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by Tracian Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:34 am
by TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:47 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Sorry Banzai, but your reservation expired over 12 hours ago. If Oscal's reservation also expires then I will review your app with priority and accept it.
by Kenobot » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:05 am
Kenobot wrote:Full Nation Name : Sacrum Imperium Romanum (Holy Roman Empire)
Majority/Official Culture : German/Italian/Hungarian/Czech/Slovak/Swiss
Territorial Core : Austria, Lombardy, Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Istria, Switzerland, Croatia, Transylvania
Territorial Claim : Germany, Italy, Croatia, Netherlands, Belgium
Capital City : Vienna
Population : 20 Million
Government Type : Semi-Constitutional Federal Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : Revanchist/Anti-Revolutionary
Government Focus : Emperor
Head of State : Emperor Francis II
Head of Government : Grand Duke Ferdinand III of Lombardy
Government Description : The Holy Roman Empire has evolved since the Revolution from the grand confederation of German cities, baronies, counties and duchies into a federation consisting of the Grand Duchy of Lombardy, Kingdom of Hungary, Archduchy of Austria, The Duchy of Schweiz, The Kingdom of Bohemia, The Duchy of Transylvania and the Grand Duchy of Croatia. While central authority still holds true in Vienna, the regional Dukes and Palatines conduct day-to-day governance in these territories.
Majority/State Religion : Catholicism
Religious Description : While Catholicism by far remains the strongest Christian sect in the Holy Roman Empire, Orthodoxy still remains a strong force in parts of Hungary and southern Croatia. Something Emperor Francis II is well aware of. Meanwhile in court at Vienna, those Protestant princes that did not flee to Moscow, Paris or Constantinople ended up in-exile in the Emperor's Court. Their talents would not go to waste.
Economic Ideologies : Capitalism
Major Production : Textiles, Iron, Coal, Agricultural Products
Economic Description : From the coal of Bohemia and Hungary to the Textiles of the Alps and Lombardy to the Agricultural Products of all the empire, the Holy Roman Empire may seem a backwater from its largely rural territory but the regional centres like Vienna, Buda and Pest, Milan, Prague and Zagreb are centres of industry that are among the foremost in Europe.
Development: Industrializing
Development Description : Thanks to the innovations out of Vienna, Bohemia and the Alps, the Industrialization of the Holy Roman Empire is well underway.
Army Description : The Imperial Army of the Holy Roman Empire, once a juggernaut, after much war over the last 30 years has had its wings clipped and reduced in size significantly from its peak. That being said, it still retains a sizeable force with some of the most seasoned officers in all Europe among its ranks, with names like Blücher, Clausewitz, Archduke Charles and The Prince of Schwarzenberg among its ranks. The Imperial Army, numbering some 175,000, is divided among four military districts; Österreichisches Kommando(Austrian Command), Erdélyi parancsnokság (Transylvanian Command), České velení (Bohemian Command) and Comando Lombardia (Lombardy Command). Austrian Command was the largest, with some 75,000 men, followed by Bohemia's 70,000. Transylvanian Command included 15,000 men as did Lombardy Command. The Hungarian Hussars were perhaps the best Hussars in Europe and were spread throughout the Imperial Army, while Austrian light infantry were known for their ferocious ambushes of enemy columns during the Revolutionary war.
Army Weakness : Language Barrier. Although Francis's father had brought back Latin as the common tongue of the Empire to ease this problem, it was not yet common enough to ensure that the many peoples of the HRE could understand each other.
Naval Description : Comprised largely of those ships who managed to escape the revolutionary blockade during the early years of the Revolutionary Wars, the Holy Roman Fleet is experienced and decently sized but their ships are outdated and none are larger than 60 guns.
Naval Weakness : The Holy Roman Fleet, while experienced and of a decent size, is largely comprised of the fleets of the former Northern Merchant cities such as Bremen, Hamburg and Lubeck and as such the ships are outdated.
