American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[Silvedania]

When terrorists from 8chan and Qanon almost had the most deadly wepons in all humanities history.

Very scary.

[Drew Durrnil]

FFS guys ignore GMS, he is NOT worth it.

Surprised that he's not a DOS

[Borderlands of Rojava]

When terrorists from 8chan and Qanon almost had the most deadly wepons in all humanities history.

Very scary.

We were in darker straits that day than I even realized.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Yeah, I think this deserves a repost in this brand new thread:

When terrorists from 8chan and Qanon almost had the most deadly wepons in all humanities history.

There's probably security measures to stop such boneheads from using it, though I agree, that shouldn't have happened.

[Comerciante]

FFS guys ignore GMS, he is NOT worth it.

Surprised that he's not a DOS

For all the inane nature of his arguments, he hasn't as far as I can tell done anything worthy of DOS.

Trying to push his opinion as fact is not against the rules.

[Silvedania]

Very scary.

We were in darker straits that day than I even realized.

Well, we should be glad that nothing ended up happening.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

When terrorists from 8chan and Qanon almost had the most deadly wepons in all humanities history.

There's probably security measures to stop such boneheads from using it, though I agree, that shouldn't have happened.

This is America. Knowing our luck they'd successfully manage to nuke Canada.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

I'm aware of the consequences. But, honestly, they chose to be in Congress to begin with and they gave themselves the duty to defend the Constitution. That's what they should do now. I would personally support every Republican who votes to convict.

The GOP is all about Loyalty to Party over Country, which has since shifted to "personal loyalty to Dear Leader Trump uber alles".

That's a clumsy Nazi reference you did. Got your Kim reference all tangled up in it ...

17 Republicans for Conviction would be a strong signal to the rest of the party, and most of them would flip. But even without it, there will some day come a point where most Republican's see enough numbers on the anti-Trump side that they feel safe joining it. It's herd behaviour, common in every political party, but less recognizable when the "leader" of the old herd never was much good at leading and has now disappeard down a hole. So who else do they have to follow? Who could lead them off the path that ex-leader Trump pointed out for them?

It has to be McConnell ... except that he's showing signs of being sick to the horns of the whole game, and wanting to quit.

Even without a leader, a herd has a dynamic and it finds its way ... eventually. It really won't be long, a month or two, before "those members over there" who seem to know where to go next attract enough brave individuals that the followers of the old herd recognize that the anti-Trumpists are now the herd.

Humans aren't strictly herd animals, but we're more that way when lost and confused. When the herd is most of them, the others will regret the day they followed too far behind General "I like people who weren't captured" Trump.

[Silvedania]

There's probably security measures to stop such boneheads from using it, though I agree, that shouldn't have happened.

This is America. Knowing our luck they'd successfully manage to nuke Canada.

Not Canada, but probably China or Mexico.

[The Reformed American Republic]

There's probably security measures to stop such boneheads from using it, though I agree, that shouldn't have happened.

This is America. Knowing our luck they'd successfully manage to nuke Canada.

Why Canada? These people would probably try to nuke China as some of them actually believe that the Chinese released the virus intentionally to undermine President Trump.

I don't like or trust China due to its government, but the conspiracy theories are something else.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

This is America. Knowing our luck they'd successfully manage to nuke Canada.

Why Canada? These people would probably try to nuke China as some of them actually believe that the Chinese released the virus intentionally to undermine President Trump.

I don't like or trust China due to its government, but the conspiracy theories are something else.

You don't remember Trump's anti Canada rhetoric? Security threat to the north and all.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Why Canada? These people would probably try to nuke China as some of them actually believe that the Chinese released the virus intentionally to undermine President Trump.

I don't like or trust China due to its government, but the conspiracy theories are something else.

You don't remember Trump's anti Canada rhetoric? Security threat to the north and all.

To me, that was nowhere near as extreme as the anti-China rhetoric.

