What has Israel ever done for us?

[East Blepia]

This is a legitimate inquiry. Virtually the whole body of our (American) foreign policy in the Middle East, i.e. towards over one billion Muslims, is based on the interests of Israel. We have even recently recognized Moroccan sovereignty over the Western Sahara, the same issue over which they were made to leave the African Union, in exchange for their recognition of Israel. All of the Iran nonsense over the past years would not have been a blip on our radar were it not for our ties and action on behalf of Israel. We would not need to be in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Syria, if it were not for the flaming resentment these Islamic extremists hold for us due to our incessant support for Israel.

Therefore why should an American politician, whose first interest in foreign policy was America, and not some other goal or allegiance, wish to remain so aligned to Israel as we are?

[Insaanistan]

Israel has... screwed with anything Iranian... and... attacked US ships... violated UN resolutions... wait...

[Hauva]

It's name's not Israel, but rather the Zionist entity.

[Greater Cesnica]

Nothing good. Also, oh boy, this thread is gonna be FUN.

[Celestial Wave]

*Grabs popcorn*
Whelp, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'll be in my underground bunker watching this sh*tshow.

[Townsvalley]

Even middle eastern people don't want America you can get that idea fairly easily

[Centrallonia]

Israel and Iran might not be getting along now but both Israel and Iran use to have good diplomatic ties before the monarchy was toppled in the 1979 revolution.

[East Blepia]

I am rather disappointed; it seems so far that we are all in agreement. At least the people of NSG are enlightened.

[Greater Cesnica]

*Grabs popcorn*
Whelp, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'll be in my underground bunker watching this sh*tshow.

[Bogi Smerti]

*Grabs popcorn*
Whelp, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'll be in my underground bunker watching this sh*tshow.

Yeah, I'll sit back, relax, and watch this thread get locked within a week because a bunch of anti-semites hijacked it.

[Silvedania]

*Grabs popcorn*
Whelp, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'll be in my underground bunker watching this sh*tshow.

I’ll be there too. In mine, I mean.

[Punished UMN]

Israel and Iran might not be getting along now but both Israel and Iran use to have good diplomatic ties before the monarchy was toppled in the 1979 revolution.

Have you considered how these two events might be related?

[East Blepia]

Israel and Iran might not be getting along now but both Israel and Iran use to have good diplomatic ties before the monarchy was toppled in the 1979 revolution.

Yes, because it was imposed as part of the 1953 coup.

[Punished UMN]

It's name's not Israel, but rather the Zionist entity.

One of the biggest mistakes of the Anti-Zionist movement was to give credence to the Zionist regime's claims to be the sole legitimate representative of Jewish people, this gave the Zionist regime a lot more political clout internationally as well as giving them coercive power over (especially Arab) Jews who were now outcasts in their communities despite having no affiliation with the Zionist movement and being broadly supportive of the Arab cause. Emphasis should have been given in propaganda to the Zionist movements attempt to usurp and hold Jewishness hostage to the settler regime.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Israel helps the United States manage its influence over the Middle East, and giving them weapons is good for the military-industrial complex

Even middle eastern people don't want America you can get that idea fairly easily

Of course not, but you see we reeeeally want to repeatedly "liberate" them.

[Risottia]

This is a legitimate inquiry. Virtually the whole body of our (American) foreign policy in the Middle East, i.e. towards over one billion Muslims, is based on the interests of Israel. We have even recently recognized Moroccan sovereignty over the Western Sahara, the same issue over which they were made to leave the African Union, in exchange for their recognition of Israel. All of the Iran nonsense over the past years would not have been a blip on our radar were it not for our ties and action on behalf of Israel. We would not need to be in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Syria, if it were not for the flaming resentment these Islamic extremists hold for us due to our incessant support for Israel.

Therefore why should an American politician, whose first interest in foreign policy was America, and not some other goal or allegiance, wish to remain so aligned to Israel as we are?

Actually, you (Americans) are in Afghanistan because you had the great idea of creating militant Islamic fundies back in the '80s.
As for Syria, you're there because Turkey and Saudi Arabia want you there.

[East Blepia]

Israel helps the United States manage its influence over the Middle East, and giving them weapons is good for the military-industrial complex

We have plenty of allies in the Middle East already.

* We have bases in Syria (via our alliance with some of the warring factions there)

* We are still militarily present in Iraq and Afghanistan

* We are allied to, and have bases in Turkey

* We have a large presence in Kuwait

* We have a naval base in Bahrain

* We have assorted presences in several other Middle Eastern states

There are more countries in the middle east in which American forces are present than not.