Further Military Description :
National Goals : Complete the political reforms of Ferdinand I to secure the Empire’s existence, restore Imperial rule in Germany and crush Republicanism
National Issues : The resentment of the Habsburgs in Germany, the Nobility getting in the way of reform, and Republican Militarism
National Figures of Interest : Leader of the Noble resistance against Francis II is Klemens, Prince of Metternich-Winneburg zu Beilstein
National Ambition/Aspirations : A Liberal Holy Roman Empire that stretches from the Rhine to the Carpathians
History :
late 900's - The Hungarian Árpád Dynasty is split in two; during the conversion to Christianity half of the Dynasty embrace the Latin Rites, while the other half influenced by the Eastern Roman Empire embrace Greek Rites; soon this would expand as the Schism between Orthodoxy and Catholicism became official.
1273 - Holy Roman Emperor Rudolph I, the first Habsburg Emperor creates the Grand Duchy of Schweiz out of the Habsburg Swiss territories
1500's - 1600's The Eastern Roman Empire, never fully acknowledging the legitimacy of the Holy Roman Empire, always sought to restore their rule as far west as possible and successive emperors managed to restore the Danube border and attempted to avert other possible conflicts with Catholic states by establishing buffer vassal states, but this brought them into conflict with the Holy Roman Emperors. The Kingdom of Hungary was the core of this new conflict, as the split between its Catholic and Orthodox populations, and the death of its final legitimate king in a civil war during the Battle of Mohacs led to both Emperors supporting different claimants. The Great Eastern War, as it was called, was in fact a series of wars, waged sometimes by the two empires directly, otherwise through supporting different claimants and nations, and they eventually ended by the 1600’s with a peace treaty that confirmed Habsburg rule over Hungary and parts of Croatia, but acknowledged the independence of the other south-eastern European states.
It was at this same time that the Great Peasant Wars that reshaped the Empire also took place. The First Great Peasant War began in 1524 and lasted three years until 1527, the reasons behind the war were quite simplistic, the major ones being the institution of serfdom and religious strife. The peasants intended to force an abolition of Serfdom across Germany and the Empire and to also force the aristocracy to accept a series of Rights that would grant the proletariat and bourgeois greater say in the governance of their own lives. The rebellion nearly failed but for the realization of many Protestant bourgeois that they stood to gain from a successful rebellion. While this led to an increase in supplies; it could not make up for a lack of leadership, which was in the end filled with mercenaries. With these combined factors, defeat slowly began to turn into victory and the aristocracy began to be pushed back and for the next two years fought an indecisive but bloody conflict, until suffering a crushing defeat at the hands of the rebels at the Battle of Nuremberg. With this victory, the rebels looked more and more like a winning force and the nobles ended the war by accepting the demands of the rebels before they could press the advantage.
Though victory was taken by the rebels in the First Great Peasants War it was not without its failures. Many nobles were slow to implement the rights and many nobles didn't implement them at all, keeping large swathes of the victorious population in the same chains that they had thought themselves free of. This, combined with another 50 years of slowly regression back into the very state they had fought to free themselves of lead to the Second Great Peasants war. Lasting from 1580 to 1622 this war was actually a series of a dozen or more successful rebellions and uprisings that saw the establishment of dozens of Republics which replaced several princes in the HRE. While many of republics were only as large as the city or town that was seized in an uprising, some were much larger and usually served to protect these smaller ones. The wars themselves all usually shared the same pattern of a quick, violent, and blood uprisings which seized control of a city before a series of smaller pitched battles and sieges took place.
Though the Great Peasant wars were successful in of themselves, the republics that they had created would not last long thanks to the unifying factor if had for the Nobility of the Holy Roman Empire. Long divided by petty squabbles, the great houses of Germany, Bohemia, Northern Italy and the Low Counties brought together their forces and economic strength to strangle these republics in the cradle. By 1652 the republics were all nearing their last breaths, however it had become clear to all sides that any attempt to take them would be an extremely bloody affair. This was all avoided thanks to the diplomatic skill and surprising openness to reform of the then Emperor Ferdinand III, who entered into negotiations with the remaining republics. These negotiations culminated in 1654's The Great Rights, also called Ferdinands Reforms. These reforms guaranteed the Proletariat and Bourgeoise many of the rights they had been fighting for and more in return for a peaceful resumption of noble rule in the territories held by the Republics. In Germany the peasants and bourgeois came to call the next 120 years the Golden Age. Victory had been seized and their rights secured, peace was achieved in much of Germany between the classes.
