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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:48 pm

Yeah, there's no saving the Republican voter base: GOP voters choose Trump. However, Trump does poorly enough with "traditional Republicans" that while it would be enough for him to win the nomination in 2024, they wouldn't be enough to carry him to victory, especially since Independents support his removal and oppose him as a nominee.

Yet, while Republicans appear united, it's the Trump Type Republicans that are very united: Just 1% of Trump Republicans — versus about one-in-four traditional Republicans — think Trump should be removed from office. The Trump Republicans are still large enough of a group to either stay and dominate primary politics or walk away if Trump is cast out, which would weaken the GOP's force posture against Democrats.

That said, I still think McConnell and others will take the short term pain over the long term gains they can make.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:48 pm

Myrensis wrote:
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Weird, I was under the impression it was the Democrats who were illegally stealing the election, I must have missed some memo..


Well see, the radical communist democrats tried to fraudulently steal the election by the disgusting act of getting more people to vote for them, while Republican patriots are doing it the proper way: By encouraging violent insurrection and the overturning of an election that is clearly illegitimate by virtue of the votes of people who aren't them being counted.


Thanks for the clarification.

Postauthoritarian America wrote:Rep. Pressley just told CNN's Don Lemon her husband, who was with her last Wednesday, contracted COVID from Republican anti-maskers in the evacuation room.

Appropos of nothing Hannity's ratings are cratering.


My prediction remains that Trump takes over OANN or Newsmax or something, hires Hannity, Ingraham and Carlson who then subsequently sue him for non-payment of salary.
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Postby ImperialRussia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:49 pm

Creating chaos isn’t a virtue it’s the state mandates it UN forces will cooperate with China and the democratic socialist party now not patriotism that stand against it that’s is creating terror. The state for sure doesn’t for sure create chaos and anarchy is also enemy of the state for sure a vaccine will sure identify your Id your credit card and money by swipe of your for maintaining control and lose ability to fear off peoples mind that is creating chaos not peace which peace maintains control of the people losing the ability your have subverting populace who will be doing anything the state mandates so peace and control can spread and not chaos will follow.

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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:50 pm

WaPo and others report Trump won't pay Giuliani's bills. How unlike the man. :rofl:
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:50 pm

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If they open their arms to Iraqis and Syrians (which have a history or warfare) then I think they will take in people from Fiji and Samoa and Tuvalu (which are more stable).

All people’s have a history of warfare. It’s just that Syria and Iraq literally have the longest history on earth.

And they haven’t exactly been welcomed with open arms.


I should say, a RECENT history of warfare.

They were warmly welcomed by leaders in Sweden and Germany (despite some reluctance by a few citizens in those nations).

Australia has a lot of open land to offer for refugees from Oceania to live. Also, Russia has plenty of space and needs to start taking in more non-FSU (former Soviet Union) immigrants. They have not taken their fair share unlike much of western Europe (Hungary was attacked for this same issue so why not attack Russia as well). I am sure these countries will be more than happy to take a few million refugees because it has been so good for Germany and Sweden (and the USA) that I am sure it will be good for Russia and Australia as well to have a massive population influx of poor refugees.
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Postby Eahland » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:50 pm

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Okay. Our champion has his sword ready:
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Postby Adamede » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:51 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Adamede wrote:All people’s have a history of warfare. It’s just that Syria and Iraq literally have the longest history on earth.

And they haven’t exactly been welcomed with open arms.


I should say, a RECENT history of warfare.

They were warmly welcomed by leaders in Sweden and Germany (despite some reluctance by a few citizens in those nations).

Australia has a lot of open land to offer for refugees from Oceania to live. Also, Russia has plenty of space and needs to start taking in more non-FSU (former Soviet Union) immigrants. They have not taken their fair share unlike much of western Europe (Hungary was attacked for this same issue so why not attack Russia as well). I am sure these countries will be more than happy to take a few million refugees because it has been so good for Germany and Sweden (and the USA) that I am sure it will be good for Russia and Australia as well to have a massive population influx of poor refugees.

