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What are yalls thoughts on Farms

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What are your thoughts on agriculture?

Poll runs till Fri May 28, 2021 10:11 am

It is very important
157
95%
It is of little use
3
2%
Other: anything else
6
4%
 
Total votes : 166

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Lapis Lazului
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What are yalls thoughts on Farms

Postby Lapis Lazului » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:11 am

I live and work on a farm and I am starting to feel like some of you people of the world care none for good food anymore. All I see is people eating are a bunch of foods with chemicals on them that are not okay for you to keep eating so I want to know yalls thoughts on Farming and good agriculture.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:13 am

I practice small scale agriculture at home and am probably going to expand this year so naturally I have a favorable opinion.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:16 am

My grandad farmed. Mainly Apple and Walnut......
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Postby Shin-Mutsu » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:17 am

According to Park Hyeja, it is important to expand emphasis on both agriculture and industry simultaneously. Only then can a nation become self-reliant and self-strengthened.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:18 am

I like eating. So yes I’m pro agriculture
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:18 am

The OP is mediocre and needs expanding.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:20 am

Agriculture is still needed but lets face it, fewer people know how to farm anymore or can even be bothered with it if they live in a well off country with an advanced society/economy. Most farms are owned by giant corporations and are mechanized to the most extent possible and are very efficiently run for mass production out of necessity.

There is way more product demanded than any one person can produce for other people. The chemicals/preservatives and etc. are mainly to ensure food doesn't rot/spoil as fast or can otherwise sell better. It sucks, but people are incentivized to do whatever it takes to get the results they want. Even if some consequences might be negative sometimes.
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Postby Lapis Lazului » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:21 am

I find it interesting that more then a few people share my views. I am glad.
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Postby Sundiata » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:25 am

I don't like it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:25 am

Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.


What do you plan on eating if farms go away lol, other pople?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:27 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.


What do you plan on eating if farms go away lol, other pople?


By then we will have Replicators....right? There is always soylent green.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:28 am

Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.

You...don't...like...farms. Right. So...alternatives? What are they?
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:29 am

Of course agriculture is necessary. It's been one of the cornerstones of society for the past ten millenia.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:30 am

I like farms, particularly fruit farms, nothing like taking fresh fruit off a tree or bush
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:31 am

Ethel mermania wrote:I like farms, particularly fruit farms, nothing like taking fresh fruit off a tree or bush


This^^^

We have a couple trees and bushes that produce and it's great to just go grab an apple or something.
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Postby Lillorainen » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:31 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.


What do you plan on eating if farms go away lol, other pople?

One can easily buy food from the supermarket! Never heard of that?
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Postby Shin-Mutsu » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:33 am

Lillorainen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What do you plan on eating if farms go away lol, other pople?

One can easily buy food from the supermarket! Never heard of that?


I wonder where the food from supermarkets comes from.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:33 am

Lillorainen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What do you plan on eating if farms go away lol, other pople?

One can easily buy food from the supermarket! Never heard of that?

...I'm hoping this is a joke.
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But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:34 am

Shin-Mutsu wrote:
Lillorainen wrote:One can easily buy food from the supermarket! Never heard of that?


I wonder where the food from supermarkets comes from.

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Postby Lillorainen » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:34 am

Shin-Mutsu wrote:
Lillorainen wrote:One can easily buy food from the supermarket! Never heard of that?


I wonder where the food from supermarkets comes from.

You're getting dangerously close to the point.
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Postby Shin-Mutsu » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:36 am

Lillorainen wrote:
Shin-Mutsu wrote:
I wonder where the food from supermarkets comes from.

You're getting dangerously close to the point.


It seems my sarcasm detector was switched off, my bad.
But yes, farming is important. Every young person should have some farming experience, which is why they should be sent to the fields to practice weeding, plowing, hoeing, harvesting, and planting.
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Great Shin-Mutsu Empire
Corporatism, class segregation, and complete absence of social welfare, ruled by a nearly psychopathic coffee drinking Oomiya twin

May your great reign last
A thousand years
And then ten thousand more
Oomiya Sakura has an older sister, and her name is Ito Sayuri.
She's not interested in tea parties or playing nice.
For every bad reply, Her Imperial Majesty Eternal Empress of the Realm Ito (Oomiya) Sayuri will sacrifice 1,000 class-E3 citizens. Sacrificed so far: 12,000

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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:36 am

My (very late) grandparents had a tobacco farm in Missouri. Whenever I'm in KC, I usually make the hour drive up to the old family tobacco farm, and it's beautiful. Needless to say, I love farms, and when I have some more money, I'd love to buy some land in the Midwest to have a small-scale farm.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:36 am

Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.

You’re free to move to the Far North then.
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Postby Punished UMN » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:37 am

Agriculture is the most important thing.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:38 am

Are you including things like hydroponic and rooftop farms?
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