This great peace between the nobility and peasants lasted a long 100 years until Maria Theresa's eldest son took the throne as Emperor Joseph II. Wanting to develop the Hapsburgs eastern personal holdings, he introduced crushing taxes that placed a particularly large burden on the middle and lower classes of the Empire. Following this insult up in quick succession with injury, Emperor Joseph restricted religious freedoms and other freedoms and other rights enshrined in the Great Rights. Before the incensed peasantry and bourgeoisie could organise a formal political and peaceful response to the Emperor's actions, it had become apparent that many of the Emperor's taxes and reforms were not as effective with the Great Rights still in place. This led to his total revocation of the Great Rights and worst of all, the re-introduction of Serfdom. The reaction to this however was immediate and violent, the Peasantry and Bourgeoisie had grown used to their rights and were not about to stand aside and allow this to happen. This hatred of the Emperor soon began to instead manifest as a complete hatred of aristocracy and the noble class itself, until that point a fringe viewpoint. Many nobles of both lower and high standing were killed in the first weeks and months of the revolution, some being spared of this fate after they abdicated their roles out of disgust for the Emperors overreach and threw their support behind the revolution.
German Revolutionary Wars, as they were to become known, began in 1778. The Revolution itself started with the first uprisings of 1778 and concluded with the forced abdication of Joseph II by his brother Leopold II after a coup in Vienna, the abolition of Joseph's "reforms" and Declaration of the United States of Germany in 1780. After consolidating his position in the Habsburg realms however, the Emperor and his supporters across the Empire began the the Revolutionary Wars between the Newborn Germany and the HRE, with other European Nations attempting to gain from the revolution. It was names like the Prince of Schwarzenberg, Marshal Blücher, Major-General Carl von Clausewitz and the Emperor's brother himself, Archduke Carl the Duke of Teschen, who earned their reputations on the battlefield. Learning much from each defeat and victory; more often than not defeat. By 1788, however the wars had largely subsided and the once liquid borders of the German Republic had solidified, protected by a now experienced Army and Navy.
Outside of the minor skirmishes following 1788, the Holy Roman Empire, broken and defeated by mere peasants and merchants, used the respite to not just recover her strength but to solidify her position in the greater Habsburg realm. With only Austria and Switzerland remaining as territories of the Holy Roman Empire, rather than abolish the title, Emperor Leopold II used this great opportunity to reform the Empire and expand its reach. No longer just a stand in for a Germanic Empire, the Holy Roman Empire would instead reform itself into a federation with the Emperor at its head and all parts equal. In the Habsburg Italian holdings, the Emperor's younger brother Ferdinand would take up office as the Grand Duke of Lombardy. In the Hungarian holdings, another brother Archduke Joseph would become the Palatine of Hungary. The Grand Duchy of Schwize would continue as it had for the last 600 years with a cadet branch of the Habsburgs ruling. The Kingdom of Bohemia would have another of the Emperor's brothers, Archduke Anton Victor as its Palatine. The Grand Duchy of Croatia would have Grand Duke John, another of the Emperor's Younger brothers as its Grand Duke. Finally, the Duchy of Transylvania would have the exiled Catholic branch of the Hohenzollern Dynasty, Anton Aloys, Prince of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen at its helm. The Holy Roman Empire itself would formally annex these territories as core territories; transforming this once-confederation of German principalities into a true multi-national Empire.
After completing this great reform of the Empire, the problem of succession had to be addressed. While ruled by the Habsburgs with only a single interruption since 1440, the Emperor was still technically elected by the Electors of the Empire, who were either dead or in-exile in courts across Europe with no tangible power. Using this opportunity to create a loyal powerbase inside the nobility needed to pass further reforms down the line, the Emperor granted the right of elector to all those exiled nobles who resided inside the Holy Roman Empire from the rank of count and above. While merely a symbolic act given they had no real power, it would bring exiles from across the courts of Europe back to Vienna, Budapest, Milan and Zagreb, where they would serve the Emperor loyally.