[Rusozak]

When terrorists from 8chan and Qanon almost had the most deadly wepons in all humanities history.

There's probably security measures to stop such boneheads from using it, though I agree, that shouldn't have happened.

Not like they could have used it. But I wouldn't be surprised if they got it and tried to sell it to the Russians to "prove how patriotic they are." Though I imagine such an important device has tracking technology and definitely something that would provoke a full force response from intelligence agencies.

[New Visayan Islands]

FFS guys ignore GMS, he is NOT worth it.

Damn you have strong opinions about people throwing an egg about

I didn't ask for your opinion.

hehehehehehehehehe. Btw football is better. And that's actual football, not eggball.

Unfortunately, many people here are keyboard warriors and won't go away until the other person leaves

TBH i'm mainly here to laugh at americans who think that a completely fair election was stolen because of the words of an orange muppet, i'm not a keyboard warrior, I just find idiotic people highly amusing.

Good day!

I see you're new to the forums. What we're looking at right here can easily be taken for trolling, which is a violation of the Rules. I suggest you take a moment to read and review them for an enjoyable stay.

Thanks!
NVI

[Greater Miami Shores]

FFS guys ignore GMS, he is NOT worth it.

Surprised that he's not a DOS

Yeah ignore GMS for strongly disagreeing with you guys on Republican President Trump, Cuba and all issues. We are on NS to share, discuss and argue our similar and different views on all issues, with respect towards each other. This respect is given it is not earned. This respect is called Democracy. I for one respect all persons rights to their views on all issues and their rights to post them, while I strongly disagree with them. This is why I have a clean record on NS for over 10 years on NS, of no baiting, no trolling, no flaming and no using foul language against any person on and off NS. I am very proud of it, but I am not the only one on NS. I don't place any persons on ignore for any reasons. I am very proud of it. GMS.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

I don't think they'd be censured. Maybe you mean "ostracized"?

Imo the risk of being primary'd is exaggerated. The Tea people did it to a bunch of Republicans in 2010, but when it worked it was only because the incumbent Republican had grown complacent and had spent too much time in Washington DC, leaving fertile ground for a grassroots (or astroturfed; TEA had a lot of dark money) candidate to go in hard from a short run-up and take the primary off them. TEA also targeted well, something I doubt Trump is capable of.

Any Republican now probably knows if they're a primary target, and the party will give them whatever help they need (including earmarks) to prepare for the next primary. The element of surprise which worked for TEA in 2010 is quite lacking for Trump and he could blow a lot of Other People's Money for nothing at all.

Another thing is that "party loyalty" is almost non-existent for a candidate boosted into office by an individual or brand-new party. Once elected they realize it's a choice between one term trying to speak for the individual/party that helped them get elected, or going their own way and trying their best to get re-elected without help. Even if Trump does unseat some Republicans, his terrible record at picking winners and personal record of disloyalty makes it unlikely someone he helped into office will pay much attention to what he wants.

In short, some but not all R Senators whose terms end in 2023 or 2025 do have to look out for Trumpist challengers, but they know that already and have plenty of time to please the Republican voters of their state. And even if they do lose their primary, a Trumpist doesn't necessarily win their State. And even then, a Trumpist is unlikely to stay loyal to his pussy-grabbing values or his puerile principles. In short, the risk of primary challenges in the Senate is rather minimal.

In the House, there could be some trouble for Republicans who aren't wary. And, maybe some Democrats! With party registration being quite a weak indicator of party loyalty, political nobodies funded by Trump could primary Democrats too. They should all be wary!

many of them have already been censured in the house

Well the only one I can find is David Schweikert (2020)

literally every state gop apart from like utah and maybe alaska considering how erratic that state is politically is full of trump cultists and will remove anti-trump candidates in the primaries

What happens in the state legislatures is just noise as far as I'm concerned. Trump may take a passing interest, and delegate someone to spend OPM there, but he's not known for being a smart hirer and (I say again) does not invoke personal loyalty in anyone. He could be giving money to a Democrat to help that party in the general, for all the difference his blundering will make at the state level.

