Jakker wrote:It should not be controversial for raiding to exist in the game.
Jakker wrote:Raiders should not be dismissed from being recognized for their impact in the game just because they are raiders.
I agree, and I've said nothing in opposition to this.
Jakker wrote:generalizing this notion to all those who identify as such is harmful.
I agree. I'm not doing that here, and anyone (including you) that thinks I am is mistaken.
Jakker wrote:I disagree with the notion that anyone who identifies as a raider should not be allowed in TSP or that would be benefitical to TSP.
Well, that's not what I would propose, actually. I'd set the minimum at "Any raider or raider organization that has shown hostility towards TSP is not allowed in TSP".
Non-raiders aren't the topic here, though. That's why I'm focusing on raider impact on regional security. I'm not saying raiders are exclusively the only problem with keeping a region secure, and I'm starting to get the feeling you're intentionally misinterpreting me, Jakker.Jakker wrote:I also think it is important to note that there have been and will continue to be non-raiders whose presence actually do make regions less secure including TSP so creating this narrative that raiders are the problem is narrow.
Jakker wrote:I also disagree with your argument of the "raider mindset." Plenty of raiders are not looking to make a region like TSP more raider or easier to raid. I cannot speak for everyone because I don't know everyone, but I can speak for a lot of people. Rather, many raiders are simply trying to reduce anti-raider views.
This is actually a perfect example of the "raider mindset" thing. Reducing anti-raider views isn't raiding, is it? It's PR. They're in a PR mindset, setting aside raiding to do PR. There's nothing wrong with that. What strikes me is the implication by you that most raiders aren't focused on raiding. Why are those people called raiders then? What qualifies as a raider now?
Sandaoguo wrote:This is mostly right-- raiding is not by nature a threat to TSP's sovereignty and security, in my opinion.
It's a weird day when I take a harsher defender stance on something than Glen-Rhodes, but when it comes to TSP's security, raiding is by nature a threat as long as TSP is the Defender GCR of NS.