You haven’t at all bee following European politics have you?

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Postby ImperialRussia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:51 pm

Trumps impeachment will definitely support China’s cause for destroying its resistance form what the president supported that the us will deal with keeping Economic ties with china

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Postby Comerciante » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:52 pm

ImperialRussia wrote:Creating chaos isn’t a virtue it’s the state mandates it UN forces will cooperate with China and the democratic socialist party now not patriotism that stand against it that’s is creating terror. The state for sure doesn’t for sure create chaos and anarchy is also enemy of the state for sure a vaccine will sure identify your Id your credit card and money by swipe of your for maintaining control and lose ability to fear off peoples mind that is creating chaos not peace which peace maintains control of the people losing the ability your have subverting populace who will be doing anything the state mandates so peace and control can spread and not chaos will follow.

Alright, I give, I failed Chinese in High School anyway.

It had too many words and stuff.
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Postby ImperialRussia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:53 pm

Eahland wrote:
Kowani wrote:(Image)

Okay. Our champion has his sword ready:
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Kowani your image is blocked for reasons I clicked it’s blocked

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Postby ImperialRussia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:54 pm

When you remove fear you control you control the state and the population

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:

I’m interested to see where Biden takes the Space Force, because I feel it’s genuinely important to have a branch of the military dedicated to not only national security in space, but also to conduct excursions and missions for the advancement of the country. Space Force was one of the few Trump actions that I genuinely liked, and Neil Degrasse Tyson seems to agree


There should be no govt. funding for space exploration until the health care crisis is fixed and infrastructure is improved. The US can't even afford to fix people's broken limbs on Earth or repair bridges, but they want to play war games in space?
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 pm

ImperialRussia wrote:When you remove fear you control you control the state and the population


Quite the opposite, and I speak from the experience of living in HK.
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Postby Nejii » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:59 pm

ImperialRussia wrote:When you remove fear you control you control the state and the population


我们在看着你 ...
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:59 pm

ImperialRussia wrote:When you remove fear you control you control the state and the population


When you encapsulate pecans you reject you reject the penguins and the biome

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"The violence of American law enforcement degrades the lives of countless people, especially poor Black people, through its peculiar appetite for their death." | "There are but two parties now: traitors and patriots. And I want hereafter to be ranked with the latter and, I trust, the stronger party." -- Ulysses S. Grant, 1861 | "You don't get mulligans in insurrection." | "Today's Republican Party is America's and the world's largest white supremacist organization." | "I didn't vote to overturn an election, and I will not be lectured by people who did about partisanship." -- Rep. Gerry Connolly |"Republicans...have transformed...to a fascist party engaged in a takeover of the United States of America."

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Postby ImperialRussia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:59 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I’m interested to see where Biden takes the Space Force, because I feel it’s genuinely important to have a branch of the military dedicated to not only national security in space, but also to conduct excursions and missions for the advancement of the country. Space Force was one of the few Trump actions that I genuinely liked, and Neil Degrasse Tyson seems to agree


There should be no govt. funding for space exploration until the health care crisis is fixed and infrastructure is improved. The US can't even afford to fix people's broken limbs on Earth or repair bridges, but they want to play war games in space?

This will benefit Chinese satellite Surveillance

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:59 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I’m interested to see where Biden takes the Space Force, because I feel it’s genuinely important to have a branch of the military dedicated to not only national security in space, but also to conduct excursions and missions for the advancement of the country. Space Force was one of the few Trump actions that I genuinely liked, and Neil Degrasse Tyson seems to agree


There should be no govt. funding for space exploration until the health care crisis is fixed and infrastructure is improved. The US can't even afford to fix people's broken limbs on Earth or repair bridges, but they want to play war games in space?