I doubt he even knows about the Tea party sabotage of primaries in 2010 (they had an effect in 2012 too, btw) so he'll ignore the soft targets in the House, and attack particular Senators regardless of how vulnerable they are in the primaries.

I seriously don't know what Republicans are worrying about. With hardly the best lineup of their history, Democrats nearly beat him in a coat-tails election (Obama had some coat-tails, but he wasn't Reagan), and they beat up his party at the first mid-term, then beat him and his party despite incumbency ... why are Republicans still cowering in fear of this political weakling?

even in Massachusetts the state gop censured the governor for being anti trump

I'm not sure what you mean.

[Istoreya]

Surprised that he's not a DOS

Yeah ignore GMS for strongly disagreeing with you guys on Republican President Trump, Cuba and all issues. I for one respect all persons rights to their views on all issues and their rights to post them, while I strongly disagree with them. This is why I have a clean record on NS of no baiting, no trolling, no flaming and no using foul language against any person on and off NS. I am very proud of it, but I am not the only one on NS. I don't place any persons on ignore for any reasons. I am very proud of it. GMS.

I'm sorry, I really can't take you seriously when you post stuff like this about how proud you are about never doing anything against the moderation rules of the site but can't understand why Trump got banned from Twitter for failing to follow the moderation rules of that site.

[San Lumen]

Surprised that he's not a DOS

Yeah ignore GMS for strongly disagreeing with you guys on Republican President Trump, Cuba and all issues. I for one respect all persons rights to their views on all issues and their rights to post them, while I strongly disagree with them. This is why I have a clean record on NS of no baiting, no trolling, no flaming and no using foul language against any person on and off NS. I am very proud of it, but I am not the only one on NS. I don't place any persons on ignore for any reasons. I am very proud of it. GMS.

You have no argument whatsoever other than the same canned answers over and over again and refuse to acknowledge anything that contradicts the reality you've constructed and dismiss it as opinions. You dont know the difference between fact and opinion.

You even said if Trump said the Earth was flat you'd accept it as fact.

[Vassenor]

The GOP is all about Loyalty to Party over Country, which has since shifted to "personal loyalty to Dear Leader Trump uber alles".

That's a clumsy Nazi reference you did. Got your Kim reference all tangled up in it ...

17 Republicans for Conviction would be a strong signal to the rest of the party, and most of them would flip. But even without it, there will some day come a point where most Republican's see enough numbers on the anti-Trump side that they feel safe joining it. It's herd behaviour, common in every political party, but less recognizable when the "leader" of the old herd never was much good at leading and has now disappeard down a hole. So who else do they have to follow? Who could lead them off the path that ex-leader Trump pointed out for them?

It has to be McConnell ... except that he's showing signs of being sick to the horns of the whole game, and wanting to quit.

Even without a leader, a herd has a dynamic and it finds its way ... eventually. It really won't be long, a month or two, before "those members over there" who seem to know where to go next attract enough brave individuals that the followers of the old herd recognize that the anti-Trumpists are now the herd.

Humans aren't strictly herd animals, but we're more that way when lost and confused. When the herd is most of them, the others will regret the day they followed too far behind General "I like people who weren't captured" Trump.

I didn't know the Nazis wrote that version of the German national anthem.

[Fartsniffage]

That's a clumsy Nazi reference you did. Got your Kim reference all tangled up in it ...

17 Republicans for Conviction would be a strong signal to the rest of the party, and most of them would flip. But even without it, there will some day come a point where most Republican's see enough numbers on the anti-Trump side that they feel safe joining it. It's herd behaviour, common in every political party, but less recognizable when the "leader" of the old herd never was much good at leading and has now disappeard down a hole. So who else do they have to follow? Who could lead them off the path that ex-leader Trump pointed out for them?

