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Ex-Nation

Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:47 am

Trotterdam wrote:Has anyone confirmed #1143 even having an option 4? I don't see anyone reporting it in this thread.

I confirm #1143 has three options.
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Postby Racoda » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:21 pm

Issue #238 opt. 5 and 6:
5. “We still have a military?” questions your Minister of Peace, scratching his unruly hair and smelling none too vaguely of patchouli. “Man, I thought we got rid of those war pigs ages ago. Y’know, if you’d just listen to me and go with flowers instead of firearms, this whole gays-in-the-military thing wouldn’t be such a buzzkill all the time. Hey, speaking of buzzes, I just got these mighty strong Brancalandian Blues from a guy I know. I’m on one right now and they are far OUT. You wanna expand your mind with me? No? That’s cool too.”
6. “We still have a military?” questions your Minister of Peace, scratching his unruly hair and smelling none too vaguely of patchouli. “Man, I thought we got rid of those war pigs and all that enlistment hoopla ages ago. Y’know, if you’d just listen to me and go with flowers instead of firearms, this whole gays-in-the-military thing wouldn’t be such a buzzkill all the time. Hey, speaking of buzzes, I just got these mighty strong Brancalandian Blues from a guy I know. I’m on one right now and they are far OUT. You wanna expand your mind with me? No? That’s cool too.”

The puppet that got option 6 has the Conscription policy. None of the three puppets that got option 5 has that policy. That's most likely the eligibility because of the and all that enlistment hoopla mention.

I got #366 options 1,2,4 on four puppets. All of them had conscription and only two had state press. This would suggest the requirements are different or have changed.
1. These traitorous cowards need to be prosecuted!” says red-faced Vice Admiral Ganondorf O'Hara while puffing out his chest, proudly showing off his own service medals. “They demean the heroic actions of veterans who did actually earn the medals, and desecrate the memory of those who died in service of RSCA19. I know what my boys would do to these charlatans if they caught them, and I can’t promise I’d intervene! I’d like to see these pretenders try to earn the medals they want to show off. Actually, let’s do that - send all these fraudsters to the front line. That’ll teach them.”
2. “It is the right of all citizens to express themselves in any way they chose,” claims free speech advocate Wesley Vader while wearing a t-shirt that calls you a rather crude obscenity. “People should be free to dress in any uniform without fear of reprisal or punishment - and that includes wearing a uniform of the RAF. What better way to display to the world one’s patriotism! And if you happen to get more respect or some discounts because of it, all the better. If that argument doesn’t persuade you, then maybe you should ask the Vice Admiral how he won those medals. You can bet your bottom card that if you criminalise this, concerned citizens will start asking serving officers that question. Do you want the military to have another public relations disaster?”
4. “Why do we celebrate and glorify warmongering by raising these conquistadors above everyone else?” questions Bruce Cole, an anti-war protester outside the gates of your office building. “These medals and uniforms only exist to exert dominance and fear over the masses. The military claim these medals are rewards, but they are actually trophies declaring to the world how many innocent civilians their brainwashed killers massacred. We should do away with our armed forces, abolish the draft and imprison those who volunteered to supposedly kill in the name of RSCA19.”


