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by Tinhampton » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:47 am
by Greater Cesnica » Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:08 am
Tinhampton wrote:Draft #2 is now up for your (presumably imminent =p) perusal.
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by Hexxon » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:33 am
The nation of Hexxon was able to tolerate the misguided passage of the Death Penalty Ban. However, this proposal goes much too far. As if the Death Penalty Ban wasn't stepping on toes already, this proposal will only crush our toes, so to speak. Furthermore the nations of the World Assembly must be allowed to apply the death penalty against convicted war criminals, lest we allow the possibility of those monsters escaping detention facilities to commit further crimes. Hopefully our colleagues will recognize the negative consequences of this proposal, and will join us in voting against it.
by Kenmoria » Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:56 am
by Straona » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:34 pm
Greater Cesnica wrote:Honeydewistania wrote:No.Picairn wrote:I concur. Brutal dictators and genocidal megalomaniacs should be executed.Tinfect wrote:OOC:
Any society which chooses to protect the perpetrators of genocide and the slaughterers of civilians is a society that has chosen the side of them. This ban is ludicrous and unacceptable.
What's ludicrous and unacceptable is the disregard for the fact that innocents can and will be executed. Even military tribunals, even international criminal courts, even the most impartial, well-staffed trials can perform a miscarriage of justice.
by Scherzinger » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:38 pm
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by The Neolithic German Empire » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:51 pm
Greater Cesnica wrote:Picairn wrote:Evidence for your claims? Dictators, generals, and other perpretrators of war crimes aren't some random dudes to be so easily mistaken for innocents.
When it comes to the 'other perpetrators', miscarriages of justice can occur more commonly. Members of a squadron or unit falsely convicted and executed for the crimes of other soldiers within those same squadrons and units. Since we're talking about military tribunals here, Taiwan wrongfully convicted and executed a soldier via military tribunal for rape and murder in 1997, with his innocence coming to light more than a decade later: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-15476561
by United States of Americanas » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:53 pm
by Neymarland » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:43 pm
United States of Americanas wrote:The death penalty gives one a free exit from earth, potentially letting them meet God and get purified. Blah blah insert religious garb here. It’s far more hell on a person to have them sit in jail for life without parole than it is to strap them to a gurney give them loopy juice and they die in front of you. Ban the death penalty.
by The Candy Of Bottles » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:59 pm
by Neymarland » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:04 pm
The Candy Of Bottles wrote:And my vote against has already been cast. As I have said before, capital punishment is absolutely necessary in some circumstances. Certain individuals crimes are simply impossible to reform and pose too great of an escape risk for life imprisonment to be remotely feasible. If your nation has somehow escaped those conditions, great. But remember this is a multi-species assembly, and those circumstances are far from universal.
by The Candy Of Bottles » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:12 pm
Neymarland wrote:The Candy Of Bottles wrote:And my vote against has already been cast. As I have said before, capital punishment is absolutely necessary in some circumstances. Certain individuals crimes are simply impossible to reform and pose too great of an escape risk for life imprisonment to be remotely feasible. If your nation has somehow escaped those conditions, great. But remember this is a multi-species assembly, and those circumstances are far from universal.
And your's are far from universal too. My vote has been cast, and changing it is not an option. If they pose too great of an escape risk, then improve your prison system, not go to death. And, as much as it regrets me to say this, if they are impossible to reform, then leave them there.
by Aromea » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:32 pm
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