Giving military aid to Israel, and thus causing the production of weapons, is beneficial to the military industrial complex, it is true. But we must consider that this money could be used for much more constructive purposes, or used to furnish our $20 trillion in debt.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It's a place we park our planes for our middle east wars. Think of it as like one giant air force base.

[Washington Resistance Army]

This is a legitimate inquiry. Virtually the whole body of our (American) foreign policy in the Middle East, i.e. towards over one billion Muslims, is based on the interests of Israel. We have even recently recognized Moroccan sovereignty over the Western Sahara, the same issue over which they were made to leave the African Union, in exchange for their recognition of Israel. All of the Iran nonsense over the past years would not have been a blip on our radar were it not for our ties and action on behalf of Israel. We would not need to be in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Syria, if it were not for the flaming resentment these Islamic extremists hold for us due to our incessant support for Israel.

Therefore why should an American politician, whose first interest in foreign policy was America, and not some other goal or allegiance, wish to remain so aligned to Israel as we are?

Actually, you (Americans) are in Afghanistan because you had the great idea of creating militant Islamic fundies back in the '80s.
As for Syria, you're there because Turkey and Saudi Arabia want you there.

What kind of historical revisionism is this lol. If anyone created militant Islamic fundies it was al-Otaybi when he took over Mecca. While his revolt failed it normalized hardline fundamentalism because the monarchy didn't want to fight them and found it easier to give them power.

[Insaanistan]

This is a legitimate inquiry. Virtually the whole body of our (American) foreign policy in the Middle East, i.e. towards over one billion Muslims, is based on the interests of Israel. We have even recently recognized Moroccan sovereignty over the Western Sahara, the same issue over which they were made to leave the African Union, in exchange for their recognition of Israel. All of the Iran nonsense over the past years would not have been a blip on our radar were it not for our ties and action on behalf of Israel. We would not need to be in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Syria, if it were not for the flaming resentment these Islamic extremists hold for us due to our incessant support for Israel.

Therefore why should an American politician, whose first interest in foreign policy was America, and not some other goal or allegiance, wish to remain so aligned to Israel as we are?

Actually, you (Americans) are in Afghanistan because you had the great idea of creating militant Islamic fundies back in the '80s.
As for Syria, you're there because Turkey and Saudi Arabia want you there.

Northern Alliance: Hi, America! We’re pro-democracy, pro-women’s rights, pro-modernization Muslims!
America: Hm... nah!
Taliban: I like to blow up or execute anyone who doesn’t agree Sunni straight Muslim men are superior to all.
America: Cool, here’s some money and guns.

[Corindia]

they built the aqueducts

[The Snazzylands]

1. They're a middle eastern country that doesn't hate us, so we can use them to have some influence in the region.
2. We can sell them a ton of weapons and be pretty sure they won't go to terrorists this time.
3.

It's a place we park our planes for our middle east wars. Think of it as like one giant air force base.

[East Blepia]

Actually, you (Americans) are in Afghanistan because you had the great idea of creating militant Islamic fundies back in the '80s.
As for Syria, you're there because Turkey and Saudi Arabia want you there.

Yes, we funded the Afghan mujahideen in the 80s, but that was only another Cold War proxy conflict. Our modern involvement in Afghanistan is due to the 9/11 attacks, which would not have happened were it not for our support for Israel.

The Turkish government never found the Syrian government to be a nuisance as I am aware. Their first as well as main offensives have been against the SDF - the fighting against Syria proper has only began within the past year both to prevent the fall of Idlib as well as due to increased Syrian co-operation with the SDF i.e. during and after Operation Peace Spring.

[Celestial Wave]

*Grabs popcorn*
Whelp, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'll be in my underground bunker watching this sh*tshow.

I’ll be there too. In mine, I mean.

social bunker disancing intensifies

[Dowunda]

Actually, you (Americans) are in Afghanistan because you had the great idea of creating militant Islamic fundies back in the '80s.
As for Syria, you're there because Turkey and Saudi Arabia want you there.

Northern Alliance: Hi, America! We’re pro-democracy, pro-women’s rights, pro-modernization Muslims!
America: Hm... nah!
Taliban: I like to blow up or execute anyone who doesn’t agree Sunni straight Muslim men are superior to all.
America: Cool, here’s some money and guns.

Also Taliban: We hate the Soviets too. So we want to help you and we will totally not cause the deaths of thousands and destroy two buildings.