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More Americans Identify as LGBT than ever before

Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:52 pm

https://abcnews.go.com/US/americans-ide ... d=76097305

A new poll has found that more adults identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender than ever before.

According to a Gallup poll released Wednesday, 5.6% of United States adults identify as LGBT. That's up from 4.5%, based on the company's 2017 data. In 2012, when Gallup began tracking the measure, that number was 3.5%.

I find it very interesting the numbers are going up. I cannot explain with certainty why it is very welcome news more people are being open about their sexual orientation. A likely reason could be increasing majority support for LGBT rights and overall acceptance. Public figures being open about it including people in elected office likely gives vindication.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the numbers have grown in other countries too. Your thoughts NSG?
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Postby Aracrom » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:54 pm

inb4 gay propaganda conspiracy post

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Postby Nilokeras » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:I find it very interesting the numbers are going up while I am at a loss to explain why with any certainty


San Lumen wrote:Perhaps it could be increasing majority support for LGBT rights and overall acceptance.


It sure is a mystery
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Postby The united American-Isreali empire » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:55 pm

I'm just surprised.

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:58 pm

Boo! Nothing makes me feel more Queer than being left out >:(
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Postby Czechostan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:00 pm

I'm honestly surprised it's that low, but looking at the results across generations, it makes more sense.

People are growing up in a world where the gender binary and heteronormativity are eroding away, so this number will only increase.

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:02 pm

Aracrom wrote:inb4 gay propaganda conspiracy post


It's not forbidden afaik, but mods have frowned on INB4 posts. They're a bit like spamming: if they're proper funny then they're just a joke. Otherwise, they're spamming.

Oh never mind. Just giving you a taste of what we serve up here: picking out petty faults in each other's posts.
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Postby Punished UMN » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/US/americans-identify-lgbt-poll/story?id=76097305

A new poll has found that more adults identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender than ever before.

According to a Gallup poll released Wednesday, 5.6% of United States adults identify as LGBT. That's up from 4.5%, based on the company's 2017 data. In 2012, when Gallup began tracking the measure, that number was 3.5%.

I find it very interesting the numbers are going up while I am at a loss to explain why with any certainty it is very welcome news more people are being open about their sexual orientation. Perhaps it could be increasing majority support for LGBT rights and overall acceptance. Public figures being open about it including people in elected office likely gives vindication.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the numbers have grown in other countries too. Your thoughts NSG?

The numbers are going up because increasing acceptance has made it more likely that LGBT people openly identify with it.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:04 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if a large percentage of the population was bisexual, but so heavily tilted towards one end that they assume they are straight.

Sometimes I wonder that about myself, but it'd be close enough to straight to not matter either way, as with the above.
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Postby Molither » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:04 pm

Around 16% of my Generation (Gen Z) identify as LGBT according to that survey


I see this as welcome news, in the past people had to keep their sexuality under wraps - human sexuality is more fluid than we’ve been led to believe.
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Postby Baldwin Park » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/US/americans-identify-lgbt-poll/story?id=76097305

A new poll has found that more adults identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender than ever before.

According to a Gallup poll released Wednesday, 5.6% of United States adults identify as LGBT. That's up from 4.5%, based on the company's 2017 data. In 2012, when Gallup began tracking the measure, that number was 3.5%.

I find it very interesting the numbers are going up while I am at a loss to explain why with any certainty it is very welcome news more people are being open about their sexual orientation. Perhaps it could be increasing majority support for LGBT rights and overall acceptance. Public figures being open about it including people in elected office likely gives vindication.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the numbers have grown in other countries too. Your thoughts NSG?


Not everyone thats LGBT is necessarilly out. I don't see people anywhere being more inclusive except in some enclaves. Hate crimes are still an issue as is harrassment.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:07 pm

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San Lumen wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/US/americans-identify-lgbt-poll/story?id=76097305

A new poll has found that more adults identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender than ever before.

According to a Gallup poll released Wednesday, 5.6% of United States adults identify as LGBT. That's up from 4.5%, based on the company's 2017 data. In 2012, when Gallup began tracking the measure, that number was 3.5%.