Issue #310 option 4 (identical to 3 from what I can tell, I highlighted the changes, though that's likely just errors in the original):
4. “The government, all the way up to @@LEADER@@, has used this ban as a way to control parliament,” declares Opposition Whip @@RANDOMNAME@@, speaking from the Floor, “They’re perfectly happy to let debates about the most inconsequential of matters rage on for hours, but when it comes to a serious discussion of @@LEADER@@’s murky ties to prominent members of the @@MAJORINDUSTRY@@ industry or policies genuinely aimed at helping the general public, rather than a select few, the debate comes to a quick close. We must overturn the filibuster ban, post-haste. And I think it is clear to all who suffer from this. That’s right, my friends, ladies and gentlemen, casual onlookers, convenient family members, cultural attachés, politically active tourists and constituents, both loyal and traitorous to the greater cause; the people. The people suffer the injustices of a government pandering to its corporate cronies, its oligarchic overlords, its necessary nepotists, if you will. They suffer the delirious - ah - deleterious effects of a government sans filibuster, sans fairness, sans freedom! This ridiculous policy ignores the fact that some things require longer and more serious deliberation - as does, indeed, this very issue. But I am diverging from my abundantly clear point, supported by the voices of a thousand-strong crowd outside this very building. And while we might quibble over the numbers - a thousand, I hear you cry? Tens - hundreds! - of thousands, surely? But this ignores the fundamental spirit of the times - zeitgeist, if you will - that we stand against this filibuster ban clearly and unwaveringly. Anyway, a discussion of the genuinely humanitarian policies my party espouses, which require a debate of adequate length for the complexities of which to be fully understood, are quickly relegated as the government trots out its latest quick-fix or vote-snatching policy. Now, to move onto my second point of four-hundred-and-thirty-eight of my first speech - I will, of course, pass over to my comrade on the bench in due course.” The security guards by the door notice your discreet signal and step quietly towards the Whip’s podium. “Perhaps we should investigate further... excuse me...?” stammers the Whip, as your guards gingerly carry @@HIM@@ away. “Ah... yes, thank you for your time.”
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Postby Paffnia » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:33 am

Just got #77 on Transportation. Option 2 was missing, likely because the nation has the "No computers" policy (or possibly "No Internet"). Also, some of the formatting (italics and em dashes) has changed:

The Issue

Along with the rest of the world, the citizens of @@NAME@@ have been stunned by the revelation of a small team of geophysical philosophers that the world turns exactly one year old today, as measured by what they call “RL units”. (Congratulations on finding so many easter eggs. As a reward, here is the special issue our players got when NationStates turned one year old.)

The Debate

1. “Frankly, I saw this comingall the signs of the Apocalypse are here,” says local community leader @@RANDOMNAME@@. “Moral standards are falling, the government is making increasingly erratic decisions, and people are neglecting their work to play bizarre political simulation games on the internet. There’s only one sensible reaction: declaring a state of emergency, sending out the military, and shooting curfew breakers until the crisis is over.”

[2]

3. “Why panic when you should be partying?” says @@RANDOMNAME@@, not completely soberly. “It’s the first birthday of the world, manlet people go nuts! If the government has a shred of decency, they’ll order the cops to back off and let people really enjoy this incredible moment in history.”

4. “This is neither a time for clamping down, nor, as they say, going off,” says religious leader @@RANDOMNAME@@. “Rather, we should encourage people to reflect on the great mysteries of life. For example, what is God, to each of us? What is the true meaning of faith? And is the world around us reality, or are we instead living inside a simulated reality that exists only for the amusement of beings we cannot even imagine?”

5. “Well, I know what I’ll be doing,” says obscure author and Perl amateur Max Barry. “Sitting at home with a good book! Jennifer Government, for instance, is a cracking read. And I hear that some of the profits go into maintaining a cool web game. But of course, that’s just my opinion. People should celebrate however they want.”
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Postby Valentine Z » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:39 am

Ahh, neat changes, I will take note of that. Thank you! ^^

As for the dashes, I would like to ask if you still remember the spaces (or the lack thereof)? In other words, is it
"coming—all", or
"coming — all" ?

Or "coming— all" or "coming —all"?
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Postby Paffnia » Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:45 pm

Em dash, no spaces:
Valentine Z wrote:"coming—all"
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Postby Tinhampton » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:38 pm

#1425, Option 2: I got Rodrigo Assange instead of Salvatore Matei, for what it's worth. "The Leader's Men" should also read "The Leader's Men" with italics.
Same issue, Option 5: "...and you won’t need to fuss..." should read "...and you won’t need to fuss..." with italics.
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Postby Paffnia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:37 am

Pogaria wrote:
Paffnia wrote:#433: The Worst Storm To Hit @@NAME@@ Since...Yesterday? is the only one with an ellipsis between words in the title but no space. The rest of the titles (and it looks like issues' text, too) with an ellipsis between words use "XXXX... XXXX," with a space after the ellipsis.