It has to be McConnell ... except that he's showing signs of being sick to the horns of the whole game, and wanting to quit.

Even without a leader, a herd has a dynamic and it finds its way ... eventually. It really won't be long, a month or two, before "those members over there" who seem to know where to go next attract enough brave individuals that the followers of the old herd recognize that the anti-Trumpists are now the herd.

Humans aren't strictly herd animals, but we're more that way when lost and confused. When the herd is most of them, the others will regret the day they followed too far behind General "I like people who weren't captured" Trump.

I didn't know the Nazis wrote that version of the German national anthem.

The fist 2 stanzas were removed after World War 2, including the opening line, because they were very much associated with the Nazis.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I didn't know the Nazis wrote that version of the German national anthem.

The fist 2 stanzas were removed after World War 2, including the opening line, because they were very much associated with the Nazis.

Um they still exist. They're just not officially part of the national hymn of the BRD. Also I doubt you could find much to object to in the second stanza and it's celebration of German wine and German song and German drinking.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Yeah ignore GMS for strongly disagreeing with you guys on Republican President Trump, Cuba and all issues. I for one respect all persons rights to their views on all issues and their rights to post them, while I strongly disagree with them. This is why I have a clean record on NS of no baiting, no trolling, no flaming and no using foul language against any person on and off NS. I am very proud of it, but I am not the only one on NS. I don't place any persons on ignore for any reasons. I am very proud of it. GMS.

You have no argument whatsoever other than the same canned answers over and over again and refuse to acknowledge anything that contradicts the reality you've constructed and dismiss it as opinions. You dont know the difference between fact and opinion.

You even said if Trump said the Earth was flat you'd accept it as fact.

I was being sarcastic, lol All of you dismiss anything I say, post or link too anyway. All of you dismiss anything any of us Trump supporters say, post or link too anyway. It works both ways not just one way. We strongly disagree on these related issues. I have no problems with anti Trump Persons anti Trump views. I accept them while strongly disagreeing with them.

GMS.

[Dresderstan]

Yeah ignore GMS for strongly disagreeing with you guys on Republican President Trump, Cuba and all issues. I for one respect all persons rights to their views on all issues and their rights to post them, while I strongly disagree with them. This is why I have a clean record on NS of no baiting, no trolling, no flaming and no using foul language against any person on and off NS. I am very proud of it, but I am not the only one on NS. I don't place any persons on ignore for any reasons. I am very proud of it. GMS.

I'm sorry, I really can't take you seriously when you post stuff like this about how proud you are about never doing anything against the moderation rules of the site but can't understand why Trump got banned from Twitter for failing to follow the moderation rules of that site.

Then fucking ignore him damnit, put him on your fucking foes list and ignore him. This back and forth arguing with him does nothing.

[Fartsniffage]

The fist 2 stanzas were removed after World War 2, including the opening line, because they were very much associated with the Nazis.

Um they still exist. They're just not officially part of the national hymn of the BRD. Also I doubt you could find much to object to in the second stanza and it's celebration of German wine and German song and German drinking.

It was the German women bit that upset people. After the whole Aryan purity of blood thing...

[Istoreya]

You have no argument whatsoever other than the same canned answers over and over again and refuse to acknowledge anything that contradicts the reality you've constructed and dismiss it as opinions. You dont know the difference between fact and opinion.

You even said if Trump said the Earth was flat you'd accept it as fact.

I was being sarcastic, lol All of dismiss anything I say, post or link too anyway. All of you dismiss anything any of us Trump supporters say, post or too anyway. It works both ways not just one way. We strongly disagree on these related issues. I have no problems with anti Trump Persons anti Trump views. I accept them while strongly disagreeing with them.

Okay, next time if you're saying something sarcastic, you should REALLY point that out, because you seriously went on for like 2 pages worth of posts about how you'd believe Trump if he said the sky is orange and you gave no indication you were joking. Does it make a little more sense as to why you come off as a crazy when you say things like that and appear to be serious?