After spending the last 20 years reforming the Empire to ensure its stability and long-term survival, Emperor Leopold II died in his sleep at the age of 62 in 1810. He would be long remembered as the saviour of the Empire and liberator of the Empire's minorities. Now taking up the reigns was Francis II, at the age of 42, he had spent the last 20 years watching his father's every move, learning the mistakes of generations past and taking actions in his father's name towards the end of his reign as he suffered bouts of illness. Now he was to take the full authority of Emperor, crowned in Rome by the Pope for the first time since Charles V many centuries ago and elected with an overwhelming majority of the electors support. Now two years into his reign, Francis II prepares for the Holy Roman Empire to face Europe as a fully fledged Great Power once more. With the Romans to the East disputing his legitimacy and Republicans to the North remaining a lingering threat to all Monarchs, Francis has quite a job ahead of him.
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by Tracian Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:08 am
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:Sorry Banzai, but your reservation expired over 12 hours ago. If Oscal's reservation also expires then I will review your app with priority and accept it.
If Osc's reservation doesn't expire, then I will reserve Korea.Reservation
Nation Name: Empire of Chosen
Territory: Everything currently reserved by Korea but including the Philippines and Borneo.
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by TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:24 am
Tracian Empire wrote:TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
If Osc's reservation doesn't expire, then I will reserve Korea.Reservation
Nation Name: Empire of Chosen
Territory: Everything currently reserved by Korea but including the Philippines and Borneo.
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If Columbia's reservation also expires, which will happen later today, sure
by Tracian Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:34 am
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:If Columbia's reservation also expires, which will happen later today, sure
If mine is expired, I am pretty sure his is expired, since reservations only last 48 hours and you posted the IC on the 19th. It has been 3 days now, and his reservation expired "over 12 hours ago". He didn't post an app to get the 24 more hours.
So either my reservation hasn't expired and I should get priority on Japan, or I should be able to reserve Korea.
by Tracian Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:37 am
Kenobot wrote:Full Nation Name : Sacrum Imperium Romanum (Holy Roman Empire)
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by TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:40 am
Tracian Empire wrote:TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
If mine is expired, I am pretty sure his is expired, since reservations only last 48 hours and you posted the IC on the 19th. It has been 3 days now, and his reservation expired "over 12 hours ago". He didn't post an app to get the 24 more hours.
So either my reservation hasn't expired and I should get priority on Japan, or I should be able to reserve Korea.
"The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations".
His reservation would have expired on the 21st of February at 23:01 EET, which was 13 hours and a half ago, that is true. However, he sent me a message telling me that he was busy, so I've granted him additional time to post his app today, if he does not, then his claim will be removed.
You didn't post your app, or post anything in the new thread at all, and you didn't tell me that you weren't able to post it, so your reservation expired and Oscal claimed an empty spot on the map.
A new round of reservations will expire tonight. I am open to granting people extra time if asked for and properly explained, but no more than a day or two, so soon enough there should be plenty of openings.
by Kenobot » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:41 am
Tracian Empire wrote:Kenobot wrote:Full Nation Name : Sacrum Imperium Romanum (Holy Roman Empire)
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Overall I love the app, a few points that should be addressed:
- Vienna and the other cities should be marked as centers of industrialization, it's a small semantic difference, but calling them centers of industry would give people a wrong impression especially since we've already had a few people missing the era we're in.
- Specifically about the same cities, I'd recommend sticking to Vienna, Prague, and Milan as such centers. Buda and Pest would most likely be less so, unless you've found a way to deal with the Hungarian magnates/landed aristocracy and their influence, which would be detrimental to the bourgeoisie in Buda/Pest.
- Any particular reason the Hungarian command is known as the Transylvanian command and not the Hungarian one? It's not an issue, I'm just curious
- The history generally looks alright - one point that will also be true for the German app however is that referring to the "proletariat" in the 17th century is doubly anachronistic. Firstly because most of those would have been peasants, and secondly since the term of proletariat itself wouldn't have been adopted yet, Marx isn't even born.
- Other than that, I'd just like for you to describe its political situation a little. It's a bit difficult to reconcile the concept that at once, the empire is "liberal", with the past emperor being the "liberator of the Empire's minorities", while also being most likely the center of European reactionary thought and filled with noble emigres. Other than the reorganization into a vague federal framework, I'm confused as to what rights were specifically granted to the minorities, seeing as their respective feudal regions are still led by Habsburgs. A description of what rights they have would then allow you to properly know which of the ethnic groups would be opposed to your rule, Italians and Hungarians most likely, going by historical precedent. A bit of information about the situation in each state would also be helpful - is the Hungarian diet recognized? The Hungarian nobility was pretty particular about it. Do the Habsburg rulers in those countries rule by themselves, or with noble councils?