Space exploration can improve life on Earth. Many medical studies conducted in zero G yield replicable results that have been used to develop cures and study deadly diseases
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Postby ImperialRussia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:01 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
There should be no govt. funding for space exploration until the health care crisis is fixed and infrastructure is improved. The US can't even afford to fix people's broken limbs on Earth or repair bridges, but they want to play war games in space?

Space exploration can improve life on Earth. Many medical studies conducted in zero G yield replicable results that have been used to develop cures and study deadly diseases

This will remove the funding of the Cold War what going on with china

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Postby Adamede » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:01 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I’m interested to see where Biden takes the Space Force, because I feel it’s genuinely important to have a branch of the military dedicated to not only national security in space, but also to conduct excursions and missions for the advancement of the country. Space Force was one of the few Trump actions that I genuinely liked, and Neil Degrasse Tyson seems to agree


There should be no govt. funding for space exploration until the health care crisis is fixed and infrastructure is improved. The US can't even afford to fix people's broken limbs on Earth or repair bridges, but they want to play war games in space?

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but a large part of our infrastructure is in low earth orbit.

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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:01 pm

Nejii wrote:
ImperialRussia wrote:When you remove fear you control you control the state and the population


我们在看着你 ...


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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:02 pm

ImperialRussia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
There should be no govt. funding for space exploration until the health care crisis is fixed and infrastructure is improved. The US can't even afford to fix people's broken limbs on Earth or repair bridges, but they want to play war games in space?

This will benefit Chinese satellite Surveillance


This will uproot Bangladeshi horsecart Pinball

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"The violence of American law enforcement degrades the lives of countless people, especially poor Black people, through its peculiar appetite for their death." | "There are but two parties now: traitors and patriots. And I want hereafter to be ranked with the latter and, I trust, the stronger party." -- Ulysses S. Grant, 1861 | "You don't get mulligans in insurrection." | "Today's Republican Party is America's and the world's largest white supremacist organization." | "I didn't vote to overturn an election, and I will not be lectured by people who did about partisanship." -- Rep. Gerry Connolly |"Republicans...have transformed...to a fascist party engaged in a takeover of the United States of America."

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Postby Eahland » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:03 pm

ImperialRussia wrote:
Eahland wrote:Okay. Our champion has his sword ready:
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Kowani your image is blocked for reasons I clicked it’s blocked

It's a screenshot of text, which says:
Thankfully, Rudy has an answer for anyone who thought he was calling for violence when he explicitly called for violence: blame "Game of Thrones."
"I was referencing the kind of trial that took place for Tyrion in that very famous documentary about fictitious medieval England," Giuliani told Samuels. "When Tyrion, who is a very small man, is accused of murder. He didn't commit murder, he can't defend himself, and he hires a champion to defend him."



I am fascinated by this notion that Giuliani thinks that Game of Thrones is a documentary. Maybe that explains the regime's obsession with building a useless wall. Someone should tell them they're doing it on the wrong border, though.
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Postby Diahon » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:03 pm

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ah yes, the famous donald dwarf, i take it

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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:04 pm

ImperialRussia wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Space exploration can improve life on Earth. Many medical studies conducted in zero G yield replicable results that have been used to develop cures and study deadly diseases

This will remove the funding of the Cold War what going on with china


This will install the traffic of the Sepoy Rebellion where eating on with tacos

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"The violence of American law enforcement degrades the lives of countless people, especially poor Black people, through its peculiar appetite for their death." | "There are but two parties now: traitors and patriots. And I want hereafter to be ranked with the latter and, I trust, the stronger party." -- Ulysses S. Grant, 1861 | "You don't get mulligans in insurrection." | "Today's Republican Party is America's and the world's largest white supremacist organization." | "I didn't vote to overturn an election, and I will not be lectured by people who did about partisanship." -- Rep. Gerry Connolly |"Republicans...have transformed...to a fascist party engaged in a takeover of the United States of America."

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:05 pm

I saw the video of Trump condemning the violence.

He looks angry somehow. Almost as if done one forced him to make the video or something.

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