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Which country is the biggest threat to America?

China
110
70%
Russia
16
10%
Israel
18
11%
Iran
5
3%
North Korea
4
3%
ISIS
4
3%
 
Total votes : 157

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Postby Foundhome Republic » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:25 am

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.

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The Greater Gothic Empire
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Postby The Greater Gothic Empire » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:28 am

Qihein wrote:Israel is clearly the biggest threat.

You got me b0ss.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:56 am

Sundiata wrote:Terrorism, foreign and domestic.


Do you mean Trump and his followers?
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:57 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Terrorism, foreign and domestic.


Do you mean Trump and his followers?

Not everyone who supports/supported Trump is a domestic terrorist. The Capitol storming was totally an insurrection, though.
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Postby Kandorith » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:59 am

None of the above. The largest threat to the USA and it's allies, is the USA itself. We've seen this happening during the past administration more than enough.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:00 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Do you mean Trump and his followers?

Not everyone who supports/supported Trump is a domestic terrorist. The Capitol storming was totally an insurrection, though.


You have to define the followers. Somebody who voted and lost and said Oh well; next time. Not a problem. Somebody who believes stop the steal?.....
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Terrorism, foreign and domestic.


Do you mean Trump and his followers?

Many of them, yes.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:19 pm

Sundiata wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Do you mean Trump and his followers?

Many of them, yes.

How many? The criminals who stormed the Capitol cannot represent all Trump supporters and ex-Trump supporters.
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Postby Adamede » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:23 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Do you mean Trump and his followers?

Not everyone who supports/supported Trump is a domestic terrorist. The Capitol storming was totally an insurrection, though.

No but they are going to likely be our largest source of actual domestic terrorism in these coming years.

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Postby Sundiata » Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:14 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Many of them, yes.

How many? The criminals who stormed the Capitol cannot represent all Trump supporters and ex-Trump supporters.

Who has an approximate number?
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:36 pm

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Postby Tierra Fuego » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:50 pm

The Vatican, but since that's not on the poll I spun a wheel and it landed on Iran and I have to agree that it was also my instinct when I saw the poll. Russia has their own problems or now, China has never been aggressive 2ward foreign powers outside their quad and I don't buy it that they will soon, it makes me laugh that people here pretend to feel threatened by Israel so it's the second most popular option. #firstworldproblems

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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:00 pm

Tierra Fuego wrote:The Vatican, but since that's not on the poll I spun a wheel and it landed on Iran and I have to agree that it was also my instinct when I saw the poll. Russia has their own problems or now, China has never been aggressive 2ward foreign powers outside their quad and I don't buy it that they will soon, it makes me laugh that people here pretend to feel threatened by Israel so it's the second most popular option. #firstworldproblems

The Vatican? I am curious about your take on this.

I still think the CCP is a huge threat, but I agree with you that Israel is not a problem.
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Postby My Political Fantasy » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:06 pm

5 internal threats.

1.Right-wing populism.
2.Decreasing acceptance of pluralism.
3.Income inequality.
4.Nihilism with political institutions.
5.Incompetent government.

5 external threats.

1.China
2.Russia
3.Iran
4.North Korea.
5. I can't think of one, America has it too good geographically.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:12 pm

Corrupt Government Officials, continued 'free' trade with China, and a subverted corporate apparatus.
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Postby Adamede » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:41 pm

Tierra Fuego wrote:The Vatican, but since that's not on the poll I spun a wheel and it landed on Iran and I have to agree that it was also my instinct when I saw the poll. Russia has their own problems or now, China has never been aggressive 2ward foreign powers outside their quad and I don't buy it that they will soon, it makes me laugh that people here pretend to feel threatened by Israel so it's the second most popular option. #firstworldproblems

Lol

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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:55 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:Corrupt Government Officials, continued 'free' trade with China, and a subverted corporate apparatus.

Sadly, this.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:04 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Many of them, yes.

How many? The criminals who stormed the Capitol cannot represent all Trump supporters and ex-Trump supporters.


When over half of registered Republican Party voters claim they supported the attempted coup, I think they very well do.
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Postby Torisakia » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:37 pm

America itself is its biggest threat.
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Postby Radiatia » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:35 pm

The biggest threat is themselves and their own stupidity. Second biggest threat is China.

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Postby Molither » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:21 am

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:50 am

"Alternative facts".
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Postby Reclaimed Australia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:56 am

I am. 8)

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Postby Sundiata » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:02 am

How the poor are so mistreated.
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