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Postby Senkaku » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:12 pm


you've been beaten
Galloism wrote:Giuliani says he's working on Trump's impeachment defense, would argue voter fraud claims

You can’t be sentenced to death during an impeachment trial can you? Because with Rudy as the defense lawyer, I feel like that’s a possibility.


Anyways, I'm almost starting to entertain the idea that Rudy is actually an double-plus-ultra-deep-cover Democratic operative, given how many incredibly public Republican fiascos he's managed for the White House over the past year alone. I mean, hair dye melting and running down your face, and Four Seasons Landscaping, and an abortive coup attempt, and an impeachment defense? What black magic is he working to not get booted from the inner circle at this point?
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:12 pm

Trump's on his way to rebuild in Florida

also, he wants $2 Billion for his presidential library and it's going to be run by Dan Scavino
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:15 pm


and what a rebuilding it will be lmao

I'm reeeeally struggling to see the man's political future at this point, much less any of his malignant whelps.

also, he wants $2 Billion for his presidential library and it's going to be run by Dan Scavino

That sounds... exactly right for him, tbh. pocket a billion, let dan scavino try to build the library w/o enough money and then take the fall for the embezzlement when the project collapses
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:23 pm

A reckoning at the Lincoln Project: John Weaver, the co-founder, declared in a statement that he sent “inappropriate,” sexually charged messages to multiple men.

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Postby Kannap » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:26 pm

Reading up on the 2022 Senate race in North Carolina already because I'm a masochist.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:28 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Senkaku wrote:you've been beaten

And not by Kowani.

An even greater humiliation!

Kowani wrote:A reckoning at the Lincoln Project: John Weaver, the co-founder, declared in a statement that he sent “inappropriate,” sexually charged messages to multiple men.

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Postby Cordel One » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:31 pm

Kowani wrote:A reckoning at the Lincoln Project: John Weaver, the co-founder, declared in a statement that he sent “inappropriate,” sexually charged messages to multiple men.

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The Lincoln Project might not support Trump but it is still cringe. I'd be happy for him coming out considering it's not easy to come out, but the inappropriate messages aren't ok no matter how repressed he is. Hopefully he's able to remain in good contact with his family.
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Postby Myrensis » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:32 pm

Senkaku wrote:

you've been beaten
Galloism wrote:Giuliani says he's working on Trump's impeachment defense, would argue voter fraud claims

You can’t be sentenced to death during an impeachment trial can you? Because with Rudy as the defense lawyer, I feel like that’s a possibility.


Anyways, I'm almost starting to entertain the idea that Rudy is actually an double-plus-ultra-deep-cover Democratic operative, given how many incredibly public Republican fiascos he's managed for the White House over the past year alone. I mean, hair dye melting and running down your face, and Four Seasons Landscaping, and an abortive coup attempt, and an impeachment defense? What black magic is he working to not get booted from the inner circle at this point?


No witchcraft required, just a willingness to unquestioningly and unfailingly kiss Trump's ass and suffer any humiliation on his behalf.

Also at this point it's kind of difficult for Trump to find a lawyer willing to come within 50 feet of him.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:36 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Senkaku wrote:you've been beaten

And not by Kowani.

in my defense, i've been busy today

Myrensis wrote:Also at this point it's kind of difficult for Trump to find a lawyer willing to come within 50 feet of him.
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Postby Corrian » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:09 am

I was gonna read through the thread to get my dose of information, but its moving too fast for me to keep up.
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Postby Corrian » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:14 am

Kannap wrote:Reading up on the 2022 Senate race in North Carolina already because I'm a masochist.

Is the general mindset "Banish Cunningham from ever touching politics again", since he lost a perfectly winnable seat he was LEADING in the whole time, likely because he was a dumb ass? And almost cost us the Senate?
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Postby Kowani » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:17 am

Corrian wrote:I was gonna read through the thread to get my dose of information, but its moving too fast for me to keep up.

we've stopped for the day
off to reading for you :p
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Postby Kannap » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:30 am

Corrian wrote:
Kannap wrote:Reading up on the 2022 Senate race in North Carolina already because I'm a masochist.

Is the general mindset "Banish Cunningham from ever touching politics again", since he lost a perfectly winnable seat he was LEADING in the whole time, likely because he was a dumb ass? And almost cost us the Senate?


He's not appeared on the list of expected names to run, thank goodness.

So far only one person on each side has declared their intention to run.

For the Democrats, Erica Smith has made clear she'll be running. She lost to Cunningham in the 2020 primary but was the runner-up in that primary among all the Dems who ran.

For the Republicans, Mark Walker has tossed his hat in. He is a former U.S. Representative representing NC's 6th Congressional District. He decided not to run for re-election in 2020 so his term ended January 3, 2021.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:07 am

Kannap wrote:
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Yeah I goofed, that was last year. Should have followed the link instead of just reading it from the Google search.

It's just an example. I chose it because of the narrow margin.


The narrow margin is good news for the Democrats, I assume. He won that narrowly against a guy who cheated on his wife during the campaign season. Imagine if the Dems ran an actual good candidate against Tillis in 2026. Or against whoever the Republicans nominate in 2022 for Burr's open seat.


Firstly, thankyou! You didn't just tell me I'm wrong (I get that enough thanks). You provided the missing information. I appreciate that.

An open seat is going to be an open invitation to Trumpsters, even if they have no axe to grind with the previous incumbent. Attracting them even more, by Burr voting to convict, would be a mistake.

That's in my opinion. Bear in mind my electoral record: Vice President (de facto, we had other titles) of a student club with about five full members. It was a "pick your title, you get the title" deal and most of the actual research or reporting was done by committees. As far as I could tell, the primary focus of our club was taking large amounts of whatever drugs we could obtain. Though this obviously had no scholarly nor collegiate purpose, the Student Union didn't seem to mind. My main political achievement was preventing a dispute with the Women's Collective which could have led to further attention from the Student Union.