The official version does have a space.
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Postby Cretox State » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:57 am

Oysen Empire wrote:
#1428: In the Bag

The Issue

A Bigtopian diplomatic bag was accidentally searched by customs officers, contrary to diplomatic conventions. Before the search was stopped, the bag was found to contain cocaine brownies, snortable marijuana, gold leaf toilet paper rolls, and jars of whale oil. Even though the bags were promptly handed over to the Bigtopian embassy, questions have been raised about this discovery.

The Debate

1. “This is the most obvious case of smuggling I’ve ever seen!” says customs officer Chun-Li Burns, oblivious to a man wearing a trenchcoat full of fake watches sneaking through the checkpoint behind him. “Those Bigtopians are abusing our trust by bringing in all manner of illegal items, and not paying duties on the legal ones. You need to punish the Bigtopians by expelling them immediately, even if it exposes us as breaking diplomatic conventions.”

2. “Why do we allow diplomatic bags anyway?” asks one of your aides. “Just treat embassy luggage the same as any other luggage, subject to the exact same rules and examination as everybody else’s bags.”

3. “While diplomatic bags aren’t meant to contain contraband, the greater fault is ours,” observes your Minister of Protocol. “To open a diplomatic bag — even accidentally — is a major breach of trust. Embassies being allowed to confidentially send documents and communications to their own governments is the basis of international diplomacy. Also, dare I say it, our own diplomatic bags carry sensitive information back to us from other nations which are critical to our intelligence community. Apologise to the Bigtopians, claim you didn’t look closely at the contents, and offer them a hefty payment in contrition for our impoliteness."

4. “The illegal products aren’t as important as the concealed intel,” agrees spymaster ‘N’, while searching your briefcase without permission. “Imagine the valuable intelligence we could find by covertly opening every country’s diplomatic bags. We could learn military secrets, along with the names of foreign spies within our country, then replicate their passports for espionage. We can blackmail couriers, walk them through hidden scanners, and employ tradecraft in other subtler ways to compromise the bags. It’s the right thing to do for our glorious @@TYPE@@.”

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A problem with option one is that "Chun-Li" is a female name, so who is "him"?

Speaker 1 is at least @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@, perhaps @@RANDOMNAME@@.
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Postby SherpDaWerp » Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:42 am

FYI Val, I've submitted another pull request to fix some formatting inconsistencies in recent issues that I picked up while regenerating the GI Rankings.
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Postby Valentine Z » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:30 am

SherpDaWerp wrote:FYI Val, I've submitted another pull request to fix some formatting inconsistencies in recent issues that I picked up while regenerating the GI Rankings.

I will look into it, thank you!

EDIT: Your changes have been stashed and now edited in the list. Thank you! ♥

I will go through the other changes and reports tomorrow.
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Postby Oysen Empire » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:06 pm

#1429: The Wind Become Death

The Issue

Recent studies of becquerel-burdened berries have found that radioactive fallout from nuclear weapons testing in Althaniq has been carried into @@NAME@@ by transoceanic jet streams.

The Debate

1. “Althaniq might be keen to join the big boys at the nuclear-capable club, but this sort of sloppiness makes it clear they’re not ready,” comments your Minister of International Patronisation. “@@NAME@@ is like an elder sibling to Althaniq — tell them that they don’t need a nuclear weapons program, because they’re already under our protection. In fact, tell them they have to cease all testing now and in perpetuity, if they want to stay on our good side, and pay reparations for the harm they’ve done. They gotta remember their place.”

