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by Bombadil » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:43 pm
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by Adamede » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:45 pm
by Postauthoritarian America » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:52 pm
by Adamede » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:55 pm
Postauthoritarian America wrote:Since anyone headed for Mars would be dead long before they arrived,
the point is moot. Under the Outer Space Treaty no nation may claim sovereignty over any celestial body. That obviously would apply to portions of any celestial body such as the Moon, as well as to any putative independent colony formed by Earthlings.
by Kowani » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:02 pm
The Emerald Legion wrote:Honestly, I seriously doubt any terrestrial authority will be able to effectively rule over a martian colony. Any support given by an earthborn nation would face an immense time lag between launch and arrival. Like, suppose there's an insurrection on mars. It would take seven months to get any aid there. Not to mention in all likelyhood requiring local assistance to land any sizeable body of troops safely.
by Postauthoritarian America » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:03 pm
Adamede wrote:Postauthoritarian America wrote:Since anyone headed for Mars would be dead long before they arrived,
Where the hell are you getting that?the point is moot. Under the Outer Space Treaty no nation may claim sovereignty over any celestial body. That obviously would apply to portions of any celestial body such as the Moon, as well as to any putative independent colony formed by Earthlings.
We didn’t exactly follow the treaty of Tordesillas very long when it came to colonizing the Americas.
by Adamede » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:04 pm
The Emerald Legion wrote:Honestly, I seriously doubt any terrestrial authority will be able to effectively rule over a martian colony. Any support given by an earthborn nation would face an immense time lag between launch and arrival. Like, suppose there's an insurrection on mars. It would take seven months to get any aid there. Not to mention in all likelyhood requiring local assistance to land any sizeable body of troops safely.
by Adamede » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:06 pm
Postauthoritarian America wrote:Adamede wrote:Where the hell are you getting that?
We didn’t exactly follow the treaty of Tordesillas very long when it came to colonizing the Americas.
Their brains would be fried by radiation, their heart and lungs atrophied in conditions of microgravity or their capsule turned into Swiss cheese and all the air leaked out by micrometeorites. Take your pick. Assuming they got there they would again either suffocate within days or have to live in such an oxygen-rich environment that dropping a fork would start a fire. Again, take your pick. Dead people don't make good space colonists either way.
by The Emerald Legion » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:09 pm
Kowani wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:Honestly, I seriously doubt any terrestrial authority will be able to effectively rule over a martian colony. Any support given by an earthborn nation would face an immense time lag between launch and arrival. Like, suppose there's an insurrection on mars. It would take seven months to get any aid there. Not to mention in all likelyhood requiring local assistance to land any sizeable body of troops safely.
any insurrection would also find itself cut off from any earth support, communications, and supplies
not a great recipie
by Postauthoritarian America » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:12 pm
Adamede wrote:Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Their brains would be fried by radiation, their heart and lungs atrophied in conditions of microgravity or their capsule turned into Swiss cheese and all the air leaked out by micrometeorites. Take your pick. Assuming they got there they would again either suffocate within days or have to live in such an oxygen-rich environment that dropping a fork would start a fire. Again, take your pick. Dead people don't make good space colonists either way.
Sounds like problems that can be overcome with advancements in technology, not something that is a physical law that cannot be broken like light speed.
Some of the brightest minds in the world are working on creating space colonies, and it’s still seen by most in the scientific community as a worthwhile endeavor. I think that speaks enough for itself.
by Bombadil » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:13 pm
The Emerald Legion wrote:Kowani wrote:any insurrection would also find itself cut off from any earth support, communications, and supplies
not a great recipie
I mean, being reliant on earth for support, communications, or supplies is kind of a worse situation to begin with. I'm assuming any colonization effort has to be able to support itself on just what's there and an initial supply dump. Because seven months is a hell of a time to wait for some food and toilet paper.
by Adamede » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:15 pm
Bombadil wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:
I mean, being reliant on earth for support, communications, or supplies is kind of a worse situation to begin with. I'm assuming any colonization effort has to be able to support itself on just what's there and an initial supply dump. Because seven months is a hell of a time to wait for some food and toilet paper.
Matt Damon managed it.
by Stellar Colonies » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:53 pm
Postauthoritarian America wrote:Adamede wrote:Sounds like problems that can be overcome with advancements in technology, not something that is a physical law that cannot be broken like light speed.
Some of the brightest minds in the world are working on creating space colonies, and it’s still seen by most in the scientific community as a worthwhile endeavor. I think that speaks enough for itself.
Some day the human race may enlighten itself to the point where we no longer sacrifice our best and brightest to our vain conceit that there is any place in the known cosmos that can sustain human life except Earth. There is no Planet B.
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Cordel One » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:59 pm
by The Emerald Legion » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:01 pm
Postauthoritarian America wrote:Adamede wrote:Sounds like problems that can be overcome with advancements in technology, not something that is a physical law that cannot be broken like light speed.
Some of the brightest minds in the world are working on creating space colonies, and it’s still seen by most in the scientific community as a worthwhile endeavor. I think that speaks enough for itself.
Some day the human race may enlighten itself to the point where we no longer sacrifice our best and brightest to our vain conceit that there is any place in the known cosmos that can sustain human life except Earth. There is no Planet B.
by Bombadil » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:03 pm
The Emerald Legion wrote:Postauthoritarian America wrote:
Some day the human race may enlighten itself to the point where we no longer sacrifice our best and brightest to our vain conceit that there is any place in the known cosmos that can sustain human life except Earth. There is no Planet B.
Nonsense. It exists, therefor it must be conquered.
by Saiwania » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:09 pm
by UniversalCommons » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:02 pm
by Stellar Colonies » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:45 pm
Saiwania wrote:Lets have it become like the Gundam universe where the peoples on Earth and in the space colonies evolve separately to the point where the space colonies rebel against the Earth for autonomy/self rule, and there is regular warfare between and perhaps within the two worlds.
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:48 pm
Stellar Colonies wrote:You would not want regular warfare between fully developed nation-worlds.
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