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:33 am

Kowani wrote:Trump's on his way to rebuild in Florida

also, he wants $2 Billion for his presidential library and it's going to be run by Dan Scavino


In the old days, a guy from New York would still be considered a carpetbagger in Florida. But also in the old days, a guy from New York starting a golf club in Florida would be considered a dangerous radical, and persecuted, for allowing Jews to join his club. Poor Donald is on the wrong side of history every time. Awww.

There's a reason survivalists tend to go inland, to the least populated and least hospitable places. It's not just because land is cheap. It's also because of all the threats to life they envision, other people are the worst.

Shouldn't we be glad that Donald Trump would pursue the exact opposite strategy? Bunker down in the most extreme point of the contiguous 48 states, and attract to himself and his core cultists, all the deplorables who love him best? It's South Florida: the people there aren't great but they're not the worst either. When we build the wall, we will accept refugees no questions asked, while also waving through anyone wishing to check out Trump on the condition they never try to leave again. The exact details can be left to future leaders, but one way or another the Trump dynasty and their cult followers and anyone brave enough to live near them, will be neatly excised from the United States. It's not genocide, it's leaving them to their own devices. It's not exile, it's a grant of land in exchange for going away.
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Postby New haven america » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:52 am

Nousa wrote:
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Ahh ok, the US shouldn't stop terrorists until the terrorists attack the US, or anyone else for that matter. Guess the US shouldn't have declared war on Nazi Germany.


No, honestly. There was no reason for American involvement in WWII, or World War I for that matter.

WWI: US intervention brought an swift end to a war that shouldn't have happened for anywhere near as long as it did.

WWII: Uh, the US was attacked and invaded. Japan attacked the US' main pacific naval base and took over several areas in Alaska while Germany declared war on the US and was attacking us merchant and naval ships in the Atlantic, as well as tried to start a 2nd Mexican-American War.
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Postby Page » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:23 am

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Nousa wrote:
No, honestly. There was no reason for American involvement in WWII, or World War I for that matter.


World War I-no. WWII-Yes. We were attacked by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor. We had reason to attack Japan. I don't think we had justification to attack Germany though.


Japan attacked the US, the US declared war on Japan, Germany declared war on the US.
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Postby Phoenicaea » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:49 am

i bet ‘senate will vote him guilty’, a regiment will come to dislodge him. regarding _freiehct reich, best accusations for his argument is prussian flag. prussia is not third reich relative.

i feel most of the national-socialist reminescence is based on the historically false assimilation of prussian militarism with genocide speech. that is not so swift. prussians were ferocious, not delirious.
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Postby Agarntrop » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:52 am

Phoenicaea wrote:i bet he will be condemned, a regiment will come to dislodge him.

???

Nothing you say ever makes sense
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Postby The United Confederacy of Texas » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:52 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Freiheit Chill the fuck down even I don't say shit like that.


That is an exaggeration. I said they should be put in humane labor camps (40-50 hours a week of work) and given some pay (maybe $1-2 a day), caned (safely), and deported. I said the sentence should be short (6 months for first offense and 1 year for further offenses). They are criminals. I favor labor camps and canings for most other criminals as well (but illegal immigrants can be kept separate-illegal immigration is a minor offense). Do you say the US 'enslaves' thieves? Illegal immigrants are criminals.

Sadly, most politicians don't actually want to be that tough on illegal immigration. Even Trump was too soft in my idea and that is why caravans keep forming. They know the US just plays games.

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:26 am

Agarntrop wrote:
Phoenicaea wrote:i bet he will be condemned, a regiment will come to dislodge him.

???

Nothing you say ever makes sense


English isn't their first language. I think, Greek?

I think Google translate from their native language, would be easier for us. But it's hard not to respect Phoenicaea's growing vocabulary: he/she knows English words I don't. If they used simpler sentence structures, I'm sure you wouldn't have a problem with the occasional out-of-context word.

"A regiment" I think means a military unit, and I'm not the one to criticize because I've very fuzzy on whether a battalion is larger than a company etc. I THINK the non-specific term for any of them (ie not implying how many troops) would be "unit" but I'm not even sure about that.

Reading and trying to understand things you find difficult, will make you a better reader you know ;)
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:40 am

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Kexholm Karelia wrote:REPUBLICAN politician has portrait of Mao Zedong, wtf

EDIT: Whoops, turns out he was a Democrat, that just makes it worse

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I have an actually commissioned portrait of Che. And?

Yeah ive a framed print of Che that i got as a christmas gift years ago. Its pretty good art and why i keep it.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:50 am

Phoenicaea wrote:i bet ‘senate will vote him guilty’, a regiment will come to dislodge him. regarding _freiehct reich, best accusations for his argument is prussian flag. prussia is not third reich relative.

i feel most of the national-socialist reminescence is based on the historically false assimilation of prussian militarism with genocide speech. that is not so swift. prussians were ferocious, not delirious.

"I bet the Senate will find him guilty, a military unit will come to remove him. Regarding Freiheit Reich, the most relevant thing for his argument is the Prussian flag [lthough] Prussia is not related to the Third Reich"

"I feel as though a lot of the National Socialist (Nazi) memorabilia is based on the historically false association of Prussian militarism with genocidal rhetoric. But not so fast. Prussians were ferocious, not delusional"

Agarntrop wrote:
Phoenicaea wrote:i bet he will be condemned, a regiment will come to dislodge him.

???

Nothing you say ever makes sense

it's not that hard

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:???

Nothing you say ever makes sense


English isn't their first language. I think, Greek?

Italian, i believe, they've mentioned it before
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