2. “No, can you not see? This is the danger of raw, unadulterated nuclear power!” cries nuclear disarmament activist Jazz Chan as she manically waves around a Geiger counter that clicks worryingly as it sweeps past your groin area. “These weapons imperil our very means of life — the ramifications of radiation spare no one. Althaniq must cease their nuclear ambitions, and we should lead by example. Disarm now!”

3. “How boring, like I haven’t heard that two hundred and thirty-five times already,” yawns nuclear scientist Mohammed Huxley. “Look, Althaniq is only doing nuclear tests because they’re decades behind advanced nations like ours. We did all our testing decades ago, and there’s really no need for them to repeat all that messy business. Just share our technical knowledge with them, and we’ll be even closer allies than before.”

4. “We should use these jet streams to our advantage,” whispers your Minister of Stealth Bombing as he materialises out of nowhere. “Our scientists have compiled a detailed map of jet stream systems — correctly employ these, and we can secretly detonate dirty bombs in the middle of nowhere, while still delivering cancer and illness into the heart of enemy nations.”

Issue by The Winter Wonder of Westinor

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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:05 am

Valentine’s Changelog 024

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- Added more issues.
- Fixed some macros.
- Added/Removed some options here and there.

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Postby Cretox State » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:54 pm

Oysen Empire wrote:
#1429: The Wind Become Death

The Issue

Recent studies of becquerel-burdened berries have found that radioactive fallout from nuclear weapons testing in Althaniq has been carried into @@NAME@@ by transoceanic jet streams.

The Debate

1. “Althaniq might be keen to join the big boys at the nuclear-capable club, but this sort of sloppiness makes it clear they’re not ready,” comments your Minister of International Patronisation. “@@NAME@@ is like an elder sibling to Althaniq — tell them that they don’t need a nuclear weapons program, because they’re already under our protection. In fact, tell them they have to cease all testing now and in perpetuity, if they want to stay on our good side, and pay reparations for the harm they’ve done. They gotta remember their place.”

2. “No, can you not see? This is the danger of raw, unadulterated nuclear power!” cries nuclear disarmament activist Jazz Chan as she manically waves around a Geiger counter that clicks worryingly as it sweeps past your groin area. “These weapons imperil our very means of life — the ramifications of radiation spare no one. Althaniq must cease their nuclear ambitions, and we should lead by example. Disarm now!”

3. “How boring, like I haven’t heard that two hundred and thirty-five times already,” yawns nuclear scientist Mohammed Huxley. “Look, Althaniq is only doing nuclear tests because they’re decades behind advanced nations like ours. We did all our testing decades ago, and there’s really no need for them to repeat all that messy business. Just share our technical knowledge with them, and we’ll be even closer allies than before.”

4. “We should use these jet streams to our advantage,” whispers your Minister of Stealth Bombing as he materialises out of nowhere. “Our scientists have compiled a detailed map of jet stream systems — correctly employ these, and we can secretly detonate dirty bombs in the middle of nowhere, while still delivering cancer and illness into the heart of enemy nations.”

Issue by The Winter Wonder of Westinor

Edited by Candlewhisper Archive

Just got this. Speaker 2 is at least @@RANDOMFEMALENAME@@. Speaker 3 is at least @@RANDOMMALENAME@@. Speaker 4 is still a he.
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Postby Paffnia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:59 am

Here are all the options for #1378:

Trotterdam wrote:
The First Congratulatory Union wrote:I'm also curious as to what the option 2 validity is
It's just a minor variant of option 1 for nations which haven't filled in the @@LEADER@@ field, which causes the effect line to use @@NAME@@ rather than @@LEADER@@.

This is correct; I just checked on two nations, and internally numbered options 0 and 1 are identical:

#1378: Authorization to Kill

The Story So Far

The navy has been sent to blockade the nearby island of San Vitenzo, where East Lebatuck has been installing nuclear missiles.

The Issue

San Vitenzo is currently surrounded by a mighty armada of @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ naval vessels. However, convoys of ships from East Lebatuck are quickly approaching your blockade line and are threatening to open fire unless you let them through.

