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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:26 am

Outer Sparta wrote:
Refuge Isle wrote:I have absolutely never understood people's random interest in quorum raiding something which will likely fail by 85% at vote.

What do you think the Against button is for? Have some faith in the democratic process.

I also only see Dilber as the only major delegate to vote for if it goes to a vote. You can't blame them, having a condemn badge would look nice.

I’d like to think Dilber would want a well written, well researched resolution behind the shiny badge.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:22 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I also only see Dilber as the only major delegate to vote for if it goes to a vote. You can't blame them, having a condemn badge would look nice.

I’d like to think Dilber would want a well written, well researched resolution behind the shiny badge.

Fair enough.
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Drew Durrnil
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:12 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I also only see Dilber as the only major delegate to vote for if it goes to a vote. You can't blame them, having a condemn badge would look nice.

I’d like to think Dilber would want a well written, well researched resolution behind the shiny badge.

Well, it's Dilber, so maybe not...
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Christian Terra
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Postby Christian Terra » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:18 am

One, it apparently has reached the quorum
Second, I am definitely voting for this one, long live democracy

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Drew Durrnil
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:24 am

Christian Terra wrote:One, it apparently has reached the quorum
Second, I am definitely voting for this one, long live democracy

Voting for because Dilber is seemingly never sober when it comes to things like this
Also, even if this resolution is poorly-written, at least its not Condemn (or Commend, for that matter) TCB...
and its a meme
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Postby Outer Sparta » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:44 am

Christian Terra wrote:One, it apparently has reached the quorum
Second, I am definitely voting for this one, long live democracy

You're voting for a terrible resolution then? I mean I would support a proper condemnation of Dilber, but this one is anything but proper.
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Postby Nosam Republic » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:03 am

Why do these joke condemnations keep making it to the floor? Aren't there better things to vote on?
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Drew Durrnil
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:04 am

Nosam Republic wrote:Why do these joke condemnations keep making it to the floor? Aren't there better things to vote on?

Not at the moment, no.
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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:06 am

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Also to the OP; there was really no need to post this. If it was getting close to at at quorum, then yes. But at the moment.....?

This did not age well
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Postby Dilber » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:33 am

Voted for (with the expectation that if it somehow passes it probably gets repealed)

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Vote down

Postby Brilliantly » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:35 am

Drew Durrnil wrote:Oh f*ck not this again
Condemn Dilber
Proposed by: A melted instant pot lid

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The Security Council

NOTING that the World Assembly is a democratic institution

BELIEVING it should be a responsibility of the World Assembly to spread democracy even to those who don’t want it

HORRIFIED that the West Pacific under Dilber has become an undemocratic region with few of any elections


SHOCKED by the rampant corruption of Dilber allows even the selling of regional up-and-comers such as Varanius

Very bad / illegal proposal. In the clause of “ Believing it should be a responsibility of the World Assembly ( THIS IS THE SECURITY Council not even the WA ) to spread democracy even to these who don’t want it ?? That just horrible. People who rule nations that are not democracy can not be forced to change to democracy. Furthermore, Even non-democracy classifications in WA ( for example free market paradise) can prosper just like democracy and even more.
Vote down this proposal please.

CASUALLY OBJECTING to the raids conducted by the so called “West Pacific Armed Forces” and the damage to regional communities these individuals cause by changing WFEs

GASPING at the atrocities committed by Dilber against the eyes of regionmates

SOMEHOW STILL SHOCKED that Dilber has repeatedly taunted and bullied fellow nations such as Xoriet and Varanius even if the former completely deserves it

ASSERTING that these heinous actions can not be left unpunished

HEREBY condemns Dilber

Proposal link: https://www.nationstates.net/page=UN_vi ... 1615592689


Why did this happen?
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Postby Bingsearching » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:38 am

Dilber wrote:Voting yes

I hope that is a very tactical and well thought through move?

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:38 am

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Christian Terra wrote:One, it apparently has reached the quorum
Second, I am definitely voting for this one, long live democracy

Voting for because Dilber is seemingly never sober when it comes to things like this
Also, even if this resolution is poorly-written, at least its not Condemn (or Commend, for that matter) TCB...
and its a meme

I voted against
Also this vote is uncomfortably close ;-;
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Postby Sorianora » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:43 am

I zoned out of SC for a week, but how tf did this teach quorum?
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Brilliantly
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Postby Brilliantly » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:44 am

Yes. Please vote against. Also are you the drew from YouTube ? I watched your nationstates video.
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Postby Dilber » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:46 am

Bingsearching wrote:
Dilber wrote:Voting yes

I hope that is a very tactical and well thought through move?



It always is.

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:49 am

Brilliantly wrote:Yes. Please vote against. Also are you the drew from YouTube ? I watched your nationstates video.

no lmao
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Postby Aelyria » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:08 am

So, is there some kind of thing going on, like a protest against the Security Council or a criticism of condemnations or the like? Because this is the second or third time that a complete garbage proposal has (somehow) reached quorum and been delivered to the floor, and I cannot fathom why this keeps happening.

Do people really have so little to do?

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Postby Drew Durrnil » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:11 am

Aelyria wrote:So, is there some kind of thing going on, like a protest against the Security Council or a criticism of condemnations or the like? Because this is the second or third time that a complete garbage proposal has (somehow) reached quorum and been delivered to the floor, and I cannot fathom why this keeps happening.

Do people really have so little to do?

No one likes TWP/Dilber
That's why
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Postby Arclandia » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:17 am

BELIEVING it should be a responsibility of the World Assembly to spread democracy even to those who don’t want it

It should absolutely not be the WASC's job to spread democracy. That's not the only freedom-loving, viable government style, and that paragraph alone should be enough to steer anyone into voting against this obvious Corporatist dogma.

This is why we are protest voting against any form of WA action that isn't a repeal.
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Postby Scalizagasti » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:35 am

lol
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Postby Jedinsto » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:36 am

"Why."
-Ambassador James DuBois upon this proposal reaching his desk

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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:39 am

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Also to the OP; there was really no need to post this. If it was getting close to at at quorum, then yes. But at the moment.....?

This did not age well

Maybe. Neither will your pathetic attempt at an SC resolution currently seeking approvals.

Edit: I see you've pulled your rancid proposal.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Brilliantly
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More on the proposal

Postby Brilliantly » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:40 am

Yes this proposal is poorly researched and posted in words that make my nation comfortable with this SC proposal.
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Postby GRHB WA nation » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:42 am

This proposal is poorly worded. I support condemning Dilber for these actions, but not like this.

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