Yeah that exact example spurred this discussion further up in the quote chain.
I don't see how it's illegal for the federal government to... uh... incentivize the states to change their election laws.
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by Valrifell » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:04 am
by Arisyan » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:04 am
Valrifell wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Ironically, it's the Voting Rights Act that makes Gerrymandering required in some states, since the "affected" states are required to guarantee representation for Black voters, as we see in...well, Louisiana.
Maybe proportioning state delegations based on the popular vote and doing away with districts altogether would be a fun solution. Are there any terrible downsides to that?
by Page » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:05 am
by Arisyan » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:06 am
by Page » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:07 am
Arisyan wrote:you know what im also baffled at? That this thread hasn't even remotely experienced a thread jack lately.
by Valrifell » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:08 am
Arisyan wrote:you know what im also baffled at? That this thread hasn't even remotely experienced a thread jack lately.
by Kowani » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:10 am
by No State Here » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:10 am
Valrifell wrote:Arisyan wrote:you know what im also baffled at? That this thread hasn't even remotely experienced a thread jack lately.
It's difficult to threadjack a thread with as broad a scope as "American politics"
We can talk about Donald Trump, trains, gerrymandering, and a former member of Congress who ran for president that one time, and all are technically on topic.
by The Reformed American Republic » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:15 am
Kowani wrote:Wait, are we pretending Tulsi is anti-war again?
Oh, dear.
by Omniabstracta » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:16 am
by Page » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:19 am
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:22 am
Valrifell wrote:Shrillland wrote:
Ironically, it's the Voting Rights Act that makes Gerrymandering required in some states, since the "affected" states are required to guarantee representation for Black voters, as we see in...well, Louisiana.
Maybe proportioning state delegations based on the popular vote and doing away with districts altogether would be a fun solution. Are there any terrible downsides to that?
by Shrillland » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:25 am
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:30 am
by Kowani » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:32 am
by The Black Forrest » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:35 am
by Page » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:41 am
Kowani wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:Unfortunately one side being terrible doesn't make the other side good, and that is one example.
My point was that Tulsi isn’t actually anti-war
She’s just anti-war in Afghanistan
Which, to be clear, is a good position
But when you’re fine with war everywhere else, that’s not anti-war (especially since she still supports drone strikes nearly everywhere)
Other stuff people got wrong: Tulsi’s support for “Medicare for all” is closer to Pete Buttigieg’s “Medicare for all who want it” plan, leftists don’t like her views on Islam, we really don’t like her views on Modi, the constant fucking legitimizing of reactionary sources by giving them an audience (oh hey project veritas, what are you doing here?).
We don’t like the transphobia either, but that’s not the only bit of opposition to Tulsi fucking Gabbard from the left
by Page » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:43 am
The Black Forrest wrote:It’s fascinating how Republicans are now all concerned about misinformation.
Just saw CNN talking to some rep Rodney somethingorother.
He was all concerned about the misinformation over the impeachment and they should have taken a few more weeks to handle this and that Trump doesn’t need to be punished because he was punished when he was voted out.
by The Black Forrest » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:44 am
Page wrote:Kowani wrote:
My point was that Tulsi isn’t actually anti-war
She’s just anti-war in Afghanistan
Which, to be clear, is a good position
But when you’re fine with war everywhere else, that’s not anti-war (especially since she still supports drone strikes nearly everywhere)
Other stuff people got wrong: Tulsi’s support for “Medicare for all” is closer to Pete Buttigieg’s “Medicare for all who want it” plan, leftists don’t like her views on Islam, we really don’t like her views on Modi, the constant fucking legitimizing of reactionary sources by giving them an audience (oh hey project veritas, what are you doing here?).
We don’t like the transphobia either, but that’s not the only bit of opposition to Tulsi fucking Gabbard from the left
Yeah her friendship with Tucker Carlson also put me off her. Tucker Carlson is a broken clock who is right more than twice a day but he's usually wrong and in horrible ways.
And you are right about her not being truly anti-war but are there really any legit anti-war people in Congress? Even Bernie Sanders supports drone strikes.
by Thermodolia » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:44 am
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Which is why you base the system on that regional sweet spot that’s too long to drive but too short to fly. The US can have a regional high speed rail system and connect the regions through planes or trains
Commuter zones? Someone else mentioned that earlier during the whole trains conversation, it could have some unintended consequences but overall you would have to do it on a case by case basis and weigh economic expense to potential gains and efficiency advantages. I gave an example earlierRepubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The issue is what exactly defines which commuter zones are where. Atlanta is the best example, it’s pretty much a hub for everyone living South of DC and East of Texas, I often hear people in my area saying they’re "driving up to Atlanta" for whatever reason even though it’s almost 9 hours. I imagine people in Mississippi and all the way up to Virginia may do the same. With this system, Atlanta would pretty much become a mega train hub (although the airport is already basically that for air travel)
by Shrillland » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:44 am
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