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Postby Bombadil » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:50 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh no

I guess the rest of the MIC isn’t that far behind


MIC? But I do feel as more businesses close up political donations, Republicans will become more supportive of convicting though that's honestly ashamed it takes that to get that support.


I'm curious as to gun manufacturers..
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:51 pm


I’m interested to see where Biden takes the Space Force, because I feel it’s genuinely important to have a branch of the military dedicated to not only national security in space, but also to conduct excursions and missions for the advancement of the country. Space Force was one of the few Trump actions that I genuinely liked, and Neil Degrasse Tyson seems to agree
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Postby Nejii » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:52 pm

Two -- potentially three? -- impeachments in roughly two years? Civil unrest? Misinformation everywhere? Racial and social tensions? I'm telling you, powder keg...
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:52 pm

Zurkerx wrote:


Kind of tough to say how fully accurate this will be but his post-Presidency life is about to become hell, especially since he doesn't have the protections of the Presidency anymore. He'll have to worry about the millions he has to pay off and businesses losing revenue/business but worse, the pending lawsuits and possible prosecution he'll face, as well as being barred possibly from running for office.


He will do well. He can sell books, get paid $50,000 per speech, and he will get paid to have lunches with people (like Warren Buffett does-only Trump will likely keep most of the money).

Don't worry about Trump going to the poor house. He will still be wealthier than likely 99.9% of people on this website.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:52 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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MIC? But I do feel as more businesses close up political donations, Republicans will become more supportive of convicting though that's honestly ashamed it takes that to get that support.

The Military Industrial Complex


Ah, got you though I'm pretty sure his relationship with them was never the warmest.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:52 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
MIC? But I do feel as more businesses close up political donations, Republicans will become more supportive of convicting though that's honestly ashamed it takes that to get that support.


I'm curious as to gun manufacturers..


Speaking professionally for a moment the industry will still back the GOP, albeit I can assure you from chat I'm hearing it's becoming more and more reluctantly amongst a lot of FFL holders, because it's genuinely suicidal not to. A lot of us would jump ship if the Dems stopped being dumb but it's a culture war issue and that's not gonna happen.
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Postby Comerciante » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:53 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:

I’m interested to see where Biden takes the Space Force, because I feel it’s genuinely important to have a branch of the military dedicated to not only national security in space, but also to conduct excursions and missions for the advancement of the country. Space Force was one of the few Trump actions that I genuinely liked, and Neil Degrasse Tyson seems to agree

Also say it with me:

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:54 pm

Comerciante wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I’m interested to see where Biden takes the Space Force, because I feel it’s genuinely important to have a branch of the military dedicated to not only national security in space, but also to conduct excursions and missions for the advancement of the country. Space Force was one of the few Trump actions that I genuinely liked, and Neil Degrasse Tyson seems to agree

Also say it with me:

CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE


Pence is a Baptist, or some kind of Protestant like that.

They don't build Cathedrals. They build incredibly bland, mostly white walled, places of worship. Sometimes they just buy spaces in malls.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:54 pm

Nejii wrote:Two -- potentially three? -- impeachments in roughly two years? Civil unrest? Misinformation everywhere? Racial and social tensions? I'm telling you, powder keg...

There will come a time in the near future when a majority of the American population will be tired of this hyper partisan bickering tearing the country apart, imo that will be the best time if ever for a truly third positionist movement to take hold, although in America, the only forms of third positionism with a chance of succeeding and improving the country are Huey Long’s style of politics
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Postby Picairn » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:55 pm

Comerciante wrote:Also say it with me:

CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE CATHEDRALS IN SPACE

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:55 pm

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That only proves that it wasn't just full of poor people. Many of the people there drove from places nearby like Virginia and based on how they look, I doubt they were rich.

Rather classist. You think they check your credit score before someone is able to buy flannel? Maybe you missed the message that has had some anti-intellectualism hidden in it but is none the less true, trades workers actually make pretty good money and often end up business owners as well. Not to mention that not everyone dresses the way they dress for work the same way the dress for an insurrection. I can say that most of them looked like most of the well off assholes that I see at every cigar lounge and the jobs we're hearing about these guy's losing are not 'working poor' jobs. Those lifted trucks you see flying those giant flags aren't exactly cheap. Until either of us get an actual demographic survey of the people involved we're just guessing but to look at their beards and flannel and decide 'they're poor' is the kind of attitude that has discouraged people from trade work when it can be very lucrative.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:56 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Nejii wrote:Two -- potentially three? -- impeachments in roughly two years? Civil unrest? Misinformation everywhere? Racial and social tensions? I'm telling you, powder keg...

