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Diahon
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Postby Diahon » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:07 pm

Nakena wrote:
Diahon wrote:
or 2008

i would love to be basking in the warm afterglow of an obama presidency again, coupled with a republican electoral and reputational collapse, and i'm sure as fuck the gop at this point does too

at the very least, my health would still be golden, and so would those of hundreds of thousands


How would it make your health different?

Like how exactly is the reign of President Trump affecting your health personally negatively?


between mental health issues i enjoyed between 2016 and 2017 and my most recent circulatory collapse after election night 2020, when it seemed trump would win a second term, let's say i've suffered my fair share due to these relentless authoritarians

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:08 pm

Diahon wrote:so how's the trial-by-damnatio-memoriae going over there, americans? must be peculiarly cleansing

Are you comparing people being banned from twitter to people being completely erased from the historical record by order of the state
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:09 pm

Diahon wrote:just think of the hundreds of thousands who wouldn't have been dead of this fucking pandemic due to trump basically giving up

how many of them used to log on to ns to do whatever, living out their lives online and off, before those twin catastrophes fucked one another? how many would've been deranged by trump's lies and so forgot or forbade themselves from protecting their own, infected others, and either died or now live crippled lives?

ah death, so spiritually taxing


A democratic presidency wouldn’t have done better with COVID either.
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Postby Omniabstracta » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:11 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Diahon wrote:just think of the hundreds of thousands who wouldn't have been dead of this fucking pandemic due to trump basically giving up

how many of them used to log on to ns to do whatever, living out their lives online and off, before those twin catastrophes fucked one another? how many would've been deranged by trump's lies and so forgot or forbade themselves from protecting their own, infected others, and either died or now live crippled lives?

ah death, so spiritually taxing


A democratic presidency wouldn’t have done better with COVID either.

It, at the very least, wouldn’t have been actively harmful to the response.
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Diahon
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Postby Diahon » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:11 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Diahon wrote:so how's the trial-by-damnatio-memoriae going over there, americans? must be peculiarly cleansing

Are you comparing people being banned from twitter to people being completely erased from the historical record by order of the state


i'm comparing donald john trump banned from most forms of social media and deprived further slush funding and other forms of monetary assistance and bragging rights by order of multinational corporations and other forms of american associations to that, yes

it's not a hundred percent perfect fit, but it's a fit
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Postby Corrian » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:14 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Diahon wrote:just think of the hundreds of thousands who wouldn't have been dead of this fucking pandemic due to trump basically giving up

how many of them used to log on to ns to do whatever, living out their lives online and off, before those twin catastrophes fucked one another? how many would've been deranged by trump's lies and so forgot or forbade themselves from protecting their own, infected others, and either died or now live crippled lives?

ah death, so spiritually taxing


A democratic presidency wouldn’t have done better with COVID either.

Yes they would have.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:15 pm

Omniabstracta wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
A democratic presidency wouldn’t have done better with COVID either.

It, at the very least, wouldn’t have been actively harmful to the response.


True.
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Postby Diahon » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:16 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Diahon wrote:just think of the hundreds of thousands who wouldn't have been dead of this fucking pandemic due to trump basically giving up

how many of them used to log on to ns to do whatever, living out their lives online and off, before those twin catastrophes fucked one another? how many would've been deranged by trump's lies and so forgot or forbade themselves from protecting their own, infected others, and either died or now live crippled lives?

ah death, so spiritually taxing


A democratic presidency wouldn’t have done better with COVID either.


i positively doubt that would've been the case

at the very least, the mentality that led to community spread of this pandemic within the us would be absent without trump actively egging on his fanatics

so also would the federal response to this pandemic have mirrored the usual response to pandemics of this sort, had hillary or pretty much almost every other 2016 presidential candidate not named trump been president, especially as there was a comprehensive plan and structure put in place before trump took office that he, kushner, and all the rest of them... just gutted down, the motherfuckers, in favor of vastly unequal state-by-state responses
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:17 pm

Corrian wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
A democratic presidency wouldn’t have done better with COVID either.

Yes they would have.


A mundane Clinton presidency without Trump-era politicking would have worked better. An America with neither the social left nor the social right staying at home on the other hand..
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:22 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Corrian wrote:Yes they would have.


