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

What I want to know, hypothetically from a gun control perspective, is in the context of lowering gun crime, how exactly is an AWB supposed to work?
Mass shootings that have gotten high kill counts is something that has been done numerous times before with firearms that wouldn’t be counted as “assault weapons”. More people are murdered m with common household objects than so called “assault weapons”. The entire dejection of what is and isn’t an “assault weapon is based purely on cosmetic features. So how does one justify to themselves that an AWB is a good idea?

It doesn't need to work, it just needs to convince white suburban housewives who have been spoon-fed propaganda that little Tyler and Dakota are going to be gunned down by the classmate they've been allowed to get away with bullying for so long with a scary black rifle to vote Democrat.

More or less to set a precedent as to what sorts of bull they are allowed to pass, and when that inevitably doesn't work they just say they didn't nearly go far enough and expand the scope to extents that wouldn't have originally been able to pass on current enforcement of constitutional grounds.

More or less they think the US system of laws works exactly like the British system.... It don't.

[The Chuck]

If a magazine capacity ban hits but grandfathers in the old magazines we all have... I plan on stocking up on replacement parts for those magazines... spare magazine springs, spare magazine followers, spare magazine base plates, and spare magazine housings... Just so all my magazines will remain in functioning condition...

[Adamede]

If a magazine capacity ban hits but grandfathers in the old magazines we all have... I plan on stocking up on replacement parts for those magazines... spare magazine springs, spare magazine followers, spare magazine base plates, and spare magazine housings... Just so all my magazines will remain in functioning condition...

Be cheaper and easier to just stock up on the magazines themselves. Or just 3D print them.

[Germanic Templars]

If a magazine capacity ban hits but grandfathers in the old magazines we all have... I plan on stocking up on replacement parts for those magazines... spare magazine springs, spare magazine followers, spare magazine base plates, and spare magazine housings... Just so all my magazines will remain in functioning condition...

Be cheaper and easier to just stock up on the magazines themselves. Or just 3D print them.

Luty SMG but with some plastic for added comfort?

[The Chuck]

If a magazine capacity ban hits but grandfathers in the old magazines we all have... I plan on stocking up on replacement parts for those magazines... spare magazine springs, spare magazine followers, spare magazine base plates, and spare magazine housings... Just so all my magazines will remain in functioning condition...

Be cheaper and easier to just stock up on the magazines themselves. Or just 3D print them.

*cough*...



On a side note... https://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronsmith ... e9f2f33edd

As an Asian American... Yeah, bad shit happens and it is best to be prepared. The world isn't all sunshine and rainbows so... stay strapped or get clapped.

[Adamede]

Be cheaper and easier to just stock up on the magazines themselves. Or just 3D print them.

Luty SMG but with some plastic for added comfort?

Man if you’re going to do that might as well go with the FGC 9

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Luty SMG but with some plastic for added comfort?

Man if you’re going to do that might as well go with the FGC 9

Repeating pipe gun.

[Germanic Templars]

Luty SMG but with some plastic for added comfort?

Man if you’re going to do that might as well go with the FGC 9

That is like Luty 2.0, I want Luty 1.5 update patch; more metal than plastic, but you still have plastic to provide some comfort.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Man if you’re going to do that might as well go with the FGC 9

That is like Luty 2.0, I want Luty 1.5 update patch; more metal than plastic, but you still have plastic to provide some comfort.

Wooden "Pre-Carbon-Fibre" AR-15 with a third hole.

Although if going that route, may as well re-work the hammer and trigger system into an open-bolt semi-auto.

[Grinning Dragon]

FBI’s Shadow Gun Bans Threaten First and Second Amendment Rights
I myself would welcome the complete destruction and elimination of the background bullshit.

[Paddy O Fernature]

FBI’s Shadow Gun Bans Threaten First and Second Amendment Rights
I myself would welcome the complete destruction and elimination of the background bullshit.

As would I, as well as the complete elimination of "may issue" bullshit stature in states such as the one I am currently living in.

[Grinning Dragon]

FBI’s Shadow Gun Bans Threaten First and Second Amendment Rights
I myself would welcome the complete destruction and elimination of the background bullshit.

As would I, as well as the complete elimination of "may issue" bullshit stature in states such as the one I am currently living in.

Yeah, may issue is complete bullshit. The whole carry issue must be by default you can carry and it's the govts job to prove why you cannot.

Also difi is throwing a fit and threatening to spearhead the elimination of the filibuster as her lasted tyrant driven gun control bill seems to be dead/indefinitely stalled in the senate.

[The Two Jerseys]

As would I, as well as the complete elimination of "may issue" bullshit stature in states such as the one I am currently living in.

Yeah, may issue is complete bullshit. The whole carry issue must be by default you can carry and it's the govts job to prove why you cannot.

Also difi is throwing a fit and threatening to spearhead the elimination of the filibuster as her lasted tyrant driven gun control bill seems to be dead/indefinitely stalled in the senate.

Does that hag want quorum calls? Because this is how you get quorum calls.

[Grinning Dragon]

Yeah, may issue is complete bullshit. The whole carry issue must be by default you can carry and it's the govts job to prove why you cannot.

Also difi is throwing a fit and threatening to spearhead the elimination of the filibuster as her lasted tyrant driven gun control bill seems to be dead/indefinitely stalled in the senate.

Does that hag want quorum calls? Because this is how you get quorum calls.

The ol whore wants one party rule, her party as they think they know what's best for us.

Also, I find it suspiciously convenient over these last two shootings, with a slew of anti gun bullshit bills languishing in the senate, it's enough to make my spidey senses tingle.