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by Warzone Codger » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:22 pm
by Praeceps » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:41 pm
by Goobergunchia » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:56 pm
by Fauxia » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:04 pm
Crazy girl wrote:They went for Nasicournia as well? I have no words.
by Goobergunchia » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:08 pm
by Praeceps » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:36 pm
by RiderSyl » Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:35 pm
by McMasterdonia » Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:03 pm
The status of CCD as a fascist region has not been any point of contention during these discussions about the quorum raids. The South Pacific also acknowledges that the Confederation is a fascist region. The fact that the CCD founder and delegate have attempted to shift their image to gain popularity once more should not be taken as a genuine effort at reform.RiderSyl wrote:The North Pacific still has not provided any substantive evidence that CCD's reformation away from fascism since mid-2020 was fake, nor any substantive evidence that CCD is indeed still fascist. I will, however, provide evidence that at least one individual in The North Pacific is too personally involved to act objectively.
Delegate McMasterdonia, you are acting out a personal vendetta, shamelessly wrapped in the banner of anti-fascism. You stand on weaker legs than most know.
I infiltrated CCD with The Chuck, South Rein (a TNP member at the time), and others from January 2020 until April 2020, when I left due to concerns about illegal activity. The Chuck and South Rein mentioned multiple times in VC chats and chat logs that McMasterdonia (normally referred to as McM or McMaster) was also heavily involved in the group's attempts to infiltrate CCD, but in the shadows, similar to how Lord Ravenclaw liked to operate.
This is why during a January attempt to Commend Riakou, a CCD member that rebelled against Jocospor and ejected half the region in a 'Thanos Snap', there was mention made in the draft of "the TNP intelligence community". See this post by my SC author nation, Yokiria, which at the time explained its connection to McMasterdonia -
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=480439&start=25#p36685227
Unlike McMasterdonia, I can see the issue objectively. The CCD is no longer a fascist region, and Jocospor is not a fascist leader. If TNP's statement was based in reality, I would be supporting TNP here today. If TNP had justified their quorum raids through the CCD's breach of regional sovereignty in 2019, I would be supporting TNP here today. Unfortunately, TNP has decided to call a spade a club. We should call a spade a spade.
by RiderSyl » Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:19 pm
McMasterdonia wrote:The status of CCD as a fascist region has not been any point of contention during these discussions about the quorum raids. The South Pacific also acknowledges that the Confederation is a fascist region. The fact that the CCD founder and delegate have attempted to shift their image to gain popularity once more should not be taken as a genuine effort at reform.
McMasterdonia wrote:The fact remains that their region and leaders have harboured those with nazi and fascist views and maintained regular contact with such groups during the regions existence.
McMasterdonia wrote:I think it would take a fair degree of gullibility to accept that the region is now not fascist, considering it still has the same leadership and maintains the same sympathies that it always has.
by McMasterdonia » Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:40 pm
by RiderSyl » Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:56 pm
McMasterdonia wrote:As to the final portion of your post, I have no response to that as I haven’t the faintest idea what you are referring to.
by Valerox » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:12 pm
by The Cascadian Bioregion » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:35 pm
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:44 pm
Valerox wrote:OOC statement condemning the recent positions taken by McMasterdonia and The North Pacific against the Confederation:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1496687
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
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by RiderSyl » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:13 am
by The Church of Satan » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:07 am
by Numero Capitan » Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:09 am
by The Notorious Mad Jack » Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:11 am
Hello, you may have missed in your considerable absence that The North Pacific has changed a lot since you last graced us with your presence. In that time, one development that occurred was that The North Pacific government decided that when we were struck at, we would strike back. In January of 2020 we revealed an attempted infiltration and coup attempt by the Confederation of Corrupt Dictatorships of The North Pacific, and in retaliation, began to hit their embassied regions as part of a short and successful campaign to strike at this fascist region. Since then, The North Pacific has continuously opposed the CCD's attempts to fool the rest of NSGP that they had reformed. Nothing we see and nothing that has been presented to us, suggests that they have, nor have they reformed from the actions they took against our region. In light of this, it was quite clear to anyone who has been around at any point in the last year or so, that would oppose this attempt to repeal the liberation against them.Goobergunchia wrote:While I understand and respect TNP's decision (I mean, I can't actually claim Nasi has been active in many years) I'm probably morally obligated to express my disappointment or something. However, what I'm actually disappointed in TNP for is their decision to invade our long-time friends and allies over merely approving of a Security Council proposal that didn't even target TNP. I must have missed when that became an accepted casus belli.
Goobergunchia II
Nasicournian Officer
Crazy girl wrote:The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:When was The Moon an ally of The North Pacific?
I always considered the North Pacific to be a friend and ally of myself (considering I helped train the first iteration of the NPA, not to mention operation puppet master and general support and friendly relations over the years), and I thought the North Pacific thought the same of me.
by The Church of Satan » Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:26 am
by The Notorious Mad Jack » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:35 am
The Church of Satan wrote:The least TNP could have done was try to avoid their nuclear option wherever possible. They could have shown some respect for their past friends.
by Numero Capitan » Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:01 am
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:I figured I'd move my reply to this here because it's of a similar vein to what Goobergunchia is saying. I apologise if you feel TNP has slighted you personally, given your previous association with the region, back before a significant minority of people playing this game were born, but The North Pacific has, for the past decade, operated under the assumption that the only allies we have are those with whom we have treaties of alliance with - or, at the very least, non-aggression or mutual recognition. If that wasn't the case, then we must've missed that memo.
Whilst I am sure in the past on a personal level the then leadership considered you and other regions a friend and ally, I feel it is perfectly acceptable to ask - what have you done for me lately? You cannot assume or expect a relationship with TNP where one does not exist or has ceased to exist many years ago.
by Xoriet » Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:19 am
RiderSyl wrote:McMasterdonia wrote:As to the final portion of your post, I have no response to that as I haven’t the faintest idea what you are referring to.
So TNP didn't cite the logs I described from December 2020 in the CCD Discord as evidence of CCD not changing? Funny, I doubt the NPO would lie about that. I suppose one of your officials just didn't tell you. If you're as slow as I am in learning these things about your own administration, McM, maybe you should let someone else be the Delegate of the North Pacific.
by Jocospor » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:25 am
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