A mundane Clinton presidency without Trump-era politicking would have worked better. An America with neither the social left nor the social right staying at home on the other hand..

Not at all, Clinton was yet another establishment straight-talker who would’ve started more wars
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Postby Diahon » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:26 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
A mundane Clinton presidency without Trump-era politicking would have worked better. An America with neither the social left nor the social right staying at home on the other hand..

Not at all, Clinton was yet another establishment straight-talker who would’ve started more wars


as against a united states whose internal shared reality, never mind multitudinous other issues dependent on that, is in question, whom its allies fear or revile and will anyway hesitate to engage in healthy diplomatic relations thenceforth, whose world presence is that of rogue states like north korea, thanks to years of hostility against immigrants and finally its response to the pandemic...

... that's the united states you still want, at this point in time?

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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:27 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
A mundane Clinton presidency without Trump-era politicking would have worked better. An America with neither the social left nor the social right staying at home on the other hand..

Not at all, Clinton was yet another establishment straight-talker who would’ve started more wars


I’m talking about the domestic situation.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:31 pm

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He spent over 260 days golfing, that's about 2/3 of a year just golfing. Obama did less than 100.

Frankly it would've been better if he spent his entire term golfing.


He's terrible at golf, apparently. But, he could have done a lot less harm if we kept him distracted for 4 years.


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Postby Bombadil » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:32 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Corrian wrote:Yes they would have.


A mundane Clinton presidency without Trump-era politicking would have worked better. An America with neither the social left nor the social right staying at home on the other hand..


I have always been fine with Clinton losing, initially it was simply out of avoiding the tedium of constant attacks and misogyny, but now it's because the results of Trumpism have been fully laid bare, which wouldn't have been the case if he was a loser on Twitter.
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Postby Diahon » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:32 pm

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Not at all, Clinton was yet another establishment straight-talker who would’ve started more wars


I’m talking about the domestic situation.


ironically enough, the fuckedup domestic situation has fed into the international situation these past few years

at the very least, a future admin serious with scaling back american military presence will have to reckon with a rising and confident china, its antidemocratic propaganda bolstered by years of trump

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:35 pm

Candidate Trump > President Trump

Even though 2000s Trump beats them both
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Postby Diahon » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:37 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Candidate Trump > President Trump

Even though 2000s Trump beats them both


any conscientious adherent to democracy is far better than any version of trump you care to dredge up, simply because they care in ways that dipshit does fucking not

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Postby Rusozak » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:38 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Candidate Trump > President Trump

Even though 2000s Trump beats them both


I prefer relatively irrelevant and forgettable 1990s movie cameo Trump.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:38 pm

ha ha approveal line go down

Also reading the latest report from morning consultant was the way I found out Im a zoomer (97 bab)

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:40 pm

Diahon wrote:
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America wasn't doing so great back then but holy shit do I wanna go back to 2010.


or 2008

i would love to be basking in the warm afterglow of an obama presidency again, coupled with a republican electoral and reputational collapse, and i'm sure as fuck the gop at this point does too

at the very least, my health would still be golden, and so would those of hundreds of thousands


Please don't remind me of the disappointment that was Barack Obama.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:40 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:ha ha approveal line go down

Also reading the latest report from morning consultant was the way I found out Im a zoomer (97 bab)


You're my age?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:41 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Diahon wrote:
or 2008

i would love to be basking in the warm afterglow of an obama presidency again, coupled with a republican electoral and reputational collapse, and i'm sure as fuck the gop at this point does too

at the very least, my health would still be golden, and so would those of hundreds of thousands


Please don't remind me of the disappointment that was Barack Obama.


He honestly was good. Not great or anything and def had problems. But he was overall good at runing the nation.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:42 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:ha ha approveal line go down

Also reading the latest report from morning consultant was the way I found out Im a zoomer (97 bab)


You're my age?


Ye

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:42 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
You're my age?


Ye


Considering that you just found out you're a zoomer and not a millennial, I can see you're also In your lower 20s which is shocking since I always assumed you were like 30.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:43 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Please don't remind me of the disappointment that was Barack Obama.


He honestly was good. Not great or anything and def had problems. But he was overall good at runing the nation.


Like when his FBI was intimidating occupiers? Or when he turned Libya into a shithole?

Obama wasn't the mess that Trump has been for four years, but he wasnt much better than the previous two presidents.
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