The Debate

Internal option 0. “We can’t let the commies intimidate us!” declares Defense Minister Mack Rimera, who is pouring something from a flask into his morning coffee. “If they think we’re weak, they’ll just continue trying to take advantage of us at every opportunity. Have our flagship fire a warning shot across their bows and order East Lebatuck’s ships to turn around. If the enemy doesn’t comply, open fire and unleash hell.” [Must have a leader]

Internal option 1. “We can’t let the commies intimidate us!” declares Defense Minister Mack Rimera, who is pouring something from a flask into his morning coffee. “If they think we’re weak, they’ll just continue trying to take advantage of us at every opportunity. Have our flagship fire a warning shot across their bows and order East Lebatuck’s ships to turn around. If the enemy doesn’t comply, open fire and unleash hell.” [Must not have a leader]

Internal option 2. “No! That could escalate to war — and it would all be our fault!” shouts Maureen Dusk, who had been plucking a few notes of ‘Born in @@NAME@@’ on her guitar. “Keep the blockade in place and demand that the enemy stay back, but order our navy to take no action unless they’re directly attacked. Stopping East Lebatuck’s cargo shipments isn’t worth our sailors’ lives.”

Issue by The Holy Empire of Pogaria

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I don't think there is a fourth option, and the current validities given on the issue list need changing.
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Postby TalAkMaChen » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:33 am

Guess who's back to check validities and stuff once more. :roll:

Trotterdam wrote:While perusing NSindex, I came across evidence that #906 has a variant of its last option depending on whether the nation leans towards being religious or non-religious (the non-religious version is the one currently in the thread). The person who reported this did not mention which comes first in internal option numbering, and also didn't use the standard NSindex style policy for option variants, but I have solid evidence that the report is accurate.


Contrary to that, I encountered #906 today at an Atheist nation which should thus have seen option 4. Checking the page source it was, however, listed as option 5 (option-4 internally, so increase by 1). Either they changed numbering or the not-so-religious variant has been option 5 all along.

Other things:
- 1365,1+2 "while @@HE@@ sips a ..." (both can be either gender)
- 1408 names are random (3 is female, 4 is @@MAN@@ as it can be either)
- 1415 names are random
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Postby Paffnia » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:16 am

Found a second option for #1387:

#1387: The @@DEMONYM@@ with the Golden Gun

The Story So Far

Your government offered to trade prisoners with East Lebatuck.

The Issue

Good news, everyone! East Lebatuck has accepted your offer for a prisoner swap — on the condition that you deliver their agent to the meeting place in person, alone and unarmed.

The Debate

Internal option 0. You have arrived at the agreed-upon location, a bridge that spans the border between Smalltopia and East Lebatuck. Their spy, who is still wearing handcuffs and a @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ prison uniform, dutifully shuffles alongside you as you exit your car. The night air seems colder than usual for this time of year. After a few minutes, an armored personnel carrier drives over from the other side of the bridge, with lackeys in suits running alongside the vehicle. A phalanx of bodyguards armed with automatic rifles jump out of the vehicle and point their weapons at you as East Lebatuck Chairman Joseph Rushev steps out of the back. He pulls a disheveled figure out of the vehicle and pushes him toward you as your own prisoner starts walking toward his people. “Come here, Comrade Adel. The imperialists can’t hurt you anymore,” smirks Rushev, who turns to face you. “So, I must ask... how stupid are you? Now I get to swap a useless prisoner for the leader of @@NAME@@! How much money do you think your government is willing to pay to get you back?” Without warning, the guard furthest to the right suddenly pivots and unleashes a barrage of bullets into the other guards, who are cut down before they realize what is happening. The rogue shooter removes his helmet, revealing the handsome face of James Bont. Your secret agent runs over to your position, keeping his rifle pointed at Chairman Rushev, and pulls out a phone. After dialing a number, he listens intently for a moment before a loud burst of static disrupts the silence. “Looks like your plans are shot, comrade!” announces Bont, mockingly. “I’ve just detonated all of the hidden explosives that I planted on your missiles on San Vitenzo. Consider yourself impotent! I suggest you head on home, or the next bullet that comes out of this gun is going to get a little Red.” Bont turns toward you as Chairman Rushev jumps back into his vehicle and slinks away towards the other side of the bridge. “Let’s go home, shall we?”