I find it very interesting the numbers are going up while I am at a loss to explain why with any certainty it is very welcome news more people are being open about their sexual orientation. Perhaps it could be increasing majority support for LGBT rights and overall acceptance. Public figures being open about it including people in elected office likely gives vindication.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the numbers have grown in other countries too. Your thoughts NSG?


Not everyone thats LGBT is necessarilly out. I don't see people anywhere being more inclusive except in some enclaves. Hate crimes are still an issue as is harrassment.


What makes you think it’s just some enclaves?

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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:10 pm

Makes sense, more people not afraid to say they're LGBT, more people who see the growing acceptance of being LGBT and thereby feel more comfortable questioning their own sexuality etc.

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Postby Molither » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:12 pm

The LGBT community should see this as welcome news as it means there’s a larger dating pool as a proportion of the population


Straight people should also see this as welcome news as there’s less competition lol
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Postby Baldwin Park » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Not everyone thats LGBT is necessarilly out. I don't see people anywhere being more inclusive except in some enclaves. Hate crimes are still an issue as is harrassment.


What makes you think it’s just some enclaves?


I don't think Poland or the Southern US would be cool with LGBT people being out.

I think if youre in some rural areas of the US you will get attacked or killed just for existing if they know youre LGBT. I don't think society is as inclusive outside of cosmopolitain areas. Just my experience leads me to believe this.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:15 pm

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San Lumen wrote:
What makes you think it’s just some enclaves?


I don't think Poland or the Southern US would be cool with LGBT people being out.

I think if youre in some rural areas of the US you will get attacked or killed just for existing if they know youre LGBT. I don't think society is as inclusive outside of cosmopolitain areas. Just my experience leads me to believe this.


Atlanta has one of the highest LGBT populations in the US.

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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Baldwin Park wrote:
I don't think Poland or the Southern US would be cool with LGBT people being out.

I think if youre in some rural areas of the US you will get attacked or killed just for existing if they know youre LGBT. I don't think society is as inclusive outside of cosmopolitain areas. Just my experience leads me to believe this.


Atlanta has one of the highest LGBT populations in the US.


Drive, like, 60 miles north of there and ask the same question.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:16 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Atlanta has one of the highest LGBT populations in the US.


Drive, like, 60 miles north of there and ask the same question.

Yes true. Rural areas are less generally accepting.

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Postby New haven america » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:18 pm

Czechostan wrote:I'm honestly surprised it's that low, but looking at the results across generations, it makes more sense.

People are growing up in a world where the gender binary and heteronormativity are eroding away, so this number will only increase.

LGBT individuals only make up ~1%-3% of most animal populations that reproduce sexually.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:20 pm

Generally speaking, education about how LGBTQ+ people exist is an important detail, since they'd be more accepted if people learn about them simultaneously with learning about straight relationships.

I mean, I only learned that non-straight people actually existed in 2016 or so, and I'm not sure when everyone else here learned about them, but that would go to show how it would be important for kids to be aware of them in the same way they'd be aware of straight relationships at that age if it's desired that non-straight relationships be perceived as no different from straight ones.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:23 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:Generally speaking, education about how LGBTQ+ people exist is an important detail, since they'd be more accepted if people learn about them simultaneously with learning about straight relationships.

I mean, I only learned that non-straight people actually existed in 2016 or so, and I'm not sure when everyone else here learned about them, but that would go to show how it would be important for kids to be aware of them in the same way they'd be aware of straight relationships at that age if it's desired that non-straight relationships be perceived as no different from straight ones.

I learned non-straight people existed when I was 8 and the other kids started calling me a faggot for not playing or liking sports.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:26 pm

Molither wrote:Around 16% of my Generation (Gen Z) identify as LGBT according to that survey


I see this as welcome news, in the past people had to keep their sexuality under wraps - human sexuality is more fluid than we’ve been led to believe.

16%? Dang, noice.
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What makes you think it’s just some enclaves?


I don't think Poland or the Southern US would be cool with LGBT people being out.

I think if youre in some rural areas of the US you will get attacked or killed just for existing if they know youre LGBT. I don't think society is as inclusive outside of cosmopolitain areas. Just my experience leads me to believe this.

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Postby Nilokeras » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:27 pm

New haven america wrote:
Czechostan wrote:I'm honestly surprised it's that low, but looking at the results across generations, it makes more sense.