There will come a time in the near future when a majority of the American population will be tired of this hyper partisan bickering tearing the country apart, imo that will be the best time if ever for a truly third positionist movement to take hold, although in America, the only forms of third positionism with a chance of succeeding and improving the country are Huey Long’s style of politics

There won’t be a third positionist wave, just a military coup. The military is pretty much the only institution left that still commands significant social trust, eventually they’ll feel they have no choice but to act.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:56 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Nejii wrote:Two -- potentially three? -- impeachments in roughly two years? Civil unrest? Misinformation everywhere? Racial and social tensions? I'm telling you, powder keg...

There will come a time in the near future when a majority of the American population will be tired of this hyper partisan bickering tearing the country apart, imo that will be the best time if ever for a truly third positionist movement to take hold, although in America, the only forms of third positionism with a chance of succeeding and improving the country are Huey Long’s style of politics

Wasn’t Huey Long more authoritarian than FDR, to the point where FDR and even conservative Republicans compared him to Mussolini?
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:56 pm

Picairn wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:If the climate gets warmer, we can adapt. Alaska real estate will go up while Floridians will need to move. Remember that it won't happen in a day. 2012 is just a movie and a HUGE exaggeration. Likely, some nations will offer refuge to islanders from island nations about to sink.

How can Floridians move? Sell their houses and just pack up and leave?

*angry grunts and axing the wall noises* There's just a small problem:

SELL THEIR HOUSES TO WHO, FREIHEIT? FUCKING AQUAMAN?


Lakeland and Orlando homeowners will happily rake in money as their homes will have quick beach access and increase in value. People that live near the coast are asking for trouble. Hurricanes and typhoons are warnings and nobody should want to live within 3 miles of the coast. Most people will be dead by the time all the icebergs melt and half of Florida is gone. You are warned now, don't buy homes near the beach. Also, don't live on a cliff and then cry when erosion makes your house fall down. Yes, the first time that happened was sad. However, people keep building homes in bad areas and expecting they will be lucky.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:56 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I'm curious as to gun manufacturers..


Speaking professionally for a moment the industry will still back the GOP, albeit I can assure you from chat I'm hearing it's becoming more and more reluctantly amongst a lot of FFL holders, because it's genuinely suicidal not to. A lot of us would jump ship if the Dems stopped being dumb but it's a culture war issue and that's not gonna happen.

Some Democrats like the idea of disarming law abiders as well and seem hostile to self defense.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:57 pm


You’re laughing, but what about when Zombie Washington announces his 2024 run, with his main plank being the restoration of slavery?
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:58 pm



Can you actually impeach a post-presidency dead person?

Can we get a lawyer on that?
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:59 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:If the climate gets warmer, we can adapt. Alaska real estate will go up while Floridians will need to move. Remember that it won't happen in a day. 2012 is just a movie and a HUGE exaggeration. Likely, some nations will offer refuge to islanders from island nations about to sink.

Yes because nations are really going to have open arms to refugees


If they open their arms to Iraqis and Syrians (which have a history or warfare) then I think they will take in people from Fiji and Samoa and Tuvalu (which are more stable).
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:59 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I'm curious as to gun manufacturers..


Speaking professionally for a moment the industry will still back the GOP, albeit I can assure you from chat I'm hearing it's becoming more and more reluctantly amongst a lot of FFL holders, because it's genuinely suicidal not to. A lot of us would jump ship if the Dems stopped being dumb but it's a culture war issue and that's not gonna happen.

If they prefer to avoid financial suicide over actual societal suicide, I suppose that’s their prerogative. We all have our weird preferences on how to exit the stage gracefully.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:59 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What a fucking tool lol

You’re laughing, but what about when Zombie Washington announces his 2024 run, with his main plank being the restoration of slavery?


For what it's worth, Washington did note that if there were a north-south division on the issue of Slavery, he'd side with the North. Which of course is more than a lot of Virginians did when that divide did end up happening.
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Hhhhhh...sure, alright. If that's what it takes for a living breathing president who encouraged an attack on the legislature and the attempted murder of his Vice President, if we have an awkward reckoning with our problematic history, sure. If that will make Lindsey happy, sure. Okay.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:00 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:There will come a time in the near future when a majority of the American population will be tired of this hyper partisan bickering tearing the country apart, imo that will be the best time if ever for a truly third positionist movement to take hold, although in America, the only forms of third positionism with a chance of succeeding and improving the country are Huey Long’s style of politics

Wasn’t Huey Long more authoritarian than FDR, to the point where FDR and even conservative Republicans compared him to Mussolini?

He was also the only governor during the Great Depression era to actually improve the lives of his constituents directly through his policies, by funding LSU, enacting sweeping social reforms that left his legacy as a champion of the poor, and was supported by both the right and the left which was rare at the time

He also pissed off both the KKK and the various socialist movements at the time, which is a double win
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