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:
"The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations".
His reservation would have expired on the 21st of February at 23:01 EET, which was 13 hours and a half ago, that is true. However, he sent me a message telling me that he was busy, so I've granted him additional time to post his app today, if he does not, then his claim will be removed.
You didn't post your app, or post anything in the new thread at all, and you didn't tell me that you weren't able to post it, so your reservation expired and Oscal claimed an empty spot on the map.
A new round of reservations will expire tonight. I am open to granting people extra time if asked for and properly explained, but no more than a day or two, so soon enough there should be plenty of openings.
Maybe that policy should be more transparent since that hasn't been explicitly stated. Everyone is busy.
by Tracian Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:43 am
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:
"The OP board reserves the right to be subjective in regards to accepting and removing reservations".
His reservation would have expired on the 21st of February at 23:01 EET, which was 13 hours and a half ago, that is true. However, he sent me a message telling me that he was busy, so I've granted him additional time to post his app today, if he does not, then his claim will be removed.
You didn't post your app, or post anything in the new thread at all, and you didn't tell me that you weren't able to post it, so your reservation expired and Oscal claimed an empty spot on the map.
A new round of reservations will expire tonight. I am open to granting people extra time if asked for and properly explained, but no more than a day or two, so soon enough there should be plenty of openings.
Maybe that policy should be more transparent since that hasn't been explicitly stated. Everyone is busy.
by TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:52 am
Tracian Empire wrote:TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:
Maybe that policy should be more transparent since that hasn't been explicitly stated. Everyone is busy.
What hasn't been explicitly stated? I specifically kept pinging people over on the Discord channel from before the roleplay was even launched that we will keep the strict 48 hour deadline. Knowing that, some people have come to me and asked for extensions, which I've granted because the main purpose of this policy is to remove stragglers who hoard reservations for weeks without finishing their apps, something that has happened in past iterations. People asking for extensions expresses interest.
I couldn't have done much more. If old players who are in the Discord ignore announcements or have the server muted that's their decision, and as for newcomers, the 48 hour reservation deadline is very clearly stated in the app formats.
I'm sorry that you got caught into it, had I known that you were busy I would have granted you an extension also, but I assumed that you had lost interested and proceeded to remove you.
by Tracian Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:53 am
TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON wrote:Tracian Empire wrote:What hasn't been explicitly stated? I specifically kept pinging people over on the Discord channel from before the roleplay was even launched that we will keep the strict 48 hour deadline. Knowing that, some people have come to me and asked for extensions, which I've granted because the main purpose of this policy is to remove stragglers who hoard reservations for weeks without finishing their apps, something that has happened in past iterations. People asking for extensions expresses interest.
I couldn't have done much more. If old players who are in the Discord ignore announcements or have the server muted that's their decision, and as for newcomers, the 48 hour reservation deadline is very clearly stated in the app formats.
I'm sorry that you got caught into it, had I known that you were busy I would have granted you an extension also, but I assumed that you had lost interested and proceeded to remove you.
Shouldn't the extension be more transparent to avoid confusion? So a person knows what is still reserved and what isn't?
by Tracian Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:21 am
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by Tracian Empire » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:49 am
Revlona wrote:Full Nation Name : United States of Germany, Vereinigte Staaten von Deutschland, Germany, The German Republic
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by Alaska Hawaii and the Aleutes » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:46 am
Tracian Empire wrote:I'm sorry, but as it is marked on the map, in the reservations list, and in the apps that was posted, all the territories that you are trying to app for belong to either Meiguo or the Wei.
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by Remnants of Exilvania » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:47 pm
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:Alright. All the mandatory parts of my application are up except for a history... I'll get to that eventually.
by Lunalus » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:19 am
by Tracian Empire » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:16 am
Lunalus wrote:Reservation
Nation Name:Vijayanagar Confederation
Territory:Southern India
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by Elysian Kentarchy » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:21 am
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