People are growing up in a world where the gender binary and heteronormativity are eroding away, so this number will only increase.

LGBT individuals only make up ~1%-3% of most animal populations that reproduce sexually.


What a very specific and suspiciously uniform figure - those are usually correct right?

Wikipedia wrote:One report on sheep found that 8% of rams exhibited homosexual preferences—that is, even when given a choice, they chose male over female partners
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Mallards have rates of male-male sexual activity that are unusually high for birds, in some cases, as high as 19% of all pairs in a population.
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In wild little brown bats (Myotis lucifugus), males often mount other males (and females) during late autumn and winter, when many of the mounted individuals are torpid. 35% of matings during this period are homosexual.
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Male giraffes have been observed to engage in remarkably high frequencies of homosexual behavior. After aggressive "necking", it is common for two male giraffes to caress and court each other, leading up to mounting and climax. Such interactions between males have been found to be more frequent than heterosexual coupling.[75] In one study, up to 94% of observed mounting incidents took place between two males. The proportion of same sex activities varied between 30 and 75%, and at any given time one in twenty males were engaged in non-combative necking behavior with another male. Only 1% of same-sex mounting incidents occurred between females
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Roughly 60% of all bonobo sexual activity occurs between two or more females.
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Ovis aries has attracted much attention due to the fact that around 8–10% of rams have an exclusive homosexual orientation. Such rams prefer to court and mount other rams only, even in the presence of estrous ewes. Moreover, around 18–22% of rams are bisexual.
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Male homosexuality has been inferred in several species of dragonflies (the order Odonata). The cloacal pinchers of male damselflies and dragonflies inflict characteristic head damage to females during sex. A survey of 11 species of damsel and dragonflies has revealed such mating damages in 20 to 80% of the males too, indicating a fairly high occurrence of sexual coupling between males.

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Postby New haven america » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:28 pm

Nilokeras wrote:
New haven america wrote:LGBT individuals only make up ~1%-3% of most animal populations that reproduce sexually.


What a very specific and suspiciously uniform figure - those are usually correct right?

Wikipedia wrote:One report on sheep found that 8% of rams exhibited homosexual preferences—that is, even when given a choice, they chose male over female partners
...
Mallards have rates of male-male sexual activity that are unusually high for birds, in some cases, as high as 19% of all pairs in a population.
...
In wild little brown bats (Myotis lucifugus), males often mount other males (and females) during late autumn and winter, when many of the mounted individuals are torpid. 35% of matings during this period are homosexual.
...
Male giraffes have been observed to engage in remarkably high frequencies of homosexual behavior. After aggressive "necking", it is common for two male giraffes to caress and court each other, leading up to mounting and climax. Such interactions between males have been found to be more frequent than heterosexual coupling.[75] In one study, up to 94% of observed mounting incidents took place between two males. The proportion of same sex activities varied between 30 and 75%, and at any given time one in twenty males were engaged in non-combative necking behavior with another male. Only 1% of same-sex mounting incidents occurred between females
...
Roughly 60% of all bonobo sexual activity occurs between two or more females.
...
Ovis aries has attracted much attention due to the fact that around 8–10% of rams have an exclusive homosexual orientation. Such rams prefer to court and mount other rams only, even in the presence of estrous ewes. Moreover, around 18–22% of rams are bisexual.
...
Male homosexuality has been inferred in several species of dragonflies (the order Odonata). The cloacal pinchers of male damselflies and dragonflies inflict characteristic head damage to females during sex. A survey of 11 species of damsel and dragonflies has revealed such mating damages in 20 to 80% of the males too, indicating a fairly high occurrence of sexual coupling between males.

It seems you don't understand what the word "Most" means, Bakery.

I hear most ("Most" generally means "Not all, but the vast majority") high schools offer some form of remedial classes for adults. Maybe you could attend one of their English classes sometime? :)
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Postby Czechostan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:31 pm

New haven america wrote:
Czechostan wrote:I'm honestly surprised it's that low, but looking at the results across generations, it makes more sense.

People are growing up in a world where the gender binary and heteronormativity are eroding away, so this number will only increase.

LGBT individuals only make up ~1%-3% of most animal populations that reproduce sexually.

Interesting. I don't know that there's a "natural percentage" of LGBT people among humans though, especially given the cross-generational disparity.

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