Internal option 1. You have arrived at the agreed-upon location, a bridge that spans the border between Smalltopia and East Lebatuck. Their spy, who is still wearing handcuffs and a @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ prison uniform, dutifully shuffles alongside you as you exit your car. The night air seems colder than usual for this time of year. After a few minutes, an armored personnel carrier drives over from the other side of the bridge, with lackeys in suits running alongside the vehicle. A phalanx of bodyguards armed with automatic rifles jump out of the vehicle and point their weapons at you as East Lebatuck Chairman Joseph Rushev steps out of the back. He pulls a hooded, disheveled figure out of the vehicle, who slumps to the ground, unconscious. Your own prisoner starts walking toward his people. “Come here, Comrade Adel. The imperialists can’t hurt you anymore,” smirks Rushev, who turns to face you. “So, I must ask... how stupid are you? Now I get to swap a useless prisoner for the leader of @@NAME@@! How much money do you think your government is willing to pay to get you back?” Without warning, the guard furthest to the right suddenly pivots and unleashes a barrage of bullets into the other guards, who are cut down before they realize what is happening. The rogue shooter removes his helmet, revealing the handsome face of James Bont. Rushev yanks the hood from the unconscious prisoner at his feet and yelps upon recognizing his own bodyguard. Your secret agent runs over to your position, keeping his rifle pointed at Chairman Rushev, and pulls out a phone. After dialing a number, he listens intently for a moment before a loud burst of static disrupts the silence. “Looks like your plans are shot, comrade!” announces Bont, mockingly. “I’ve just detonated all of the hidden explosives that I planted on your missiles on San Vitenzo. Consider yourself impotent! I suggest you head on home, or the next bullet that comes out of this gun is going to get a little Red.” Bont turns toward you as Chairman Rushev jumps back into his vehicle and slinks away towards the other side of the bridge. “Let’s go home, shall we?”

Issue by The Holy Empire of Pogaria

Edited by Pogaria


Also, this needs updating and didn't make it into the last changelog:
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Postby Nosam Republic » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:06 pm

I have issue #1420 in my inbox. What info should I give?
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:49 pm

Nosam Republic wrote:I have issue #1420 in my inbox. What info should I give?

Hey! Welcome.

First, you want to view the source code, if you know how to do that, to check for the internal numberings (this can reveal hidden options). Find where the text of the options are in the source code and look for something next to each option text that looks similar to

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<button type="submit" name="choice-0" value="1" class="button big icon approve">Accept</button>


You want to look at "choice" and the number after it. Note that the options there are shifted down, IE, "choice-0" is option 1, "choice-1" is option 2, etc,

Then, copy-paste the issue (including the title, the opening passage, all options displayed for you, the author(s), and the editor(s)), matching each option to its proper number as you found in the source code.

That should be it. I hope it doesn't sound too complicated. If you don't know how to find the source code or can't find the options, no biggie, we'll find it eventually (although you'd want to try looking it up first, as you can find instructions for that online). If that doesn't help, you can just tell us and copy-paste the rest of what I said.

I assume this is on the nation you posted with? If it's on a puppet, it's helpful to tell us for figuring out validities.
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Postby Nosam Republic » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:28 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Nosam Republic wrote:I have issue #1420 in my inbox. What info should I give?

Hey! Welcome.

First, you want to view the source code, if you know how to do that, to check for the internal numberings (this can reveal hidden options). Find where the text of the options are in the source code and look for something next to each option text that looks similar to

Code: Select all
<button type="submit" name="choice-0" value="1" class="button big icon approve">Accept</button>


You want to look at "choice" and the number after it. Note that the options there are shifted down, IE, "choice-0" is option 1, "choice-1" is option 2, etc,

Then, copy-paste the issue (including the title, the opening passage, all options displayed for you, the author(s), and the editor(s)), matching each option to its proper number as you found in the source code.

That should be it. I hope it doesn't sound too complicated. If you don't know how to find the source code or can't find the options, no biggie, we'll find it eventually (although you'd want to try looking it up first, as you can find instructions for that online). If that doesn't help, you can just tell us and copy-paste the rest of what I said.

I assume this is on the nation you posted with? If it's on a puppet, it's helpful to tell us for figuring out validities.


Yes, it is on this nation. This is what I have:

Issue #1420

Title: Trading Climate Sours

The Issue

Your refusal to sign a landmark climate treaty has resulted in bitter trade relations with some of the countries who did sign it. A number of imported items have run out of stock nationwide, causing them to be replaced with odd substitutes, which are now also out of stock. Upon realizing that the pitcher formerly containing luxury mangosteen juice is instead a strange concoction of vinegar and pineapple extract, everyone at the table is now looking at you with distaste.

The Debate

0. “So it has come to this!” cries Naomi Berenstein, your Minister of Health and Safety, armed with several bandoliers of vitamin C supplements. “Just go back to Brancaland and say that you didn’t SEE the treaty. Of course we would have signed it if only we had known! Though you may want to suggest some... minor amendments, to say the least.” She hands a quantity of flaxseeds and a jar of applesauce in a 2:1 ratio to you. “For luck.”

Accept

1. “First they tell us to bankrupt our country by making reforms that we can’t afford, and now they’re trying to make sure we’ll stay poor by cutting off our trade?” roars your Minister of Commerce, Wally Guterres, writing with a series of crudely whittled charcoal sticks. “We just need to find new trade partners. If we set all the terms, we can end this acrid drought and continue to run on what has made the world’s economy work for centuries. Items like coal, oil, plaster sculptures of your face — and now there’s even less competition for all three!”

Accept

2. “I knew this would happen ever since the man on AM radio said it would,” grumbles retired military officer Bongani Nelson, unfolding his wrist watch into cutlery before attacking a thirty-year-old survival meal kit. “Treaties are just how the globalist elite get you to turn over your sovereignty. If we need something, anything at all, we should make it ourselves! Let’s start making our own products straight from Nosaman soil, even if they don’t grow here, even if they don’t grow at all!”

Accept

Issue by The Fanciful Tales of Refuge Isle

Edited by Noahs Second Country

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I seem to have gotten this as a result of Issue #675 and choosing not to sign the treaty (choice #2)

Hope this is what you were looking for. May not have done it right but oh well. If you need any more info I'm here.
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:19 pm

Whoop, that's a lot of posts in just a night! I have been hitting F5 now and then, now there are quite a handful. :D

Not that I mind doing; it's good to have some changes that needed doing. ♥
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Postby Fauxia » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:33 pm

Congratulations to Refuge Isle on their first issue, joining a rare group of players to have authored an issue and a proposal in both assemblies. As far as I can tell, that number is fewer than ten (although, Omigodtheykilledkenny has no SC resolution but a UN resolution).

And congrats on the edit, Noah.
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:39 pm

Check your inboxes if 1062 comes in.

I answered the issue before I realized something was up (so I couldn't check). I just got it with the name in option 1 being "Tyrone Lancaster". That could be a funny coincidence, but it's oddly close to Tyrion Lannister, and the ambassador is "diminutive", so I'm wondering whether the name was changed to be fixed.

(For anyone who knows even less about Game of Thrones than I do, if those exist, Tyrion Lannister is a major character with midgetism).

I have no idea whether the context has any relation to anything in GoT, but that's an odd coincidence if the name is still randomized.
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:13 pm

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#1430: Taking the Peace? [Candlewhisper Archive; ed: Candlewhisper Archive]

The Issue
The Nobble Peace Prize is an international accolade that is ostensibly awarded to individuals that work for fraternity between nations, reduce standing armies and promote peace. To your surprise, the Skandilundian council that picks the winners has let you know that this year they intend to award it to you. You receive the news while on a military base, welcoming home divisions of battle-hardened soldiers fresh from ongoing conflicts on the Tasmanian border.

The Debate
1. “Looks like the Peace Prize Committee has been convinced to celebrate your pacifism,” laughs Brigadier General Dahl, offering you a clipboard to sign off the latest military budget increase. “That’s a victory for our chaps in the diplomatic corps, pulling strings and working their magic and reframing our military activities as being for global good. You should be proud of them and the propaganda wars they fight on your behalf. Better get working on an acceptance speech, eh?”

2. “Maybe we should instead be trying to make ourselves worthy of the prize?” suggests your niece, symbolically swatting at the military officer with an olive branch. “Bring overseas troops home, honourably discharge them from service and begin a process of demilitarisation. Like I always say to my mum, there’s no need to be so hostile.”

3. “Ha, these feeble Skandilunders are terrified of us, and they’re trying to placate us by offering us this petty tribute,” laughs your Minister of Bovine Disruption of Porcelain Retail. “We should accept the prize, but suggest that rather than a cash prize, perhaps they could cede us a little territory, maybe those halite mines in the northwest. We can deploy the army along their border to emphasise the strength of your opinion.”

Internal numbering says 0, 1, 2.
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Postby Ruritane » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:45 pm

Valentine Z wrote:On my nation Alanis Star.

#1430: Taking the Peace? [Candlewhisper Archive; ed: Candlewhisper Archive]

The Issue
The Nobble Peace Prize is an international accolade that is ostensibly awarded to individuals that work for fraternity between nations, reduce standing armies and promote peace. To your surprise, the Skandilundian council that picks the winners has let you know that this year they intend to award it to you. You receive the news while on a military base, welcoming home divisions of battle-hardened soldiers fresh from ongoing conflicts on the Tasmanian border.

The Debate
1. “Looks like the Peace Prize Committee has been convinced to celebrate your pacifism,” laughs Brigadier General Dahl, offering you a clipboard to sign off the latest military budget increase. “That’s a victory for our chaps in the diplomatic corps, pulling strings and working their magic and reframing our military activities as being for global good. You should be proud of them and the propaganda wars they fight on your behalf. Better get working on an acceptance speech, eh?”

2. “Maybe we should instead be trying to make ourselves worthy of the prize?” suggests your niece, symbolically swatting at the military officer with an olive branch. “Bring overseas troops home, honourably discharge them from service and begin a process of demilitarisation. Like I always say to my mum, there’s no need to be so hostile.”

3. “Ha, these feeble Skandilunders are terrified of us, and they’re trying to placate us by offering us this petty tribute,” laughs your Minister of Bovine Disruption of Porcelain Retail. “We should accept the prize, but suggest that rather than a cash prize, perhaps they could cede us a little territory, maybe those halite mines in the northwest. We can deploy the army along their border to emphasise the strength of your opinion.”

Internal numbering says 0, 1, 2.


Can confirm the Brigadier General's name is random.
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Postby Fauxia » Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:07 pm

Fauxia wrote:Check your inboxes if 1062 comes in.

I answered the issue before I realized something was up (so I couldn't check). I just got it with the name in option 1 being "Tyrone Lancaster". That could be a funny coincidence, but it's oddly close to Tyrion Lannister, and the ambassador is "diminutive", so I'm wondering whether the name was changed to be fixed.

(For anyone who knows even less about Game of Thrones than I do, if those exist, Tyrion Lannister is a major character with midgetism).

I have no idea whether the context has any relation to anything in GoT, but that's an odd coincidence if the name is still randomized.

I answered my own question. The random name in 1062.1 has been replaced by “Tyrone Lancaster”
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